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Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:50 pm

Private Mission → Flightline

Private Mission First F-T Mare to Cross $2M Threshold
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -threshold
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Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:24 am

Ramatuelle —> Wootton Bassett

Shame Coolmore didn’t buy to race her next year too. She was just getting better.

Edit: Opera Singer also going to Wootton Bassett
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Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:48 pm

Swall (½ to Drill, fam. of Satono Aladdin) → Flightline
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Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:09 am

Pride of Jenni(AUS) is expected to visit Equinox(JPN).

https://x.com/Racing/status/1855144941623951791
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Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:42 am

Going to 2025 newbie Petulante:

Lipa (full to Concrete Rose) [i/f to Nashville]
Screenwriter (dam ½ to Arravale) [i/f to McKinzie]
Charlote’s Star (Ashado fam.) [i/f to Gunite]
Batyah (Flanders fam.) [i/f to Up to the Mark]
She’s Brilliant (Electrify fam.) [i/f to Mage]
Fracing Allstar (½ to Summer Sunday) [i/f to Gunite]
Jaccaci (o/o Beat the Blues) [i/f to Vekoma]

https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... -petulante
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Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm

all going to Senor Buscador:

Beacon of Truth (dam is full to Spun Sugar and Daaher);
Golden Bell (granddam is Perfect Sting);
Moonlightning (½ to MG2p/G1w Quip, dam is ½ to Normandy Invasion);
Purrfectly Claire (dam is full to Unrivaled Belle);
Sarach (½ to MG1p All Included, granddam is Gorgeous);
Trappingsilver (½ to Heir Kitty, dam is ½ to the dam of Super Stock)
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Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:35 pm

brunanas wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:23 pm all going to Senor Buscador:

Beacon of Truth (dam is full to Spun Sugar and Daaher);
Golden Bell (granddam is Perfect Sting);
Moonlightning (½ to MG2p/G1w Quip, dam is ½ to Normandy Invasion);
Purrfectly Claire (dam is full to Unrivaled Belle);
Sarach (½ to MG1p All Included, granddam is Gorgeous);
Trappingsilver (½ to Heir Kitty, dam is ½ to the dam of Super Stock)
Interesting... I wonder where SB will stand.
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Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:46 pm

Charlee O (½ to Thorpedo Anna) → Good Magic
Sataves (dam of Thorpedo Anna) → Curlin

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/t ... -partners/
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Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:34 pm

Goodnight Olive -> Seize The Grey
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Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:55 pm

Nenikikamen23 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:34 pm Goodnight Olive -> Seize The Grey
Hmm, not crazy about the 3x3 to Smart Strike.
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HB1994 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:55 pm
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:34 pm Goodnight Olive -> Seize The Grey
Hmm, not crazy about the 3x3 to Smart Strike.
Tbh, I think Smart Strike close up multiple times, has worked well.
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Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:22 am

Some from Housatonic Bloodstock:

Brazen Persuasion (G3W) —> Bucchero
C’est Mardi (6xW) —> Army Mule
Why Not Tonight (SW) —> Prince of Monaco
Unrequited Love (½ to Local Motive) —> Honest Mischief
Wild For Love (dam of Local Motive) —> Charge It
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Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:35 pm

Izvestia wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:05 pm
HB1994 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:55 pm
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:34 pm Goodnight Olive -> Seize The Grey
Hmm, not crazy about the 3x3 to Smart Strike.
Tbh, I think Smart Strike close up multiple times, has worked well.
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Nenikikamen23 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:34 pm Goodnight Olive -> Seize The Grey
Seems like an odd pairing IMO. This will be her first foal (according to the Breeder's Cup eligibility site) and you would think they would send her to a proven stallion, or a stallion who may not be around much longer.

Or even Good Magic, considering Stewart is her owner and he's had success with him, plus you keep the Smart Strike inbreeding.
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Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:10 pm

KatieK101 wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:47 pm
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:34 pm Goodnight Olive -> Seize The Grey
Seems like an odd pairing IMO. This will be her first foal (according to the Breeder's Cup eligibility site) and you would think they would send her to a proven stallion, or a stallion who may not be around much longer.

Or even Good Magic, considering Stewart is her owner and he's had success with him, plus you keep the Smart Strike inbreeding.
She will have a foal before this. She is in foal to Not This Time for 2025. :)
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Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:11 pm

KatieK101 wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:47 pm
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:34 pm Goodnight Olive -> Seize The Grey
Seems like an odd pairing IMO. This will be her first foal (according to the Breeder's Cup eligibility site) and you would think they would send her to a proven stallion, or a stallion who may not be around much longer.

