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tachyon
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mariasmon wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:01 am
tachyon wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:57 am Auguste Rodin was sweating before the race.
So he might not have been in his fine form today.

Super Do Deuce will surely be voted the 2024 Horse of Year.
He will run his final in the Arima Kinen before retiring to Shadai Stallion Station as a very popular stallion.
Would you say he's the best son of Heart's Cry? I liked Just a Way, so I might be biased toward him. I'm just happy that the US-bred/raced mares who've gone to Japan are producing horses like Do Deuce, etc.
Mariasmon, wasn't Dust and Diamonds(USA) one of the best progeny Vindication(USA) ever sired at stud?
No I don't remember Dust and Diamonds.
But I do remember Vindication because I was still in the state while he was racing.
I was watching the BC Juvenile he won denying a highly-touted European invader Hold That Tiger!!!
Coincidentally, Hold That Tiger had been trained by Aidan O'Brien who sent Auguste Rodin to Japan Cup yesterday to be denied by Do Deuce, a grandson of Vindication!!
Is it only me who feels a strange coincidence?

Anyway, I'm very happy that Dust and Diamonds came all the way to Japan.
I wonder if Do Deuce has an impeccable pedigree, inheriting the stamina and the ''turn of foot'' from his sire-line as well as the devastating speed and the precociousness from his dam side.
I would think that Do Deuce has everything to be successful at stud.
And Dust and Diamonds will continue to be a great producer!!!!
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:44 pm

tachyon wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:40 am
mariasmon wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:01 am
tachyon wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:57 am Auguste Rodin was sweating before the race.
So he might not have been in his fine form today.

Super Do Deuce will surely be voted the 2024 Horse of Year.
He will run his final in the Arima Kinen before retiring to Shadai Stallion Station as a very popular stallion.
Would you say he's the best son of Heart's Cry? I liked Just a Way, so I might be biased toward him. I'm just happy that the US-bred/raced mares who've gone to Japan are producing horses like Do Deuce, etc.
Mariasmon, wasn't Dust and Diamonds(USA) one of the best progeny Vindication(USA) ever sired at stud?
No I don't remember Dust and Diamonds.
But I do remember Vindication because I was still in the state while he was racing.
I was watching the BC Juvenile he won denying a highly-touted European invader Hold That Tiger!!!
Coincidentally, Hold That Tiger had been trained by Aidan O'Brien who sent Auguste Rodin to Japan Cup yesterday to be denied by Do Deuce, a grandson of Vindication!!
Is it only me who feels a strange coincidence?

Anyway, I'm very happy that Dust and Diamonds came all the way to Japan.
I wonder if Do Deuce has an impeccable pedigree, inheriting the stamina and the ''turn of foot'' from his sire-line as well as the devastating speed and the precociousness from his dam side.
I would think that Do Deuce has everything to be successful at stud.
And Dust and Diamonds will continue to be a great producer!!!!
Dust and Diamonds or Broadway's Alibi would probably be Vindication's best progeny. I hoped he would be a good broodmare sire, as he was bred to a lot of quality mares his first few years at stud. I'm not sure if that's really played out, but he has Do Deuce and Elite Power to his credit.

I will be curious to see how Do Deuce's SW 1/2 sister Fulleren does as a producer. Looks like she had her first foal, a Chrysoberyl filly, this year. It's exciting to see that there is a Contrail 1/2 brother to Do Deuce in the pipeline, as well!

That IS a coincidence. I didn't even think about the Hold That Tiger/Vindication angle.
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mariasmon wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:44 pm
tachyon wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:40 am
mariasmon wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:01 am

Would you say he's the best son of Heart's Cry? I liked Just a Way, so I might be biased toward him. I'm just happy that the US-bred/raced mares who've gone to Japan are producing horses like Do Deuce, etc.
Mariasmon, wasn't Dust and Diamonds(USA) one of the best progeny Vindication(USA) ever sired at stud?
No I don't remember Dust and Diamonds.
But I do remember Vindication because I was still in the state while he was racing.
I was watching the BC Juvenile he won denying a highly-touted European invader Hold That Tiger!!!
Coincidentally, Hold That Tiger had been trained by Aidan O'Brien who sent Auguste Rodin to Japan Cup yesterday to be denied by Do Deuce, a grandson of Vindication!!
Is it only me who feels a strange coincidence?

