Stallion News

[brunanas]

Operations like WinStar and even Darby Dan (Klimt got like 200 mares his first year) do far more damage to the breed/aftercare problem than people breeding for color, IMHO.

in my opinion, there is no farm worse than Spendthrift. i just skimmed through the first breeding years of their stallions that have joined the roster starting in 2019 (through 2021 obviously, as the 2022 numbers are not out yet). they have added 12 stallions to the roster since then. 10 were bred to 150 and more in their first year (the only two that didn't were Coal Front and Free Drop Billy, who bred ~80 mares):

Vino Rosso - 238
Mitole - 230
Authentic - 229
Vekoma - 222
Omaha Beach -215
Bolt d'Oro - 214
Maximus Mischief - 199 (not to mention he was an unsound mess )
Thousand Words - 184
Mor Spirit - 176
Cloud Computing - 171

this isn't just a problem for the longterm health of the breed and aftercare, but this is also abusive to the stallions. what WinStar did to Laoban is not just a WinStar thing. no stallion would naturally breed all those mares (and it obviously isn't just a WinStar/Spendthrift thing either). i have seen them say they do a lot for aftercare but i'm not sure what exactly they do for it (not saying they were lying, i just don't know what they do to help), but i do know i once requested their help on bringing a horse they bred back home from PR and i never got a reply back. curious to see how many will be kicked out of the roster as soon as their numbers drop

[Miss Woodford]

"...there are much better choices in that realm too - he'd be up against stallions like Diabolical, Euroears, Imperial Hint and Justin Phillip all offering their services to QH mares."

He's probably up against Favorite Trick, too, who I believe still exists out there in some freezers.
I'd love it if I start seeing Imperial Hint babies tearing it up at Los Al. If TB breeders don't appreciate that handsome little pocket rocket, then let the QH industry embrace him.

I'm pretty sure IH has been bred to quarter horse mares. I think maybe his first foal ever was out of an AQHA mare.

Nashville at WinStar is hilarious but unfortunately he'll still probably get several hundred mares in the 2, probably 3 years he'll be at WS. I agree that he would likely be much more successful, at least based on paper, being a quarter horse sire.

Operations like WinStar and even Darby Dan (Klimt got like 200 mares his first year) do far more damage to the breed/aftercare problem than people breeding for color, IMHO.

The 2021 JC report of mares bred shows that he got 47 TB mares last year, so Imperial Hint is getting more interest from the QH folks than the TBs.
LACER has photos of some of his appendix babies.
https://www.facebook.com/louisianacente ... 316849889/
https://www.facebook.com/louisianacente ... 4797526208
https://www.facebook.com/louisianacente ... 8102893878
https://www.facebook.com/louisianacente ... 8351377520
https://www.facebook.com/louisianacente ... 7618650927
https://www.facebook.com/louisianacente ... 0793103944

[amydfrom73]

In contrast, I was recently reading an article in an old Horseman's Journal (Dec. 1982) about Roberto and Darby Dan. How times have changed!

As expected, Roberto's book is full for 1983, as it has been since his syndication. For those who can get to him, Roberto's fee has risen from $80,000 in 1982 to $125,000. The big bay stallion is so popular that Darby Dan farm manager Robert Alexander hesitates to discuss his shareholders.

"Every time someone puts one of their names in the paper, next thing you know their phone starts ringin'," Alexander said. "I hate to have them bothered like that."

Unlike many other stallions, Roberto is bred to the 40 shareholders' mares each season and "that's it," Alexander said. "No bonuses, no nothing." Alexander pointed out that the 40-mare limit is a policy with all of Darby Dan's syndicated horses, including Graustark, His Majesty, and Little Current.

"Mr. Galbreath likes to give everybody a fair shot for their money," Alexander said. "If there's only 40 mares to handle, it makes it easy for them to get their mares here--they don't have to be waiting in line behind somebody else."

[Starine]

Roberto was such a terrific sire of sires. I really love the Hail to Reason line.

[Honor Code]

He'll be lucky to stick around long enough for his first crop to hit the track. Any guesses on a fee? Not only is he by Speightstown, but he could run a fast half mile before being cooked AND only made it to the track September of his three year old year, raced 4 times, had a 12 month layoff, raced four more times then presumably broke May of his five year old season. This is going to be the magnum opus of WinStar's marketing department.

I laughed at the phrasing "magnum opus" because Winstar is certainly going to have to dig deep writing those ads. Can't believe they are standing a horse that won a single listed stakes and allowance races. At some point, breeders and other countries are going to have their fill of WinStar and Spendthrift's stallion cast-offs and they're going to need a new business model. I can't imagine many breeders wanting to keep breeding to a winstar/spendthrift stallion only for them to be sold before their get start running.