Or even Good Magic, considering Stewart is her owner and he's had success with him, plus you keep the Smart Strike inbreeding.
IMO, its only odd because we aren't used to seeing 6m mares go to 30k sires. We are used to them going to a very small group of stallions. I'm just glad she isn't going to Into Mischief. Besides that I don't really care. He was clear that he wanted her to go to an Arrogate, so he picked Seize The Grey. Its kind of funny though cause he said he had to make sure to book now so he would get into the book. And someone said, They'd have let you in anyway with that mare. Which I believe as well.

Stewart hasn't had success with Good Magic, that was Puca and her previous owner Case Clay. If I was him I would avoid the Curlin line with her. Ghostzapper mares do not cross well with the Curlin line. There is not a single blacktype performer from the cross. He crosses with Awesome Again mares but it just hasn't worked with GZ.
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Flanders wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:11 pm
KatieK101 wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:47 pm
Nenikikamen23 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:34 pm Goodnight Olive -> Seize The Grey
Seems like an odd pairing IMO. This will be her first foal (according to the Breeder's Cup eligibility site) and you would think they would send her to a proven stallion, or a stallion who may not be around much longer.

Or even Good Magic, considering Stewart is her owner and he's had success with him, plus you keep the Smart Strike inbreeding.
IMO, its only odd because we aren't used to seeing 6m mares go to 30k sires. We are used to them going to a very small group of stallions. I'm just glad she isn't going to Into Mischief. Besides that I don't really care. He was clear that he wanted her to go to an Arrogate, so he picked Seize The Grey. Its kind of funny though cause he said he had to make sure to book now so he would get into the book. And someone said, They'd have let you in anyway with that mare. Which I believe as well.

Stewart hasn't had success with Good Magic, that was Puca and her previous owner Case Clay. If I was him I would avoid the Curlin line with her. Ghostzapper mares do not cross well with the Curlin line. There is not a single blacktype performer from the cross. He crosses with Awesome Again mares but it just hasn't worked with GZ.
I mean, I would still find it odd if they sent her to a 6-figure first-year stallion. I always expect mares that accomplished to go to proven stallions for their first mating (Songbird and Arrogate caught me off guard, for example). I liked that Beholder and Blue Prize were sent to proven stallions before their connections took shots with unproven stallions. Ofc they aren't my horses and there isn't a right or wrong way to do things, and it does make things interesting, but it is what I usually expect to see unless the stallion is, like, Flightline or Justify level-hype.

It is nice that she isn't immediately being sent to IM. Bor-ing. And I didn't know Stewart had said he wanted her to go to an Arrogate son, so knowing that makes more sense.
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Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:35 pm

HB1994 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:55 pm Hmm, not crazy about the 3x3 to Smart Strike.
I wonder why they went with Seize the Grey over Arcangelo? With Arcangelo you could add linebreeding to Mr. Prospector and Deputy Minister without having a 3x3 with Smart Strike. Both Arcangelo and Seize the Grey are A+ nicks.
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Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:08 am

Honor Code wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:35 pm
HB1994 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:55 pm Hmm, not crazy about the 3x3 to Smart Strike.
I wonder why they went with Seize the Grey over Arcangelo? With Arcangelo you could add linebreeding to Mr. Prospector and Deputy Minister without having a 3x3 with Smart Strike. Both Arcangelo and Seize the Grey are A+ nicks.
He did a more in depth breeding report than just nicking. And it appears that the inbreeding was considered "good".

https://x.com/jstewartrr/status/1863379 ... 61/photo/1

Also I don't know if he said it himself or just other people saying it. But I've seen numerous times that Arcangelo wasn't used because he wasn't sound when he retired.
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Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:54 am

I'm not a fan of Stewart at all because he's a a** but he seriously needs to stop going by just the reports and 'pedigree' and people who probably want more then more money and following the hype with new horses. The one thing with "Liklihood of producing a stakes horse" is just no.

You could have bred Ruffian to Secretariat, obviously ignoring the inbreeding there, and there'd still be a chance that horse would be no more than a allowance.

Itl'l probably never happen because for some reason Stewart started his own stupid a** feud with repole but sending Goodnight Olive to Uncle Mo would be a better choice by far, shame too because I'd taken Uncle Mo over Into Mischief any and everyday.
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