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- Curtis
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I understand Brown isn’t going to win too many popularity contests but the crux of what he’s saying is true. If I am a racing secretary and the racing association allocates 1M with the instructions to write a turf stake for fillies and mares and get it G1 status as soon as possible, I’m writing it at 9f. I’m a minimalist. If I were King of the Breeder’s Cup, I’d eliminate the F&M Turf and Sprint. Most likely the Dirt Mile. There are probably other areas of fat to trim, but that means I’d have to look them up. The best U.S. based female turf marathoner has entered the BC Turf even when the F&M version has been 11f. Without a fixed distance, the race isn’t necessary and there is no proper fixed distance for it.
- Mylute
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I do tend to agree that there is a noticeable lack of G1 turf races for females at the mile or shorter distance, but I suppose there's bigger problems to fix.
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I would not be shocked to find out that the number of prominent owners using horse racing as a tax write-off outnumbers those who are in the game trying to make a profit.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Designating G1 races isn’t the answer. The reason is there aren’t enough suitable horses. A race track can do things—namely purse money—to attract G1 types. When races were first graded, neither the KY Oaks or the Whitney were G1’s. Hard to fathom now. As CD promoted the Oaks outside of KY and Saratoga became a meet to target for horses other than the ages of 2&3, the fields got better and better and they were elevated. When races began being graded Del Mar had no G1’s and while many may argue it doesn’t in reality have any now, there was a peak period when the racing at Del Mar and Saratoga were very comparable.
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Listening to Len Green’s annual appearance on Steve Byk’s show during tax season definitely points to that. It’s wild what a good accountant can dig out and write off.
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- HB1994
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One of the all-time greats is calling it a day.
Sir Michael Stoute to stop training at the end of the year
In a career spanning five decades, Stoute, 78, has trained numerous champions, including the peerless Shergar, one of six Derby winners, as well as the likes of Shareef Dancer, Zilzal and Harbinger.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain ... HR1M0iG4x/
Sir Michael Stoute to stop training at the end of the year
In a career spanning five decades, Stoute, 78, has trained numerous champions, including the peerless Shergar, one of six Derby winners, as well as the likes of Shareef Dancer, Zilzal and Harbinger.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain ... HR1M0iG4x/
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Oh wow. Truly the end of an era.
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Back week for jockeys.
Charlie Oliveros was injured in a bad wreck at mountaineer, needed to have surgery.
Cory Orm injured yesterday in a bad wreck at Fanduel. Had surgery this morning.
Joseph Romero had a bad wreck at Indy yesterday - no updates on him or horse. Prayers to all to be safe.
Charlie Oliveros was injured in a bad wreck at mountaineer, needed to have surgery.
Cory Orm injured yesterday in a bad wreck at Fanduel. Had surgery this morning.
Joseph Romero had a bad wreck at Indy yesterday - no updates on him or horse. Prayers to all to be safe.
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We've all heard the stories about betting the "Other Baffert" when the opportunity presents itself, a profitable move indeed.
But now I have a question......
I've never read anything about betting the "Other Mark Casse"
Please hurry, I need to know before the 5th and 9th races at Woodbine on Saturday,
TIA.
But now I have a question......
I've never read anything about betting the "Other Mark Casse"
Please hurry, I need to know before the 5th and 9th races at Woodbine on Saturday,
TIA.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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I think “The Other ___________” is a pretty sound move everywhere, unless it isn’t. That’s my rule.stark wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:49 am We've all heard the stories about betting the "Other Baffert" when the opportunity presents itself, a profitable move indeed.
But now I have a question......
I've never read anything about betting the "Other Mark Casse"
Please hurry, I need to know before the 5th and 9th races at Woodbine on Saturday,
TIA.
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The other other other other other Mark Casse.stark wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:49 am We've all heard the stories about betting the "Other Baffert" when the opportunity presents itself, a profitable move indeed.
But now I have a question......
I've never read anything about betting the "Other Mark Casse"
Please hurry, I need to know before the 5th and 9th races at Woodbine on Saturday,
TIA.
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Ain't never seen anything like it, maybe Aidan O'Brien?Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:04 pmThe other other other other other Mark Casse.stark wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:49 am We've all heard the stories about betting the "Other Baffert" when the opportunity presents itself, a profitable move indeed.
But now I have a question......
I've never read anything about betting the "Other Mark Casse"
Please hurry, I need to know before the 5th and 9th races at Woodbine on Saturday,
TIA.
As for Casse on Saturday, in the 5th race, 13 are entered and he has 8 of 'em. Oddly, he doesn't have the first or second betting favorite on the morning line.
Then in the 9th, 14 are entered and he has 7 of them. 10/1 on the morning line is his shortest price!
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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So is there an exchange rate in effect betting at Woodbine? Sounds like a good .10 Super box.stark wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 1:18 pmAin't never seen anything like it, maybe Aidan O'Brien?Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:04 pmThe other other other other other Mark Casse.stark wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:49 am We've all heard the stories about betting the "Other Baffert" when the opportunity presents itself, a profitable move indeed.
But now I have a question......
I've never read anything about betting the "Other Mark Casse"
Please hurry, I need to know before the 5th and 9th races at Woodbine on Saturday,
TIA.
As for Casse on Saturday, in the 5th race, 13 are entered and he has 8 of 'em. Oddly, he doesn't have the first or second betting favorite on the morning line.
Then in the 9th, 14 are entered and he has 7 of them. 10/1 on the morning line is his shortest price!