2022 Keeneland September Sale

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Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:50 am

Squeaky wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:45 am Wonder if Larry will have more success with this one than with Instagrand https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... l-for-best
Instagrand could have done more if Larry hadn't micromanaged him at 2.
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:55 am

Instagrand may have had a better career if his owner didn't want to randomly soapbox about "Triple Crown bad" before then immediately sticking him in Derby preps.
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:28 am

Falinadin wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:32 pm
Some people do try to get to the top of the game through numbers. The Ramsays are one, and the current Calumet kind of does it. Breed your stallions to everything with 4 legs, and hope that with a few hundred foals on the ground they win enough to get the stud's ranking up, and even moreso hope that lightning strikes and you get a Derby winner or something. (I know that nobody was really arguing for this, I just like analyzing different strategies and scenarios :) ) Inevitably though they end up with big bloated operations with so many poor runners that they can't afford to care for them all, and they end up getting sued for not paying training fees, etc.
This was also the Adena Springs method from 2000-2010-ish
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:33 pm

Mylute wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:55 am Instagrand may have had a better career if his owner didn't want to randomly soapbox about "Triple Crown bad" before then immediately sticking him in Derby preps.
Who is Larry’s trainer now?
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:37 pm

Squeaky wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:33 pm
Mylute wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:55 am Instagrand may have had a better career if his owner didn't want to randomly soapbox about "Triple Crown bad" before then immediately sticking him in Derby preps.
Who is Larry’s trainer now?
I think he has a few with Brad Cox and Bill Mott.
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:51 pm

Northport wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:28 am
Falinadin wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:32 pm
Some people do try to get to the top of the game through numbers. The Ramsays are one, and the current Calumet kind of does it. Breed your stallions to everything with 4 legs, and hope that with a few hundred foals on the ground they win enough to get the stud's ranking up, and even moreso hope that lightning strikes and you get a Derby winner or something. (I know that nobody was really arguing for this, I just like analyzing different strategies and scenarios :) ) Inevitably though they end up with big bloated operations with so many poor runners that they can't afford to care for them all, and they end up getting sued for not paying training fees, etc.
This was also the Adena Springs method from 2000-2010-ish
Ramsey and his farm manager Mark Partridge were actually way more thoughtful with the mares they sent to Kitten's Joy. Yes, they claimed a lot of them, but they didn't claim just anything. They looked for specific sirelines, fillies with solid families (at least blacktype under the 3rd dams) and ones that may have run well early in their careers before dropping into the claiming ranks for one reason or another.

Now, what Ramsey has done to win owner titles at many meets is another story altogether. He would put lots of horses in claimers, even if they were good enough for allowance races, to get his numbers up.
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:01 pm

Seems like a lot of ridglings in today’s book- how much does this deter bidders?
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:31 pm

There are some pretty successful ridglings out there to convince buyers who hesitate. A.P. Indy anyone? ;)
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Donato Lanni strike again for undisclosed client https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -keeneland
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Squeaky wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:13 pm The Avengers strike again https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -keeneland
this one isn't for the Avengers. probably Petersen?
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brunanas wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:15 pm
Squeaky wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:13 pm The Avengers strike again https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -keeneland
this one isn't for the Avengers. probably Petersen?
Repole was underbidder
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:19 pm

Squeaky wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:16 pm
brunanas wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:15 pm
Squeaky wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:13 pm The Avengers strike again https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -keeneland
this one isn't for the Avengers. probably Petersen?
Repole was underbidder
i think we'll have to wait and see who he purchased for, but if it had been the Avengers it would have said "Donato Lanni for SF/Madaket/Starlight". i believe it was for Petersen tho.
do you have any underbidders for the other top prices?
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:21 pm

No sorry just read that Mike dramatically moved his finger across his throat after the final bid prompting the auctioneer to say “I guess that’s a no”.
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:58 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:31 pm There are some pretty successful ridglings out there to convince buyers who hesitate. A.P. Indy anyone? ;)
Honor A.P. too, just a recent one off the top of my head. There's another fairly young ridgling at stud that I can't think of.
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KatieK101 wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:58 pm
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:31 pm There are some pretty successful ridglings out there to convince buyers who hesitate. A.P. Indy anyone? ;)
Honor A.P. too, just a recent one off the top of my head. There's another fairly young ridgling at stud that I can't think of.
https://breederscup.com/news/2014/ameri ... r-favorite according to this, AP (as in American Pharoah) is a ridgling
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:45 pm

Repole tweeted:
So far team Repole has purchased 57 horses at the September
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A year from now they will be with their trainer.

🤔 🤷🏼‍♂️

and a picture of him with Pletcher and a pic of him with Baffert
Has he used Baffert before? Clearly he is going to start to.
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:50 pm

Wow- that is big news. I thought he was strictly with Pletcher. And 57 horses- OMG. That is a big investment!
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Flanders wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:45 pm Repole tweeted:
So far team Repole has purchased 57 horses at the September
@keenelandsales
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A year from now they will be with their trainer.

🤔 🤷🏼‍♂️

and a picture of him with Pletcher and a pic of him with Baffert
Has he used Baffert before? Clearly he is going to start to.
does anyone know how Repole acts towards aftercare? a lot of horses there and obviously not all will be successful as racers... are they the "drop-them-in-the-claiming-ranks" type or do they oftenly retire their not so good horses to second careers?
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:22 pm

I'm pretty sure Repole has a pretty good history with rehoming.

I mean he really didn't have to do that for Overdriven, for example.
"Maybe other people would have sold him, and he would have had a couple of more years (as a stallion)," Repole said. "But what happens when he's 11 or 14 or 16. I didn't want him out of my control and in a country where I would never know what happened to him. He was good to me as a racehorse, and I gave him every opportunity. Now I want to be sure he's cared for."

Repole first contacted Ford at New Vocations because he is already an avid supporter of the nonprofit founded in 1992 to rehabilitate and retrain ex-racehorses. Finding new homes for the horses is the primary goal, and more than 6,000 retired Thoroughbreds and Standardbreds have been placed since New Vocations' inception. The organization operates out of two facilities in Ohio, one near Lexington, one in Pennsylvania, and one in New York. Repole is a co-sponsor with Mrs. Paul Robsham of a new barn at the farm near Lexington, which is on the historic Mereworth Farm.
Micromanage was also sent to New Vocations from Rockridge Stud. His Giant Surprise was pensioned there last year and I imagine will probably stay there - he's probably lucky to be alive considering his leg so I don't think a second career is really in his future.

However if he suddenly starts sending Great White Martyr horses after all of this my view of him will plummet.
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:25 pm

He also rehomed stakes winning Notacatbutallama with former TBC poster APVal
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