2015 Stallion Fees

[Natalma]

Wondering if Big Brown stands in Ky, or even the US, next year.

[Admin]

There is an export on file for him via JC. I really, really wish that the export would list the country and date of export.

ETA- Forgot that he did shuttle to Brazil- perhaps he stays?

I hear they love him in Brazil, that breeders are flocking to him. Wasn't the case here.

[serenassong]

Wondering if Big Brown stands in Ky, or even the US, next year.

I was thinking the same thing.

[flytpthestars]

Glad I have Kodiak's halter... He's a nice horse, plus his dam.

[mimi6920]

Am I the only one that is surprised that Distorted Humor is still 100k? He hasn't really had any break-out starts this year and last year wasn't a top year for him either: he finished the year 28th on the general sire list.

[sweettalk]

Am I the only one that is surprised that Distorted Humor is still 100k? He hasn't really had any break-out starts this year and last year wasn't a top year for him either: he finished the year 28th on the general sire list.

no, i was just too afraid to say anything. but i agree.

[Flanders]

Am I the only one that is surprised that Distorted Humor is still 100k? He hasn't really had any break-out starts this year and last year wasn't a top year for him either: he finished the year 28th on the general sire list.

He is an older, going to be 22 next year, established stallion. He has 10% stakes winners from foals of racing age, it is rare to see that kind of number with the size of books in today's day and age. His foals sell well at the auctions and he covered 99 mares this year. They don't need to drop him down. He also got a G1 2yof in Cursory Glance, in Great Britain this year.

[tachyon]

JBBA 2015

Cape Blanco(IRE): JPY 250,000 (about US$ 23k)
Empire Maker(USA): JPY 350,000 (about US$ 32k)
Johannesburg(USA): JPY 200,000 (about US$ 19k)

[Alywow]

WinStar

Artie Schiller - $15,000
Bellamy Road - $10,000
Bodemeister - $30,000
Colonel John - $10,000
Congrats - TBD
Distorted Humor - $100,000
Drosselmeyer - $15,000
Fast Bullet - $5,000
Gemologist - $15,000
Hold Me Back - $5,000
More Than Ready - $50,000
Overanalyze - $10,000
Paynter - $25,000
Pioneerof the Nile - TBD
Revolutionary - $7,500
Sidney's Candy - $15,000
Speightstown - $80,000
Spring At Last - $10,000
Super Saver - $35,000
Take Charge Indy - $20,000
Tiznow - $75,000
U S Ranger - $5,000

Three Chimneys

Will Take Charge— $30,000
Exchange Rate — $20,000
Sky Mesa — $20,000
Strong Mandate — $10,000
Yes It's True — $10,000
Brilliant Speed — $5,000
Caleb's Posse — $5,000
Big Brown—TBA

I wonder what happened to Ice Box since he's no longer at Three Chimneys?

[sweettalk]

i think ice box went to calumet.

[Flanders]

i think ice box went to calumet.

I thought he started at Calumet? When Brad Kelley bought it, he was moved to Three Chimneys.

[Life At Zen]

Revolutionary at 7,500 is lower than I expected, especially when a horse like Strong Mandate is at 10,000.

Revolutionary is one stunning boy. Hopefully he can carry on for his sire.

[Life At Zen]

i think ice box went to calumet.

I thought he started at Calumet? When Brad Kelley bought it, he was moved to Three Chimneys.

Yes, this. So far I've been unable to find anything of where he is now.

[Izvestia]

I don't really think either of them are overly appealing, but Revolutionary never won a grade 1, and he was sort of a plodder. Also, a son of War Pass. He was sounder than Strong Mandate. Love his female family though.
Compared to Strong Mandate, who won a grade 1 at 2 (but basically did nothing much after that). I'd think Tiznow is a bit more appealing as a sire of sires (sorry War Pass). He does have half brothers that are useful sires in Full Mandate and Newfoundland. Also has a good female family.
It's a toss up.

[carole]

Strong Mandate is a Grade 1 winner by 2 time BC classic winner Tiznow and out of a Grade 1 winning mare. It's no wonder he's priced higher than Revolutionary.

[mimi6920]

I am a little puzzled with Will Take Charge's fee. I think he will make a nice stallion, but if you want a Take Charge Lady stallion, I would think that you would go to his half brother, Take Charge Indy. He may be less accomplished as a racehorse, but he is really a fine looking stallion. More importantly, he is 10k cheaper than WTC, and he is from a known sire of sires, AP Indy. Unbridled's Song has not been a tremendous sire of sires, so if I was a breeder, I would choose Take Charge Indy.

It kind of hurts me to say that because Will Take Charge was sound and durable, whereas Take Charge Indy was NOT.

On a tangent, Yes It's True for 10k is an absolute steal!!

[Life At Zen]

Strong Mandate is a Grade 1 winner by 2 time BC classic winner Tiznow and out of a Grade 1 winning mare. It's no wonder he's priced higher than Revolutionary.

Grade 1 winner at 2 and did absolutely nothing after that. Revolutionary has the better race record.

We all know Tiznow won the BCC twice. He's produced great runners but isn't exactly a sire of sires. Cripes, Colonel John is struggling to stay above water right now.

There are so many other Tiznow sons out there with better records that are more appealing. Between these two, I would take my chances with Revolutionary.

[carole]

I only say this because it seems pedigree is far more important here (and in Europe too it seems). I agree Revolutionary was a nicer racehorse but I think breeders would be more willing to go to Strong Mandate.

[Izvestia]

Revolutionary is also out of a Grade 1 winner from the female family of Mineshaft.

[Afrashad]

Dubawi: +£25,000
New Approach: Same
Iffraaj: Previously stood in Ireland
Sepoy: Same
Farhh: -£5,500
Poet's Voice: Same
Epaulette: Previously stood in Ireland
Kheleyf: -£2,000

Shamardal: +€20,000
Teofilo: Same
Exceed and Excel: Previously stood in the UK
Dawn Approach: Same
Cape Cross: -€10,000
Raven's Pass: -€5,000
Helmet: Previously stood in the UK
Casamento: Same
Vale of York: Same

Authorized: Same
Manduro: Same
Rio de la Plata: -€1,500
Slickly: -€1,500
Alexandros: Same
Masterstroke: Same