Stallion News

bare it all · Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:27 am

I've seen whispers of PioneeroftheNile going to $100k for siring a Triple Crown winner.

Katewerk · Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:33 am

bare it all wrote:I've seen whispers of PioneeroftheNile going to $100k for siring a Triple Crown winner.

From every logical perspective, it would appear that horse breeders are nuts.

BlindLucky · Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:58 pm

Harras Puerta de Hierro in Chile is standing Grassy, Neko Bay, Pavarotti (A.P. Indy 1/2 to G1 winner Snow Ridge), and a few others--some might just shuttle, not exactly sure.

http://www.haraspuertadehierro.com/sitio2005/main.php

Horsebagger · Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:33 pm

TapitsGal wrote:That seems a bit more reasonable than APs predicted $75k fee

I think AP being 3x more than CC is more than defensible.

Izvestia · Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:09 am

Horsebagger wrote:
TapitsGal wrote:That seems a bit more reasonable than APs predicted $75k fee
I think AP being 3x more than CC is more than defensible.

On pedigree alone AP is worth more. Physically, AP is a better looking horse. CC turns out fairly noticeably.
I would also say a Champion 2-year-old who went on to win the Derby-Preakness is a lot more attractive. AP's overall race record is superior - even if he is one year behind CC.

BaroqueAgain1 · Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:13 pm

AP's sire line is pretty popular right now and, with Empire Maker being out of reach in Japan right now, a superior example of his bloodline should be attractive.

tachyon · Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:48 am

Casino Drive(USA) sired his first winner, when his 2yo colt Koei Temma(JPN)[o/o Primo Piatto(JPN) by Mill George(USA)] won in his debut impressively Hanshin R5 Newcomer 1400m turf on June 7th 2015 off odds 29 to 1.

-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq8ycY9sOv0
Koei Temma: #1 horse
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001168068/

mariasmon · Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:50 am

tachyon wrote:Casino Drive(USA) sired his first winner, when his 2yo colt Koei Temma(JPN)[o/o Primo Piatto(JPN) by Mill George(USA)] won in his debut impressively Hanshin R5 Newcomer 1400m turf on June 7th 2015 off odds 29 to 1.

-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq8ycY9sOv0
Koei Temma: #1 horse
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001168068/

Hope he does well at stud. He didn't have the smoothest racing career, despite having ability.

TapitsGal · Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:49 am

Anyone want to guess what pioneerof the niles stud fee will shoot up to now?

bare it all · Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:48 am

TapitsGal wrote:Anyone want to guess what pioneerof the niles stud fee will shoot up to now?

Read back in the thread. There's already talk of $100k for him.

carole · Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:58 am

Well he has something no other stallion in the world can boast about. He is the only currently living stallion to sire an American Triple Crown winner. My prediction?
$125,000

lurkey mclurker · Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:39 pm

I posted this in one of the AP threads yesterday, but it fits here.

WinStar tweeted this yesterday... no info about his fee, though.

ETA: And I have to admit I'm surprised nobody has edited his Pedigree Query entry yet with "sire of Triple Crown winner" yet. His dam's page has it.

Sparrow Castle · Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:08 am

Didn't see this posted yet. New photo of A.P. Indy at Lane's End Farm. He's looking good for an old guy.

Gary King
‏@garykingTDN
The living legend A.P. Indy looks a picture in today's @theTDN. @LanesEndFarms @ABRLive

Izvestia · Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:58 am

Indy! Such a star. He is a beauty.

mariasmon · Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:35 am

Haras don Alberto has been able to tap into Scat Daddy's success in Chile and secure his son No Nay Never for the 2015 SH season. Joining him are War Command and Stay Thirsty. Mastercraftsman and Stevie Wonderboy also return, among others.

http://www.harasdonalberto.cl/pedigree/ ... =padrillos

carole · Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:51 am

mariasmon wrote:Haras don Alberto has been able to tap into Scat Daddy's success in Chile and secure his son No Nay Never for the 2015 SH season. Joining him are War Command and Stay Thirsty. Mastercraftsman and Stevie Wonderboy also return, among others.

http://www.harasdonalberto.cl/pedigree/ ... =padrillos

Mastercraftsman is a big deal, he's had Amazing Maria winning at Royal Ascot and his superstar son The Grey Gatsby was oh so close to Ascot Grade 1 glory!

Speaking of Royal Ascot, Zoffany has been doing exceptional with 3 juvenile Royal Ascot winners from just his first crop! For those who don't recognise who Zoffany is, he was a very useful miler who went within 1/2 length of beating Frankel in the 2011 St James' Palace Stakes at Royal Ascot.

hadrianmarcus · Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:13 pm

mariasmon wrote:Haras don Alberto has been able to tap into Scat Daddy's success in Chile and secure his son No Nay Never for the 2015 SH season. Joining him are War Command and Stay Thirsty. Mastercraftsman and Stevie Wonderboy also return, among others.

Happy to see Seeking The Dia returning to Haras don Alberto as well. He had a quick stint in Japan, then Kentucky and then Florida before being exporting to South Korea. He's had nice success in South America, including a G1 winner and several graded stakes winners. Not sure I've ever see any stallion split time between Korea and the South Hemi....but happy for Dia...he was virtually ignored in the stateside market.

As for Mastercraftsman....he made the switch to Haras don Alberto after standing a couple seasons in Australia. He's the real deal.

Retrospectiv · Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:54 am

Twining (Forty Niner - Courtly Dee) has passed away. He was 24.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra ... t7DaysNews

tachyon · Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:37 am

Will we now see Sunday Silence's 3rd generations stepping up their presence?

Victoire Pisa(JPN)[2007H. Neo Universe(JPN) x Whitewater Affair(GB) by Machiavellian(USA)] sired his first winner, when his 2yo filly Crowned Jack(JPN)[o/o Golden Jack(JPN) by Afleet(CAN)] broke her maiden at second asking going 1200m turf at Chukyo 1R on July 5th 2015.
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001166021/
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001046333/

Dream Journey(JPN)[2004h. Stay Gold(JPN) x Oriental Art(JPN) by Mejiro McQueen(JPN)] sired his first winner, when his 2yo filly Estitato(JPN)[o/o Skiffle(JPN) by Tony Bin(IRE)] won in her debut going 1400m turf at Chukyo 6R on July 5th 2015.
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001167276/
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000804714/

BlindLucky · Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:43 pm

2013 Breeders' Cup Marathon winner London Bridge has joined the Ridgeview Park roster at Muskerry East in Victoria. London Bridge is the first son of leading Kentucky sire Arch (Kris S.) to stand in Australia.

http://www.breednet.com.au/news/113253/ ... eview-Park