Surprised that Rey de Oro is still here, he is doing really badly.tachyon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 am Shadai Stallion Station has announced stud fees for 2025 today!
Euinox, Kitasan Black and Kizuna are the most expensive stallions at Shadai.
Sire Name (Sire of Sire) : stud fee 2025 in JPY --- (stud fee 2024 in JPY)
Admire Mars(JPN) (Daiwa Major) : 5,000,000 (2,500,000)
Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway) : 4,000,000 (6,000,000)
Chrysoberyl(JPN) (Gold Allure) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Contrail(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 18,000,000 (15,000,000)
Danon Kingly(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti) : 5,000,000 (6,000,000)
Efforia(JPN) (Epiphaneia) : 4,000,000 (4,000,000)
Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 12,000,000 (15,000,000)
Equinox(JPN) (Kitasan Black) 20,000,000 (20,000,000)
Grenadier Guards(JPN) (Frankel) 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Harbinger(GB) (Dansili) : private (private)
Hot Rod Charlie(USA) (Oxbow) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide) : 20,000,000 (20,000,000)
Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 20,000,000 (12,000,000)
Le Vent Se Leve(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 10,000,000 (12,000,000)
Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero) : 8,000,000 (8,000,000)
Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse) : 2,000,000 (3,000,000)
Nadal(USA) (Blame) : 10,000,000 (3,000,000)
Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold) : 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Poetic Flare(IRE) (Dawn Approach) : private (private)
Rey de Oro(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 2,500,000 (5,000,000)
Rulership (King Kamehameha) : 4,000,000 (3,500,000)
Salios (Heart's Cry) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju) : 1,500,000 (2,000,000):
Saturnalia(JPN) (Lord Kanaloa) : 10,000,000 (8,000,000)
Schenell Meister(GER) 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Siskin(USA) (First Defence) : 3,000,000 (2,000,000)
Suave Richard(JPN) (Heart's Cry) : 15,000,000 (15,000,000)
New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry) : relocated to Yushun
https://shadai-ss.com/cms/wp-content/up ... 2n_SSS.pdf
2025 Fees
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Really?Palace Malice wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:15 amSurprised that Rey de Oro is still here, he is doing really badly.tachyon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 am Shadai Stallion Station has announced stud fees for 2025 today!
Euinox, Kitasan Black and Kizuna are the most expensive stallions at Shadai.
Sire Name (Sire of Sire) : stud fee 2025 in JPY --- (stud fee 2024 in JPY)
Admire Mars(JPN) (Daiwa Major) : 5,000,000 (2,500,000)
Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway) : 4,000,000 (6,000,000)
Chrysoberyl(JPN) (Gold Allure) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Contrail(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 18,000,000 (15,000,000)
Danon Kingly(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti) : 5,000,000 (6,000,000)
Efforia(JPN) (Epiphaneia) : 4,000,000 (4,000,000)
Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 12,000,000 (15,000,000)
Equinox(JPN) (Kitasan Black) 20,000,000 (20,000,000)
Grenadier Guards(JPN) (Frankel) 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Harbinger(GB) (Dansili) : private (private)
Hot Rod Charlie(USA) (Oxbow) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide) : 20,000,000 (20,000,000)
Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 20,000,000 (12,000,000)
Le Vent Se Leve(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 10,000,000 (12,000,000)
Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero) : 8,000,000 (8,000,000)
Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse) : 2,000,000 (3,000,000)
Nadal(USA) (Blame) : 10,000,000 (3,000,000)
Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold) : 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Poetic Flare(IRE) (Dawn Approach) : private (private)
Rey de Oro(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 2,500,000 (5,000,000)
Rulership (King Kamehameha) : 4,000,000 (3,500,000)
Salios (Heart's Cry) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju) : 1,500,000 (2,000,000):
Saturnalia(JPN) (Lord Kanaloa) : 10,000,000 (8,000,000)
Schenell Meister(GER) 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Siskin(USA) (First Defence) : 3,000,000 (2,000,000)
Suave Richard(JPN) (Heart's Cry) : 15,000,000 (15,000,000)
New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry) : relocated to Yushun
https://shadai-ss.com/cms/wp-content/up ... 2n_SSS.pdf
I was not surprised.
Rey de Oro is a second crop sire whose babies started to race last year.
True his 2yos were very disappointing last year and his number of mares covered plummeted this spring accordingly.
Breeders don’t like stallions who lack in precociousness.
But his first crop started to do somewhat better turning to 3yo.
He has not sired any graded winner, but you can't forget the fact that his 3yos hit the board in both the Japanese Derby and the Kikuka Sho.
Even if Rey de Oro has not lived up to the expectation, Shadai can still hope that he is either a classic-type or a better-with-ages stallion.
Also, his result in the 2024 JRHA Select Sale was still not so bad.
And, in addition to those, Rey de Oro is a Shadai's homebred and their beloved Japanese Derby winner.
Overall, it's not surprising that Shadai gives him another year or two before really giving up on him.
--> let's see.
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Awww
Nadal(USA) has already been fully booked with his new fee of JPY10,000,000!!!
He is really a red-hot stallion!!!
Only other Shadai stallions who have already been fully booked are Equinox(JPN)(JPY20,000,000), Efforia(JPN)(JPY4,000,000) and Salios(JPN)(JPY2,000,000) as of today!
Nadal(USA) has already been fully booked with his new fee of JPY10,000,000!!!
He is really a red-hot stallion!!!
