Stallion News

Northport · Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:46 pm

Izvestia wrote:
halo wrote:Sounds like they need help getting mares to their stallions.
Yep. I'd rather go to Power Broker than New Years Day, but both stallions are over-priced.

is none of the above an option? It's an interesting way to promote a stallion, and I'm glad people are trying something new... but for lightly raced horses that were retired without really blowing anyone's minds? No thanks. Would be cool to see deals like this for older, durable, horses who aren't as popular

TBird · Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:06 pm

Northport wrote:
Izvestia wrote:
halo wrote:Sounds like they need help getting mares to their stallions.
Yep. I'd rather go to Power Broker than New Years Day, but both stallions are over-priced.
is none of the above an option? It's an interesting way to promote a stallion, and I'm glad people are trying something new... but for lightly raced horses that were retired without really blowing anyone's minds? No thanks. Would be cool to see deals like this for older, durable, horses who aren't as popular

I find Power Broker quite interesting. He had 10 starts at 2 & 3, which is about average for stallion prospects these days. He was a G1 winner at 2, a G2 winner at 3 and ran second in the G1 Haskell. He's by a powerhouse sire (Pulpit) from a strong female family. I think he's very attractively priced as an unproven stallion.

second_glance · Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:55 pm

Toby's Corner at Hidaka Stallion Station: http://www.jrha.or.jp/stallion_e/horse/ ... bys_Corner

Izvestia · Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:24 am

second_glance wrote:Toby's Corner at Hidaka Stallion Station: http://www.jrha.or.jp/stallion_e/horse/ ... bys_Corner

He looks like a Warmblood. No hind end, big head. And so laid back.

Izvestia · Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:30 am

I'll correct myself, I also like Power Broker, and you are right, that's a good price for him (I was referring to New Years Day, more than anything). But, for $10,000 you can go to Flat Out, who I really like. Also in that range is I Want Revenge, Liaison, Morning Line, and Overanalyze (for 2014).

For $12,500 you can go to Justin Phillip or Jimmy Creed...both far better prospects than New Years Day. I'd be interested to see how these two do five years from now.

I think Justin Phillip and Flat Out are the two best priced and quality stallion prospects for 2014.

tachyon · Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:41 pm

Darley Japan stallion parade 2014 (Feb 24)

Hard Spun(USA)

Monterosso(GB)

King's Best(USA)

-- full-size picks and full-story with uma-furusato.com
http://uma-furusato.com/news/detail/_id_76038

-- photos and videos with umaichi.com
http://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/c9 ... c2c44eda05

-- videos from youtube

Hard Spun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_OLltfMcNQ

Monterosso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VsoBwoFrlU

All stallions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03w6Fu5yAjM

Life At Zen · Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:31 pm

tachyon wrote:Darley Japan stallion parade 2014 (Feb 24)

Hard Spun(USA)

Monterosso(GB)

King's Best(USA)

-- full-size picks and full-story with uma-furusato.com
http://uma-furusato.com/news/detail/_id_76038

-- photos and videos with umaichi.com
http://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/c9 ... c2c44eda05

-- videos from youtube

Hard Spun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_OLltfMcNQ

Monterosso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VsoBwoFrlU

All stallions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03w6Fu5yAjM

Wow... They all look amazing, especially Monterosso.

Starine · Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:04 am

I'm still not sure why the Japanese secured Toby's Corner... his pedigree just doesn't seem like something they'd spring for.

tachyon · Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:33 pm

Starine wrote:I'm still not sure why the Japanese secured Toby's Corner... his pedigree just doesn't seem like something they'd spring for.

Then, Bellamy Road's huge romp in the Wood was a little bit more poplular in Japan than you could have imagined.

Toby's Corner got 48 mares last year.

mariasmon · Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:41 pm

I wonder what they paid for Toby's Corner and how much $$$ it would've taken to just buy Bellamy Road.

Starine · Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:14 pm

Thanks for sharing, Tachyon. It's nice to know he was sent almost 50 mares.

second_glance · Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:56 pm

The Thoroughbred ‏@thethoroughbred 2m
news from sales is that Camelot (Montjeu) and Declaration Of War (War Front) will be the new sires at Coolmore Aust this spring.

second_glance · Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:54 pm

Not really news, but Frances J. Karon is in Ireland, visited Ballylinch today, and met 30-year-old Soviet Star -- son of Nureyev and a fine, fine racehorse in his own right -- and his buddy.

Starine · Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:20 am

Great photo; thanks for sharing. He looks great, and it's neat to see him with a pet goat. I didn't know they did that with stallions (even pensioned ones).

Izvestia · Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:06 am

Some would probably eat a goat! Being a stallion is lonely, so it seems like a nice thing to do. Besides, he looks like a complete sweetie. Thanks for sharing the photo.

frankel13 · Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:42 pm

Starine wrote:Great photo; thanks for sharing. He looks great, and it's neat to see him with a pet goat. I didn't know they did that with stallions (even pensioned ones).

Do they geld stallions once they have been retired due to old age? Presumably if they did then these horses could socialise with mares and other geldings.

serenassong · Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:55 pm

frankel13 wrote:
Starine wrote:Great photo; thanks for sharing. He looks great, and it's neat to see him with a pet goat. I didn't know they did that with stallions (even pensioned ones).
Do they geld stallions once they have been retired due to old age? Presumably if they did then these horses could socialise with mares and other geldings.

I would think it would be too risky, at that age- and they would still act studish anyway. We had a horse at the barn I used to ride at that wasn't gelded until he was almost six, and he was very studish until the day he died.

Izvestia · Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:22 pm

It's very risky. I had a friend looking an 8-year-old OTTB that was still complete, but she passed on him because of the risk and cost of cutting him at that age.

Life At Zen · Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:41 pm

Izvestia wrote:It's very risky. I had a friend looking an 8-year-old OTTB that was still complete, but she passed on him because of the risk and cost of cutting him at that age.

8 shouldn't be an issue in regards to risk. I've seen stallions gelded at 15. 20+ yeah, I can see an issue with. But under 10? Did the horse have any issues that would've made it complicated?

Northport · Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:18 pm

Life At Zen wrote:
Izvestia wrote:It's very risky. I had a friend looking an 8-year-old OTTB that was still complete, but she passed on him because of the risk and cost of cutting him at that age.
8 shouldn't be an issue in regards to risk. I've seen stallions gelded at 15. 20+ yeah, I can see an issue with. But under 10? Did the horse have any issues that would've made it complicated?

This. Most male sporthorses born and bred in Europe are kept stallions until they are sold to someone who wants a gelding. Almost all of the male horses at my farm that have been imported (between ages 4-10) are gelded between when money changes hands and when they get on the plane. Whether or not they're studdish depends on the horse, and particularly on whether or not they were bred at all before being gelded. In my experience with the horses I've been around that were gelded late, most weren't really studdish at all, although my horse has a little extra sass while riding but is quiet as can be on the ground.