Hansen Sold to South Korea

Flanders · Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:58 am

carole wrote:Well Hansen will have 2 crops of horses that will race in North America, his current foals and his current unborn foals.

That said I'm disappointed, I really liked Hansen and I was hoping he would stay over here.

Just one US crop, he was sold before the current breeding season.

firehorse · Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:33 pm

This shot of him on the studbook site makes me sad

http://studbook.kra.co.kr/h_photo/032/032990-f.jpg

Life At Zen · Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:05 pm

firehorse wrote:This shot of him on the studbook site makes me sad
http://studbook.kra.co.kr/h_photo/032/032990-f.jpg

Not this discussion again.....

serenassong · Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:07 am

Flanders wrote:
carole wrote:Well Hansen will have 2 crops of horses that will race in North America, his current foals and his current unborn foals.

That said I'm disappointed, I really liked Hansen and I was hoping he would stay over here.
Just one US crop, he was sold before the current breeding season.

Never made sense to me, not even given a chance to see what he would produce. I guess money really does talk in some cases. Thought his owner was sooooo in love with him. Hope he does well.

perfectsoul · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:56 pm

Feh. Don't like this news.

Catalina · Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:18 pm

serenassong wrote:
Flanders wrote:
carole wrote:Well Hansen will have 2 crops of horses that will race in North America, his current foals and his current unborn foals.

That said I'm disappointed, I really liked Hansen and I was hoping he would stay over here.
Just one US crop, he was sold before the current breeding season.
Never made sense to me, not even given a chance to see what he would produce. I guess money really does talk in some cases. Thought his owner was sooooo in love with him. Hope he does well.

Maybe his namesake belatedly realized what an ass he made of himself leading up to the Kentucky Derby.

I also feel sad, seeing the head-on shot from Korea. Not how you present a valued stallion to potential breeders.

Somnambulist · Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:49 pm

Because the chain?

Uhm.

Catalina · Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:25 pm

Somnambulist wrote:Because the chain?

Uhm.

Because of how the halter is twisted, and the horse looks more like a doofus than alert and interested.

Ziggypop · Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:47 pm

Somnambulist wrote:Because the chain?

Uhm.

because how he looks.

Catalina · Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:44 pm

Such as, short-tempered groom? Or, finding himself bumped from a 5-star resort to an inn?

dustino140 · Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:06 pm

Catalina wrote:Such as, short-tempered groom? Or, finding himself bumped from a 5-star resort to an inn?

It's his own dumb fault. Had he run a little faster, he wouldn't be in this predicament.

Miss Woodford · Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:48 am

Catalina wrote:
serenassong wrote:
Never made sense to me, not even given a chance to see what he would produce. I guess money really does talk in some cases. Thought his owner was sooooo in love with him. Hope he does well.
Maybe his namesake belatedly realized what an ass he made of himself leading up to the Kentucky Derby.

I also feel sad, seeing the head-on shot from Korea. Not how you present a valued stallion to potential breeders.

That's not for a stud ad, it's his registration photo in the online studbook.

Somnambulist · Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:53 am

Catalina wrote:
Somnambulist wrote:Because the chain?

Uhm.
Because of how the halter is twisted, and the horse looks more like a doofus than alert and interested.

lol. Well horses often look like doofus'

He looks content enough to me, but I don't know him.

Personally I think it's cute. Maybe not what you want professionally, but still. Someone needs to be re-taught how to put a halter on, but that's about it.

serenassong · Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:07 am

MM was using this for a bit as her avatar- it's so bad it's cute- Rock Hard Ten

Someone needs to learn how to take care of a forelock properly.

Private Thoughts · Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:33 am

That's an awfully large chain for a horse. Looks like something I might use to pull a stump out of the ground on the farm.

And the nicks and cuts on his face look to be new. Perhaps caused by somebody jerking on the overly large chain wrapped around his face.

People seem to forget these are not money making machines, but living creatures. An article on IHA mentioned it took him over a year to understand some basic commands in Japanese, so if this guy is not understanding Korean, he is probably being shanked like crazy when he does something they don't like, hence the marks. Maybe these foreign farms should have someone who speaks English to work with the imported stallions to help them with the transition.

But then my thoughts on sending our champs abroad are not PC so I will stop while I'm ahead.

Somnambulist · Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:31 am

I use chains just as long on horses all the time. Yes, they're living breathing creatures (really now?) but if you have a living, breathing 1200lb+ animal that's a little hard to handle the chain is there for a reason. It's not killing the horse. And I work with extremely well trained, bombproof horses - not thoroughbreds with their balls still attached.

This is potentially why I should stop posting on this forum.

Private Thoughts · Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:47 pm

Could care less how long the chain is, that chain is too darn heavy for a horse. Really, they need tow chain weight shanks for a stallion? If so then they are not much of a horseman. And that horse looks like he has been scuffed in the face, pretty badly.

I have worked with horses with balls still attached as well. Most were better behaved than some of the mares, some not very nice at all. But I never had to beat them or shank the shit out of them to get them to comply. If you get in a fight with a 1200 lb animal you will come out on the loosing end every time. I have also seen alot of abuse in my days, one of the reasons I no longer work in the industry.

This horse looks like crap in that picture. Google images of him. I don't see any marks on his face and his body language looks different.

serenassong · Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:52 pm

Just wondering how long after his quarantine that pic was taken? Some horses really stress thru the process and it shows- something could have happened on the trip over as well.

Catalina · Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:57 pm

Private Thoughts wrote:Could care less how long the chain is, that chain is too darn heavy for a horse. Really, they need tow chain weight shanks for a stallion? If so then they are not much of a horseman. And that horse looks like he has been scuffed in the face, pretty badly.

I have worked with horses with balls still attached as well. Most were better behaved than some of the mares, some not very nice at all. But I never had to beat them or shank the shit out of them to get them to comply. If you get in a fight with a 1200 lb animal you will come out on the loosing end every time. I have also seen alot of abuse in my days, one of the reasons I no longer work in the industry.

This horse looks like crap in that picture. Google images of him. I don't see any marks on his face and his body language looks different.

Thank you. Couldn't have said it better.

Ziggypop · Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:00 pm

Catalina wrote:
Private Thoughts wrote:Could care less how long the chain is, that chain is too darn heavy for a horse. Really, they need tow chain weight shanks for a stallion? If so then they are not much of a horseman. And that horse looks like he has been scuffed in the face, pretty badly.

I have worked with horses with balls still attached as well. Most were better behaved than some of the mares, some not very nice at all. But I never had to beat them or shank the shit out of them to get them to comply. If you get in a fight with a 1200 lb animal you will come out on the loosing end every time. I have also seen alot of abuse in my days, one of the reasons I no longer work in the industry.

This horse looks like crap in that picture. Google images of him. I don't see any marks on his face and his body language looks different.

And this picture seems to be from when he was still racing.

Thank you. Couldn't have said it better.