By the way, someone on pedigree query already put in a tentative "Stud Career:
2023 - 20XX: WinStar Farm, KY" in anticipation of his future

[Mylute]

Operations like WinStar and even Darby Dan (Klimt got like 200 mares his first year) do far more damage to the breed/aftercare problem than people breeding for color, IMHO.

I've thought this for years. Most color breeders at least realize their horses are probably destined for alternative careers.

Southern Phantom, for example, was bred to a whopping 3 TB mares in 2021.

He'll probably have around or less than 100 colorful TB offspring in total, perhaps more depending, compared to...well everyone else I just mentioned.

[Cisco]

The 19yo Arc winner Rail Link has died yesterday from an apparent heart attack in his paddock at Haras de Vains (France).

https://www.france-sire.com/article-zoo ... eteint.php

[tachyon]

The 19yo Arc winner Rail Link has died yesterday from an apparent heart attack in his paddock at Haras de Vains (France).

https://www.france-sire.com/article-zoo ... eteint.php

That's very sad news.
I remember his Arc victory in 2006 as if it was yesterday.
May he rest in peace.

[Retrospectiv]

Operations like WinStar and even Darby Dan (Klimt got like 200 mares his first year) do far more damage to the breed/aftercare problem than people breeding for color, IMHO.

I've thought this for years. Most color breeders at least realize their horses are probably destined for alternative careers.

Southern Phantom, for example, was bred to a whopping 3 TB mares in 2021.

He'll probably have around or less than 100 colorful TB offspring in total, perhaps more depending, compared to...well everyone else I just mentioned.

SP is a good example for the discussion, but he's apparently not actually siring any colour so his future breedings may be pretty limited unless he gets some decent AQHA/APHA offpsring in the show ring.
The only foal they've shown was the one ouf of the already dominant white mare, Sugar Frosting. From what the owner of that one said, none of the others have had much white, which would explain why none have been shown. If he were passing on his splash like mutation, they'd have been posted all over.

But the point of the discussion is solid overall - most breeding for colour in TBs are not breeding great numbers and have a higher liklihood of having a good chance of another career overall.

[Squeaky]

I wonder if there will ever be any thought of bringing Super Saver back from Turkey to the US. Had another nice winner in Super Quick who got a 107 Beyer for her stakes win yesterday at Pimlico.

[Mylute]

(Hopefully this works)

Bayern having a frolic in South Korea.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdyBsEXJYmR ... MyMTA2M2Y=

And Flashback has a cool paddock.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZT_MrBpFd8 ... MyMTA2M2Y=

[20hayes20]

Sad to here French Stallion Rail Link suffered a heart Attack and sadly pass away at the age of 19.

He raced only 7 times winning his last 5 on the bounce.

The Prix De L' Arc De Triomphe was his greatest win.

Hayes

[tachyon]

''Inside Dalham Hall Stud''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv86hKmd_BA

Meeting Dubawi, Postponed, Palace Pier and top broodmare Eastern Joy at Dalham Hall Stud in Newmarket.

[ThreeMustangs]

A little arthritic, but Stravinsky is looking good for 26.

https://twitter.com/yusas/status/152868 ... yUJ0MYKtiQ

[Mylute]

Does Math Wizard have an export on file yet? St. George bought him in January 2022 with the intention of standing him in Mexico.

[brunanas]

Does Math Wizard have an export on file yet? St. George bought him in January 2022 with the intention of standing him in Mexico.

yes, but he apparently returned and is now going back to Mexico (i suppose). this is in his page:

Recent Registration Activity
Expedited Rush Fee Complete
Export Received and in progress
Export Complete
Returns Complete

[Flanders]

Imperador retired to stud at Haras Chenaut in Argentina.

https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... argentina/

[Mylute]

Very odd. The CTBA website listed Prospect Park as having been sold to Saudi Arabia, but apparently it was Turkey?
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... spect-park

[Miss Woodford]

Very odd. The CTBA website listed Prospect Park as having been sold to Saudi Arabia, but apparently it was Turkey?
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... spect-park

Well I can't find any mention of him on the TJK website or any of the Turkish TB news sites, nor any records of mares bred or foals which would appear on the TJK website if he had started stud there in 2021. Generally there's a lot of information available about stallions who've been exported to Turkey but the ones that go to Saudi Arabia might as well be entering into an alternate dimension.

[Flanders]

Very odd. The CTBA website listed Prospect Park as having been sold to Saudi Arabia, but apparently it was Turkey?
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... spect-park

Bloodhorse makes alot of mistakes in their articles. Actually most of the horse racing news sites make alot of mistakes. I'd believe the CTBA webpage.