I was going to type something very similar but had to run to the store. Adding to what you said, he had a slower than average workout on September 3rd, that may have also helped in their decision. I also agree that he had zero chance in any BC race.Northport wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:47 pmHis last three races were very poor efforts, there may be no obvious injuries (that have been announced) but the horse clearly has lost his spark. If connections dont think he has a chance in the Breeder’s Cup (which I really dont think he does), I suppose why bother keeping him in training to potentially throw in another clunker of an effort on the international stage.
Stallion News
- Flanders
- Posts: 9916
- Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:01 pm
-
- Posts: 1543
- Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:16 am
Not gonna beat up on a very nice horse, he didn't "choose" to go thru The Baffert Program.Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:39 am Oh boy, a horse with 4 starts who wasn't sound enough to have a 3yr old campaign. Line up the mares!
Had he been under the patient guidance of another trainer, he probably would have had a different outcome.
And he won't be the only one 1/2 or almost lame or just escaped being lame, after a very short career with you-know-who, you know, that guy-who's- good-for-racing........., what's his name.
I wish for Corniche to produce some really nice offspring and have a delightful retirement. He deserves it.
- Mylute
- Posts: 11984
- Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:20 pm
- Location: within 30 miles of your current location and proceeding rapidly. be warned.
Just think - if Tacitus won a G1 (or two!) by disqualification he would get to be at Juddmonte instead of Taylor Made, too!
Only user to pick Rich Strike (89-1) in the 2022 Derby Pool Contest. | 2x Greatest Handicapper of All Time (2022 - 23) (2023 - 24) ✧ I kissed I'll Have Another! ✧
-
- Posts: 1349
- Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:01 pm
he was also supposed to stand at rockridge farm or quest royal north in new work if he didnt win i think the wood?
Why walk when you could ride?
- brunanas
- Posts: 3398
- Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 8:14 pm
- Location: 🇧🇷
- Diver52
- Posts: 3380
- Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:44 pm
- Location: Redlands, CA
You're absolutely right--he wouldn't have been two year old champion with "patient guidance." (BTW he's a horse, not a monastic novice. )MySaladDays wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 11:48 pmNot gonna beat up on a very nice horse, he didn't "choose" to go thru The Baffert Program.Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:39 am Oh boy, a horse with 4 starts who wasn't sound enough to have a 3yr old campaign. Line up the mares!
Had he been under the patient guidance of another trainer, he probably would have had a different outcome.
And he won't be the only one 1/2 or almost lame or just escaped being lame, after a very short career with you-know-who, you know, that guy-who's- good-for-racing........., what's his name.
I wish for Corniche to produce some really nice offspring and have a delightful retirement. He deserves it.
I ran marathons. I saw the Taj Mahal by Moonlight. I drove Highway 1 in a convertible. I petted Zenyatta.
- Mylute
- Posts: 11984
- Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:20 pm
- Location: within 30 miles of your current location and proceeding rapidly. be warned.
Storm the Stars (Sea the Stars × Love Me Only) has moved to Coolagown Stud in Ireland from France.
G2W, placed in both Epsom and Irish Derbies, grandson of Mariah's Storm.
G2W, placed in both Epsom and Irish Derbies, grandson of Mariah's Storm.
Only user to pick Rich Strike (89-1) in the 2022 Derby Pool Contest. | 2x Greatest Handicapper of All Time (2022 - 23) (2023 - 24) ✧ I kissed I'll Have Another! ✧
-
- Posts: 2838
- Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:05 pm
appeals to breeders who want big wins but don't think their horses will ever be that lucky super star - maybe dad's luck rubs off and they get some technical GSWs!
- Katewerk
- Posts: 1338
- Joined: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:30 pm
- Location: Canada
- Contact:
A true breeder wouldn't care very much about the wins or whether they were by DQ, but would instead focus on the phenotype of that new stallion, combined with the strength of pedigree behind him and whether these provide the key ingredients to click with their mare.
I suppose breeding to sell has a different dynamic, but breeding to improve breeders don't care much about the nuance of race results, (providing he kept the right company). Or they shouldn't.
-
- Posts: 2838
- Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:05 pm
i know and agree, was just pokin' fun.Katewerk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:44 pmA true breeder wouldn't care very much about the wins or whether they were by DQ, but would instead focus on the phenotype of that new stallion, combined with the strength of pedigree behind him and whether these provide the key ingredients to click with their mare.
I suppose breeding to sell has a different dynamic, but breeding to improve breeders don't care much about the nuance of race results, (providing he kept the right company). Or they shouldn't.
-
- Posts: 1349
- Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:01 pm
Spendthrift gains another stud mo donegal
Why walk when you could ride?
-
- Posts: 1349
- Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:01 pm
So a friend of mine was at the Spendthrift Breeder's Party and apparently Cyberknife, Jackie's Warrior, and Greatest Honour are all going to be standing next year. Who are they getting rid of to make room? I’m gonna say win win win and hit it a bomb
Why walk when you could ride?
- StellarWind
- Posts: 161
- Joined: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:20 pm
not be surprising if it's will be Temple City or Cross Traffic.SukiSatsuki wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:25 pm So a friend of mine was at the Spendthrift Breeder's Party and apparently Cyberknife, Jackie's Warrior, and Greatest Honour are all going to be standing next year. Who are they getting rid of to make room? I’m gonna say win win win and hit it a bomb
- Mylute
- Posts: 11984
- Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:20 pm
- Location: within 30 miles of your current location and proceeding rapidly. be warned.
Who is Greatest Honour?
I think it's more likely to be Cross Traffic, Hit It a Bomb, Gormley, etc. than it is Temple City. He is their oldest stallion and has stood there his entire career, plus he was bred and owned by them.
Really take your pick of any others to leave, including newbies like Basin.
I think it's more likely to be Cross Traffic, Hit It a Bomb, Gormley, etc. than it is Temple City. He is their oldest stallion and has stood there his entire career, plus he was bred and owned by them.
Really take your pick of any others to leave, including newbies like Basin.
Only user to pick Rich Strike (89-1) in the 2022 Derby Pool Contest. | 2x Greatest Handicapper of All Time (2022 - 23) (2023 - 24) ✧ I kissed I'll Have Another! ✧
-
- Posts: 419
- Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:49 pm
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... per-stakesMylute wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:03 pm Who is Greatest Honour?
I think it's more likely to be Cross Traffic, Hit It a Bomb, Gormley, etc. than it is Temple City. He is their oldest stallion and has stood there his entire career, plus he was bred and owned by them.
Really take your pick of any others to leave, including newbies like Basin.
No one I would think they would be interested in?
-
- Posts: 1349
- Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:01 pm
I thought cross traffic was doing okay? Also I’ve forgotten he existed thought he was a gelding honestlyForTheThrill wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:08 pmhttps://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... per-stakesMylute wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:03 pm Who is Greatest Honour?
I think it's more likely to be Cross Traffic, Hit It a Bomb, Gormley, etc. than it is Temple City. He is their oldest stallion and has stood there his entire career, plus he was bred and owned by them.
Really take your pick of any others to leave, including newbies like Basin.
No one I would think they would be interested in?
Why walk when you could ride?
- Flanders
- Posts: 9916
- Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:01 pm
Not sure of their current set up at Spendthrift, as its owned by different people, but back in the 80s they stood a massive amount of stallions. So its possible they have more stallion stalls available. In 1986 they stood 40 stallions. Yes they isn't a mistype, they had 40 stallions.