Foals of 2015
- Summer Bird
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2 fillies born on March 22nd.
The Factor filly
Malibu Moon x Julia Tuttle
The Factor filly
Malibu Moon x Julia Tuttle
- Sparrow Castle
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Filly by Medaglia d’Oro x Wasted Tears. From Darley's Baby Love blog.
Foaled at Jeff Reddoch’s Stonehaven Steadings in Lexington, Kentucky, in early March, this filly is by Medaglia d'Oro, whose Vancouver just won the G1 Golden Slipper in Australia, and is out of six-time Graded winner Wasted Tears. Also G1-placed in the Matriarch Stakes, Wasted Tears is a half-sister to Stakes winners Wishingitwas and Almost Certain.
- ThreeMustangs
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@DarleyStallions: Congratulations to @WatershipStud on the arrival of a #Dubawi filly foal out of their superb G1W Dar Re Mi
- mariasmon
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Groupie Doll's Tapit colt premature, remains at the clinic on a nurse mare: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ature-foal
- Sparrow Castle
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Sorry to hear about Groupie Doll's foal...hope all turns out well.
Colt by Nicanor (full to Barbaro)-Miss Santa Anita. There's a cute video on
Shamrock Farm's FB page (can't figure out how to post videos).
Colt by Nicanor (full to Barbaro)-Miss Santa Anita. There's a cute video on
Shamrock Farm's FB page (can't figure out how to post videos).
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I understand premature foals are never a good thing but one week doesn't seem like that big of a deal; although I understand it's an individual thing. We had one born 3 weeks early that had a few problems but was ok. That mare always had foals a week or 2 early. Why was Groupie Doll not taken with him to the clinic? Did she reject him?
- Flanders
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Its her first foal, she very well may have been overprotective. Which would have made it extremely hard to help the foal.SCharm456 wrote:I understand premature foals are never a good thing but one week doesn't seem like that big of a deal; although I understand it's an individual thing. We had one born 3 weeks early that had a few problems but was ok. That mare always had foals a week or 2 early. Why was Groupie Doll not taken with him to the clinic? Did she reject him?
- Summer Bird
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c. Morning Line x Antifreeze (half to Force Freeze)
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The conversation at the BH article on Groupie Doll makes me a little insane, yet there are legitimate questions being raised -- it's just too bad it can't be discussed more amicably.
One week doesn't seem to qualify usually as premature, yet the baby clearly wasn't a strong one. The mare could've gone to the clinic with the foal, but apparently someone has made the decision to not keep her with the foal and we don't know what those reasons were -- one would think it's likely they want the mare to not be confined to the clinic stall and instead get ready to be bred.
As for nursemares, you won't ask anyone at any farm about nursemares and be told anything different than they use reputable nursemare providers. Yet does anyone really know what happens with all the nursemare foals? If they're all going to be just as well being bottle raised, then why wouldn't that be good enough for our Tb foals? Clearly, it's not the same.
As for the idea that the "reputable" ones only have nursemares who happen to have lost their own foal, doesn't that strike them as absurd? What are the chances of just happening to have nursemares available at any time who happened to lose their own foal?
The practice of using nursemares does make me uncomfortable. At best, it seems to me to be a necessary evil.
I certainly wish this baby well.
One week doesn't seem to qualify usually as premature, yet the baby clearly wasn't a strong one. The mare could've gone to the clinic with the foal, but apparently someone has made the decision to not keep her with the foal and we don't know what those reasons were -- one would think it's likely they want the mare to not be confined to the clinic stall and instead get ready to be bred.
As for nursemares, you won't ask anyone at any farm about nursemares and be told anything different than they use reputable nursemare providers. Yet does anyone really know what happens with all the nursemare foals? If they're all going to be just as well being bottle raised, then why wouldn't that be good enough for our Tb foals? Clearly, it's not the same.
As for the idea that the "reputable" ones only have nursemares who happen to have lost their own foal, doesn't that strike them as absurd? What are the chances of just happening to have nursemares available at any time who happened to lose their own foal?
The practice of using nursemares does make me uncomfortable. At best, it seems to me to be a necessary evil.
I certainly wish this baby well.
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- Retrospectiv
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I'm finding the label of a foal foaled a week 'early' as premature an odd one too. Mares are not humans, they don't have due dates. Normal gestation is on average anywhere from 320 to 370 days, and even past 370 not uncommon, or unhealthy. On a guess I'd say the foal was just premature or weak period and it had nothing to do with his calendar foaling date.Admin wrote: One week doesn't seem to qualify usually as premature, yet the baby clearly wasn't a strong one. The mare could've gone to the clinic with the foal, but apparently someone has made the decision to not keep her with the foal and we don't know what those reasons were -- one would think it's likely they want the mare to not be confined to the clinic stall and instead get ready to be bred.
Think you may be right on them keeping her separate so as to get her bred right back too by the sounds of it.
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Cannot imagine leaving the mare at the clinic for one month. For one thing, it sounds like the foal was not able to stand and nurse so what would be the point of having Groupie Doll at the clinic at the onset of this while efforts were going on to save the foal? Right call made.
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I heard elsewhere that the only reason Groupie Doll was not transported to the clinic with the foal is because the foal was born during the massive snowstorm that blanketed Lexington in early March (22 inches of snow at my house and I don't live far from where Groupie Doll does). Under those conditions, the trailer at the farm could not be gotten out to transport the mare. Of necessity, the foal was put in the back of a car and driven to the clinic by itself.Admin wrote:The conversation at the BH article on Groupie Doll makes me a little insane, yet there are legitimate questions being raised -- it's just too bad it can't be discussed more amicably.
One week doesn't seem to qualify usually as premature, yet the baby clearly wasn't a strong one. The mare could've gone to the clinic with the foal, but apparently someone has made the decision to not keep her with the foal and we don't know what those reasons were -- one would think it's likely they want the mare to not be confined to the clinic stall and instead get ready to be bred.
As for nursemares, you won't ask anyone at any farm about nursemares and be told anything different than they use reputable nursemare providers. Yet does anyone really know what happens with all the nursemare foals? If they're all going to be just as well being bottle raised, then why wouldn't that be good enough for our Tb foals? Clearly, it's not the same.
As for the idea that the "reputable" ones only have nursemares who happen to have lost their own foal, doesn't that strike them as absurd? What are the chances of just happening to have nursemares available at any time who happened to lose their own foal?
The practice of using nursemares does make me uncomfortable. At best, it seems to me to be a necessary evil.
I certainly wish this baby well.