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Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:15 am

tachyon wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 am Shadai Stallion Station has announced stud fees for 2025 today!
Euinox, Kitasan Black and Kizuna are the most expensive stallions at Shadai.

Sire Name (Sire of Sire) : stud fee 2025 in JPY --- (stud fee 2024 in JPY)

Admire Mars(JPN) (Daiwa Major) : 5,000,000 (2,500,000)
Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway) : 4,000,000 (6,000,000)
Chrysoberyl(JPN) (Gold Allure) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Contrail(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 18,000,000 (15,000,000)
Danon Kingly(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti) : 5,000,000 (6,000,000)
Efforia(JPN) (Epiphaneia) : 4,000,000 (4,000,000)
Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 12,000,000 (15,000,000)
Equinox(JPN) (Kitasan Black) 20,000,000 (20,000,000)
Grenadier Guards(JPN) (Frankel) 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Harbinger(GB) (Dansili) : private (private)
Hot Rod Charlie(USA) (Oxbow) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide) : 20,000,000 (20,000,000)
Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 20,000,000 (12,000,000)
Le Vent Se Leve(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 10,000,000 (12,000,000)
Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero) : 8,000,000 (8,000,000)
Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse) : 2,000,000 (3,000,000)
Nadal(USA) (Blame) : 10,000,000 (3,000,000)
Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold) : 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Poetic Flare(IRE) (Dawn Approach) : private (private)
Rey de Oro(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 2,500,000 (5,000,000)
Rulership (King Kamehameha) : 4,000,000 (3,500,000)
Salios (Heart's Cry) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju) : 1,500,000 (2,000,000):
Saturnalia(JPN) (Lord Kanaloa) : 10,000,000 (8,000,000)
Schenell Meister(GER) 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Siskin(USA) (First Defence) : 3,000,000 (2,000,000)
Suave Richard(JPN) (Heart's Cry) : 15,000,000 (15,000,000)
New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry) : relocated to Yushun

https://shadai-ss.com/cms/wp-content/up ... 2n_SSS.pdf
Surprised that Rey de Oro is still here, he is doing really badly.
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Palace Malice wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:15 am
tachyon wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 am Shadai Stallion Station has announced stud fees for 2025 today!
Euinox, Kitasan Black and Kizuna are the most expensive stallions at Shadai.

Sire Name (Sire of Sire) : stud fee 2025 in JPY --- (stud fee 2024 in JPY)

Admire Mars(JPN) (Daiwa Major) : 5,000,000 (2,500,000)
Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway) : 4,000,000 (6,000,000)
Chrysoberyl(JPN) (Gold Allure) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Contrail(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 18,000,000 (15,000,000)
Danon Kingly(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti) : 5,000,000 (6,000,000)
Efforia(JPN) (Epiphaneia) : 4,000,000 (4,000,000)
Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 12,000,000 (15,000,000)
Equinox(JPN) (Kitasan Black) 20,000,000 (20,000,000)
Grenadier Guards(JPN) (Frankel) 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Harbinger(GB) (Dansili) : private (private)
Hot Rod Charlie(USA) (Oxbow) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide) : 20,000,000 (20,000,000)
Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 20,000,000 (12,000,000)
Le Vent Se Leve(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 10,000,000 (12,000,000)
Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero) : 8,000,000 (8,000,000)
Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse) : 2,000,000 (3,000,000)
Nadal(USA) (Blame) : 10,000,000 (3,000,000)
Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold) : 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Poetic Flare(IRE) (Dawn Approach) : private (private)
Rey de Oro(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 2,500,000 (5,000,000)
Rulership (King Kamehameha) : 4,000,000 (3,500,000)
Salios (Heart's Cry) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju) : 1,500,000 (2,000,000):
Saturnalia(JPN) (Lord Kanaloa) : 10,000,000 (8,000,000)
Schenell Meister(GER) 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Siskin(USA) (First Defence) : 3,000,000 (2,000,000)
Suave Richard(JPN) (Heart's Cry) : 15,000,000 (15,000,000)
New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry) : relocated to Yushun

https://shadai-ss.com/cms/wp-content/up ... 2n_SSS.pdf
Surprised that Rey de Oro is still here, he is doing really badly.
Really?
I was not surprised.
Rey de Oro is a second crop sire whose babies started to race last year.
True his 2yos were very disappointing last year and his number of mares covered plummeted this spring accordingly.
Breeders don’t like stallions who lack in precociousness.
But his first crop started to do somewhat better turning to 3yo.
He has not sired any graded winner, but you can't forget the fact that his 3yos hit the board in both the Japanese Derby and the Kikuka Sho.
Even if Rey de Oro has not lived up to the expectation, Shadai can still hope that he is either a classic-type or a better-with-ages stallion.
Also, his result in the 2024 JRHA Select Sale was still not so bad.
And, in addition to those, Rey de Oro is a Shadai's homebred and their beloved Japanese Derby winner.
Overall, it's not surprising that Shadai gives him another year or two before really giving up on him.
--> let's see.
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Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:31 am

