Foals of 2014

[Ridan_Remembered]

f. Arch x Proud Pearl (1/31) - dam is full to Proud Spell

Baby looks almost the spitting image of mom in that photo.

[Ridan_Remembered]

c. Old Topper x Big City Danse (2/4)

I worked with his mothers dam and full sister.. Loved both mares... what a cutie pie

Baby is so fuzzy and adorable.

[second_glance]

On Feb. 9, Mother Russia had a Union Rags colt. I think that was reported here. Colt weighed 160 lbs! And they must have had to go to the clinic because Romans Racing posted some "welcome home" photos today of the two getting off a van.

He is huge!

[mimi6920]

This is likely a dumb question so please don't flame me. In light of what happened to Careless Jewel, Rachel, and many other mares that have "too large" foals, why can't they do a c-section? Horses have abdominal surgery for colic, and sure it is never risk-free, but I would think it would be lower risk than trying to help a mare naturally deliver a foal that is too large.

[ChampionCurlin]

f. Pioneerof the Nile x Authenicat (1/29)

[ChampionCurlin]

f. Papa Clem x Unbridled Brew (2/10)

[wannabeagroom]

I LOVE THE BABY PICTURES!

[ChampionCurlin]

c. Tapit x Cat Myth - dam is full to Johannesburg

[TBird]

This is likely a dumb question so please don't flame me. In light of what happened to Careless Jewel, Rachel, and many other mares that have "too large" foals, why can't they do a c-section? Horses have abdominal surgery for colic, and sure it is never risk-free, but I would think it would be lower risk than trying to help a mare naturally deliver a foal that is too large.

Abdominal surgery is always very risky for a horse. Sure it's done for colic--but in that case the alternative is death. So no one really thinks of it as a profilactic option for a pregnant mare. Plus, there's the possibility that the surgery can impact the viability of future pregnancies, and the ability of the mare to raise that foal.

Until a mare actually has a problem delivering a foal, it's not known (ahead of time) how difficult it will be for her. A large foal, positioned correctly, may slide right out. A smaller foal that's contracted or whose limbs are facing the wrong way can cause bigger problems. So the size of the foal isn't the main determining factor in whether or not a mare will have a difficult delivery.

[ChampionCurlin]

c. Haynesfield x Quiet Bear (2/?)

Gorgeous colt.

[TapitsGal]

c. Haynesfield x Quiet Bear (2/?)

Gorgeous colt.

ooo love the chrome on that colt

[ChampionCurlin]

No pics yet and unsure of dates, but the following mares have foaled:

f. War Front x Aruna
f. Smart Strike x Broadway's Alibi
c. Arch x City to City
f. War Front x Pachattack
f. Medaglia d'Oro x Salty Strike

[tres borrachos]

This thread just keeps getting better!

[BlackCat]

This is likely a dumb question so please don't flame me. In light of what happened to Careless Jewel, Rachel, and many other mares that have "too large" foals, why can't they do a c-section? Horses have abdominal surgery for colic, and sure it is never risk-free, but I would think it would be lower risk than trying to help a mare naturally deliver a foal that is too large.

I think a lot of the trouble with delivering foals by C section is timing. Labor and delivery in mares is such a fast process, and it's very difficult to know which ones are 'at risk' until there's already a problem, and then there's only a VERY short window of time to get the foal out successfully. it's the positioning and not the size of the foal that is usually the root cause of delivery problems. if one was going to go the route of "elective" C section, it's very difficult to know exactly when the foal is ready to live outside the womb. going by breeding date is almost impossible since mares can vary gestation times by 30 days or so, and with a foal, even being born a week or so ahead of schedule can reduce his chances of survival. we have the University of Florida neonatal equine unit nearby, and the preemie foals, even by a short time, never have an easy time of it, even with the best of veterinary care. my vet has said that the birth process actually helps prepare the foal for life outside the uterus (maybe the contractions compressing on the lungs?) and that C section foals are more prone to respiratory issues.
C sections are possible, but rare. I did find an interesting article about them, and here's a link.
https://www.chronofhorse.com/article/su ... -your-mare

[amfuller]

No pics yet and unsure of dates, but the following mares have foaled:

f. War Front x Aruna
f. Smart Strike x Broadway's Alibi
c. Arch x City to City
f. War Front x Pachattack
f. Medaglia d'Oro x Salty Strike

f. War Front x Aruna (1/23)
f. Smart Strike x Broadway's Alibi (2/1)
c. Arch x City to City (1/21)
f. War Front x Pachattack (2/9)
f. Medaglia d'Oro x Salty Strike(1/24)

[ChampionCurlin]

Why thank you!

[Mintano]

This is likely a dumb question so please don't flame me. In light of what happened to Careless Jewel, Rachel, and many other mares that have "too large" foals, why can't they do a c-section? Horses have abdominal surgery for colic, and sure it is never risk-free, but I would think it would be lower risk than trying to help a mare naturally deliver a foal that is too large.

I know the numbers have improved recently but for the longest time the odds of survival from colic surgery were 50/50. Any abdominal surgery on horses is very risky unfortunately. The foal survival rate from C-sections is pretty bad, you have to time everything perfectly.

[islandgirl45]

I think a lot of the trouble with delivering foals by C section is timing. Labor and delivery in mares is such a fast process, and it's very difficult to know which ones are 'at risk' until there's already a problem, and then there's only a VERY short window of time to get the foal out successfully. it's the positioning and not the size of the foal that is usually the root cause of delivery problems. if one was going to go the route of "elective" C section, it's very difficult to know exactly when the foal is ready to live outside the womb. going by breeding date is almost impossible since mares can vary gestation times by 30 days or so, and with a foal, even being born a week or so ahead of schedule can reduce his chances of survival. we have the University of Florida neonatal equine unit nearby, and the preemie foals, even by a short time, never have an easy time of it, even with the best of veterinary care. my vet has said that the birth process actually helps prepare the foal for life outside the uterus (maybe the contractions compressing on the lungs?) and that C section foals are more prone to respiratory issues.
C sections are possible, but rare. I did find an interesting article about them, and here's a link.
https://www.chronofhorse.com/article/su ... -your-mare

I'm getting an error message for the link above. Even tried a different browser, but no luck.

• Page not found
  The requested page could not be found.

[mimi6920]

The link didn't work for me either. I was sitting on a plane one time, and I was talking to a woman who breeds/boards thoroughbreds. She was telling me about one of their mares where the foal was too large and it was stuck. They pulled it for hours. After the foal died (they had taken her to the vet by this time), she told me they wrapped chains around the dead foal and tried to pull it out that way. It still wouldn't come (she was watching all this). After a while they told her to leave because they were going to have to cut the foal into pieces to get it out. Even with what you guys have said, I still can't understand why a c-section was not done in situations like this. The way she spoke about it was that this happens from time and time, and it is never pretty. I would think a c-section would be much more humane for the mare than taking it out piece-by-piece. I am still horrified by the story, and I think of it whenever I see mares going to the clinic for giant foals.

There has to be a better way.

[second_glance]

Old Fashioned - Susquehanna River colt, Coontry Life farm