Anyway, I'm very happy that Dust and Diamonds came all the way to Japan.
I wonder if Do Deuce has an impeccable pedigree, inheriting the stamina and the ''turn of foot'' from his sire-line as well as the devastating speed and the precociousness from his dam side.
I would think that Do Deuce has everything to be successful at stud.
And Dust and Diamonds will continue to be a great producer!!!!
Dust and Diamonds or Broadway's Alibi would probably be Vindication's best progeny. I hoped he would be a good broodmare sire, as he was bred to a lot of quality mares his first few years at stud. I'm not sure if that's really played out, but he has Do Deuce and Elite Power to his credit.

I will be curious to see how Do Deuce's SW 1/2 sister Fulleren does as a producer. Looks like she had her first foal, a Chrysoberyl filly, this year. It's exciting to see that there is a Contrail 1/2 brother to Do Deuce in the pipeline, as well!

That IS a coincidence. I didn't even think about the Hold That Tiger/Vindication angle.
He also has Exaggerator and Yaupon. As a broodmare sire he is sitting at 4% SW for foals of racing age. Is that good? I have no clue what a good SW% is for a broodmare sire. Buckpasser had 10%, Mr. Prospector 8%, Secretariat 5%.
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CHUKYO 11R
THE CHAMPIONS CUP(G1)

December 1, 2024, 1800m, Dirt, Post time 15:30
INT DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds & Up, Open Class, Value of race: 232,920,000 Yen

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2023 JRA dirt champion Lemon Pop runs his final race here.
Will he go out a winner before his retirement ceremony at Chukyo?
My sentimental favorite is the 7th favorite Crown Pride!
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Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:30 pm

rooting for lemon pop, crown pride & gaia force! 8-)

(okay and dura erede too :lol: )
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Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:04 pm

Go Lemon Pop!
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Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:41 am

Lemon Pop won! :D

It would have been great to see him go against Forever Young...
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Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:54 am

@Tachyon, do you know if Lemon Pop is set to go to stud at Darley Japan? Chad Schumer tweeted that, but I can't find anything else in English to confirm it.
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mariasmon wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:54 am @Tachyon, do you know if Lemon Pop is set to go to stud at Darley Japan? Chad Schumer tweeted that, but I can't find anything else in English to confirm it.
I'm sure that Lemon Pop will be one of the flagship stallions at Darley Japan along with Palace Malice! :D

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Lemon Pop's retirement ceremony
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tachyon wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:56 am
mariasmon wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:54 am @Tachyon, do you know if Lemon Pop is set to go to stud at Darley Japan? Chad Schumer tweeted that, but I can't find anything else in English to confirm it.
I'm sure that Lemon Pop will be one of the flagship stallions at Darley Japan along with Palace Malice! :D
Good to hear. I hope he shows up on their website soon.
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Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:28 pm

As a very big fan of Lemon Drop Kid, I was thrilled to see his son Lemon Pop go out a winner.
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Starine wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:28 pm As a very big fan of Lemon Drop Kid, I was thrilled to see his son Lemon Pop go out a winner.
Same. LDK has always been underrated as a sire. He may not have lit up the auction ring, but he would get you a runner. Plus, his 9.05 AWD is a rarity in this country.
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Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:17 pm

I need help remembering the horse I'm thinking of...

I seem to remember a Japanese racemare, or Japanese-owned racemare, that competed in some of the big European/UK races within the past few years. For some reason I associated her with the Arc but none of the names in fields from the last several years jumped out at me. Maybe she pointed to the Arc and had to scratch? I think she was chestnut.
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Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:36 pm

Mylute wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:17 pm I need help remembering the horse I'm thinking of...

I seem to remember a Japanese racemare, or Japanese-owned racemare, that competed in some of the big European/UK races within the past few years. For some reason I associated her with the Arc but none of the names in fields from the last several years jumped out at me. Maybe she pointed to the Arc and had to scratch? I think she was chestnut.

It might be too far back, but could it be Harp Star?
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MissNMecke wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:36 pm
Mylute wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:17 pm I need help remembering the horse I'm thinking of...

I seem to remember a Japanese racemare, or Japanese-owned racemare, that competed in some of the big European/UK races within the past few years. For some reason I associated her with the Arc but none of the names in fields from the last several years jumped out at me. Maybe she pointed to the Arc and had to scratch? I think she was chestnut.

It might be too far back, but could it be Harp Star?
The only other two mares I can remember from the last decade are Deirdre and Chrono Genesis.
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Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:54 pm

It was Deirdre! Thanks guys.
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