Only other Shadai stallions who have already been fully booked are Equinox(JPN)(JPY20,000,000), Efforia(JPN)(JPY4,000,000) and Salios(JPN)(JPY2,000,000) as of today!
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Any idea why HRC would be so low? He hasn't had his first runners yet. Could that be it?
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I'm curious to see what Four Wheel Drive and Cafe Pharoah are standing for
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I would guess so. It’s the notoriously hard-to-fill book of a third year stallion, plus most American stallion import numbers do fall off at some point - until they prove themselves. A bargain fee could get some more feet in door. Heavens knows that Shadai has no shortage of other options.
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Paulick’s take on the best value sires for 2024 - stallions standing for under $20,000
https://paulickreport.com/features/all- ... OhpBU5k1eg
https://paulickreport.com/features/all- ... OhpBU5k1eg
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Northview Stallions Fees for 2025:
Endorsed - $5k (same)
Engage - $5k (same)
First Mondays - Private (same)
Galawi - $2k (same)
Golden Lad - $4.5k ($5k)
Great Notion - Private ($7.5k) **Fully booked for 2025**
Hoppertunity - $3.5k ($5k)
Uncle Lino - $3.5k ($4k)
Endorsed - $5k (same)
Engage - $5k (same)
First Mondays - Private (same)
Galawi - $2k (same)
Golden Lad - $4.5k ($5k)
Great Notion - Private ($7.5k) **Fully booked for 2025**
Hoppertunity - $3.5k ($5k)
Uncle Lino - $3.5k ($4k)
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gone from 2024 (may be more gone, I'm having a hard time finding a 2024 roster):othybat_99 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:17 pm Northview Stallions Fees for 2025:
Endorsed - $5k (same)
Engage - $5k (same)
First Mondays - Private (same)
Galawi - $2k (same)
Golden Lad - $4.5k ($5k)
Great Notion - Private ($7.5k) **Fully booked for 2025**
Hoppertunity - $3.5k ($5k)
Uncle Lino - $3.5k ($4k)
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Irish War Cry (move was already announced)
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Calumet, according to the Bloodhorse stallion register
Stallion (sire of stallion) - 2025 fee
Big Blue Kitten (Kitten's Joy) - Private (does not have RMB since 2023)
Bravazo (Awesome Again) - $5,000
Channel Cat (English Channel) - $7,500
Hightail (Mineshaft) - $7,500
Keen Ice (Curlin) - $7,500
Lexitonian (Speightstown) - $7,500
Oxbow (Awesome Again) - $7,500
Producer (GB) (Dutch Art (GB)) - Private (does not have RMB since 2021)
These aren't necessarily.. missing or anything, they are still on Calumets website, but did not have a 2025 fee announced
Bal A Bali (BRZ) (Put It Back) - sold to Brazil to my understanding
Ransom the Moon (Malibu Moon) - ?
Real Solution (Kitten's Joy) - ?
True Timber (Mineshaft) - ?
Stallion (sire of stallion) - 2025 fee
Big Blue Kitten (Kitten's Joy) - Private (does not have RMB since 2023)
Bravazo (Awesome Again) - $5,000
Channel Cat (English Channel) - $7,500
Hightail (Mineshaft) - $7,500
Keen Ice (Curlin) - $7,500
Lexitonian (Speightstown) - $7,500
Oxbow (Awesome Again) - $7,500
Producer (GB) (Dutch Art (GB)) - Private (does not have RMB since 2021)
These aren't necessarily.. missing or anything, they are still on Calumets website, but did not have a 2025 fee announced
Bal A Bali (BRZ) (Put It Back) - sold to Brazil to my understanding
Ransom the Moon (Malibu Moon) - ?
Real Solution (Kitten's Joy) - ?
True Timber (Mineshaft) - ?
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stelladaniella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:48 pm Calumet, according to the Bloodhorse stallion register
Stallion (sire of stallion) - 2025 fee
Big Blue Kitten (Kitten's Joy) - Private (does not have RMB since 2023)
Bravazo (Awesome Again) - $5,000
Channel Cat (English Channel) - $7,500
Hightail (Mineshaft) - $7,500
Keen Ice (Curlin) - $7,500
Lexitonian (Speightstown) - $7,500
Oxbow (Awesome Again) - $7,500
Producer (GB) (Dutch Art (GB)) - Private (does not have RMB since 2021)
These aren't necessarily.. missing or anything, they are still on Calumets website, but did not have a 2025 fee announced
Bal A Bali (BRZ) (Put It Back) - sold to Brazil to my understanding
Ransom the Moon (Malibu Moon) - ?
Real Solution (Kitten's Joy) - ?
True Timber (Mineshaft) - ?
Calumet is a mystery. I know they've been trying to offload Kitten for a while. I feel bad for the stallions who go to Calumet, they never get a real chance at succeeding. Due to either not covering or barely covering mares.
Bal a Bali was sold, here's an article though it's in Portuguese :
https://jcb.com.br/home/noticias/450728 ... AAeSXrdn-g
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I doubt it, just because when he disappeared off their site, he got an export on the JC.Akitaperson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:27 pmBloodhorse still lists him at Calumet for 2024, so maybe he's still there?
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I really don't know anything about Calumet's current ownership/management, but their roster is pretty sad for such a storied name.
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He isnt there.Akitaperson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:27 pmBloodhorse still lists him at Calumet for 2024, so maybe he's still there?
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Thank you! That was my guess at the time because they collect sons of A.P. Indy. Like seriously they have so many over there.Akitaperson wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:24 amFound him! Equineline has him listed as being sent to Saudia Arabia