KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE POOL 2025

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[stark]

Anything under 50-1 in December except "all others" is absurd IMHO.

[Diver52]

Anything under 50-1 in December except "all others" is absurd IMHO.

Getaway Car is at 70-1. Otherwise, not tempted.

[stark]

Anything under 50-1 in December except "all others" is absurd IMHO.

Getaway Car is at 70-1. Otherwise, not tempted.

$700,000 Curlin
JJ Hernandez strings along
Ran second while favored over stablemate Citizen Bull who is a paltry 16-1 on this list.
Trainer knows how to get them to Kentucky.
Nice 6F work a couple of days ago.
Not a bad choice at all, good luck.

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Mythical win bets using Internet dollars are accepted here.....

Who do you like?

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[HB1994]

Hell, I don't think the winner has even started yet.

[stark]

Hell, I don't think the winner has even started yet.

Perhaps you would like to bet on the winning sire instead?

1 Always Dreaming 117-1
2 American Pharoah 46-1
3 Audible 155-1
4 Authentic 55-1
5 Blame 99-1
6 Candy Ride 74-1
7 City of Light 32-1
8 Constitution 37-1
9 Curlin 12-1
10 Flatter 69-1
11 Game Winner 33-1
12 Ghostzapper 150-1
13 Global Campaign 269-1
14 Goldencents 116-1
15 Good Magic 26-1
16 Gun Runner 13-1
17 Hard Spun 34-1
18 Into Mischief 5-1
19 Justify 23-1
20 Liam's Map 99-1
21 Lookin At Lucky 99-1
22 Malibu Moon 90-1
23 McKinzie 23-1
24 Medaglia d'Oro 21-1
25 Munnings 160-1
26 Not This Time 19-1
27 Nyquist 42-1
28 Omaha Beach 60-1
29 Practical Joke 21-1
30 Quality Road 38-1
31 Street Sense 31-1
32 Tapit 33-1
33 Tiz the Law 54-1
34 Tonalist 390-1
35 Uncle Mo 19-1
36 Union Rags 264-1
37 Vekoma 37-1
38 Vino Rosso 176-1
39 Volatile 69-1
40 All other sires 9-2

[HB1994]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and go with Into Mischief.

[Missbeholder]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and go with Into Mischief.

I don't know for sure because I'm far too lazy to do the necessary checking, but I think that if an Into Mischief wins the Derby, he would be the first stallion to sire more than two winners. Of course, one of his two existing winners was by DQ, but it's still a valid and official win.

150 or so runnings is a lot of Derbys, so maybe somebody knows of another one somewhere along the line that I'm either unaware of I have forgotten, so if anybody does know about another stallion with more than two, please set me straight.

[MissNMecke]

Not gonna go double check, but I think Bull Lea had three winners.

[Starine]

Not gonna go double check, but I think Bull Lea had three winners.

You're right: Citation, Iron Leige and Hill Gail.

[Flanders]

There are more that have 3 winners but the most recent was Bull Lea.

Falsetto, Sir Gallahad III, and Virgil

[Missbeholder]

Well, I guess I've been put in my place! Sorry I was so wrong! Just goes to show that you shouldn't post stuff like that unless you're willing to put in the time to check your facts. Thanks everybody for setting me straight! I'll try to be more diligent and careful next time!

[stark]

There are more that have 3 winners but the most recent was Bull Lea.

Falsetto, Sir Gallahad III, and Virgil

I think Curtis bet on Falsetto when he ran second in the Derby.

[Flanders]

Mythical win bets using Internet dollars are accepted here.....

Who do you like?

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Since I just don't feel like I've paid attention to horse racing much lately and have no clue who most of those 2yos are. I'll go with some mythical bets on Sires. I'll take Curlin and Gun Runner.

[MissNMecke]

Well, I guess I've been put in my place! Sorry I was so wrong! Just goes to show that you shouldn't post stuff like that unless you're willing to put in the time to check your facts. Thanks everybody for setting me straight! I'll try to be more diligent and careful next time!

:Look at it this way: Into Mischief is the only one of the bunch that might get FOUR.

[BaroqueAgain1]

Speaking of four....how many times has any other sire had four entrants in a single Kentucky Derby? Because Scat Daddy had Justify, Combatant, Flameaway and Mendelssohn in the 2018 Run For the Roses.
Scat Daddy died too young, and he still may be a highly-influential sire. What could have been for us if he'd had a long, healthy life?

[Tessablue]

I wouldn't even take 13-1 on Barnes still being in training by May.

Gun to my head, I guess I'd bet Rated by Merit at 44-1.

[mechaferret]

There's a plain inconsistency between the Derby runner and sire odds, with Gaming at 21-1 but Game Winner at 33-1. Are people just not paying attention? (I wasn't, sadly, or I would definitely have put something down.)

[Tessablue]

There's a plain inconsistency between the Derby runner and sire odds, with Gaming at 21-1 but Game Winner at 33-1. Are people just not paying attention? (I wasn't, sadly, or I would definitely have put something down.)

These pools are fairly small but the “fields” are enormous, which can make them swingy. There’s also a not-insignificant number of bettors who pay zero attention to breeding and pedigree.