Awww

Nadal(USA) has already been fully booked with his new fee of JPY10,000,000!!!
He is really a red-hot stallion!!!
Only other Shadai stallions who have already been fully booked are Equinox(JPN)(JPY20,000,000), Efforia(JPN)(JPY4,000,000) and Salios(JPN)(JPY2,000,000) as of today!
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Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:10 am

Sad to see Bricks and Mortar and Hot Rod Charlie so low. Wish they were here.
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:00 am

Any idea why HRC would be so low? He hasn't had his first runners yet. Could that be it?
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I'm curious to see what Four Wheel Drive and Cafe Pharoah are standing for
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:51 pm

Mylute wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:00 am Any idea why HRC would be so low? He hasn't had his first runners yet. Could that be it?
I would guess so. It’s the notoriously hard-to-fill book of a third year stallion, plus most American stallion import numbers do fall off at some point - until they prove themselves. A bargain fee could get some more feet in door. Heavens knows that Shadai has no shortage of other options.
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:55 pm

Paulick’s take on the best value sires for 2024 - stallions standing for under $20,000

https://paulickreport.com/features/all- ... OhpBU5k1eg
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:17 pm

Northview Stallions Fees for 2025:
Endorsed - $5k (same)
Engage - $5k (same)
First Mondays - Private (same)
Galawi - $2k (same)
Golden Lad - $4.5k ($5k)
Great Notion - Private ($7.5k) **Fully booked for 2025**
Hoppertunity - $3.5k ($5k)
Uncle Lino - $3.5k ($4k)
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:34 pm

othybat_99 wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:17 pm Northview Stallions Fees for 2025:
Endorsed - $5k (same)
Engage - $5k (same)
First Mondays - Private (same)
Galawi - $2k (same)
Golden Lad - $4.5k ($5k)
Great Notion - Private ($7.5k) **Fully booked for 2025**
Hoppertunity - $3.5k ($5k)
Uncle Lino - $3.5k ($4k)
gone from 2024 (may be more gone, I'm having a hard time finding a 2024 roster):

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Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:48 pm

Calumet, according to the Bloodhorse stallion register

Stallion (sire of stallion) - 2025 fee

Big Blue Kitten (Kitten's Joy) - Private (does not have RMB since 2023)
Bravazo (Awesome Again) - $5,000
Channel Cat (English Channel) - $7,500
Hightail (Mineshaft) - $7,500
Keen Ice (Curlin) - $7,500
Lexitonian (Speightstown) - $7,500
Oxbow (Awesome Again) - $7,500
Producer (GB) (Dutch Art (GB)) - Private (does not have RMB since 2021)

These aren't necessarily.. missing or anything, they are still on Calumets website, but did not have a 2025 fee announced
Bal A Bali (BRZ) (Put It Back) - sold to Brazil to my understanding
Ransom the Moon (Malibu Moon) - ?
Real Solution (Kitten's Joy) - ?
True Timber (Mineshaft) - ?
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:55 pm

They really hate pricing too many stallions below $7,500. I guess it keeps the workload consistent for their nominations manager… wouldn’t want the phone to ring too much, or at all.
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stelladaniella wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:48 pm Calumet, according to the Bloodhorse stallion register

Stallion (sire of stallion) - 2025 fee

Big Blue Kitten (Kitten's Joy) - Private (does not have RMB since 2023)
Bravazo (Awesome Again) - $5,000
Channel Cat (English Channel) - $7,500
Hightail (Mineshaft) - $7,500
Keen Ice (Curlin) - $7,500
Lexitonian (Speightstown) - $7,500
Oxbow (Awesome Again) - $7,500
Producer (GB) (Dutch Art (GB)) - Private (does not have RMB since 2021)

These aren't necessarily.. missing or anything, they are still on Calumets website, but did not have a 2025 fee announced
Bal A Bali (BRZ) (Put It Back) - sold to Brazil to my understanding
Ransom the Moon (Malibu Moon) - ?
Real Solution (Kitten's Joy) - ?
True Timber (Mineshaft) - ?

Calumet is a mystery. I know they've been trying to offload Kitten for a while. I feel bad for the stallions who go to Calumet, they never get a real chance at succeeding. Due to either not covering or barely covering mares.

Bal a Bali was sold, here's an article though it's in Portuguese :


https://jcb.com.br/home/noticias/450728 ... AAeSXrdn-g
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:35 pm

Speaking of Calumet, did anyone ever figure out where Raison d'Etat went? He stood 2023 at Calumet then was sold(?) and exported.
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Flanders wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:35 pm Speaking of Calumet, did anyone ever figure out where Raison d'Etat went? He stood 2023 at Calumet then was sold(?) and exported.
Bloodhorse still lists him at Calumet for 2024, so maybe he's still there?
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Akitaperson wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:27 pm
Flanders wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:35 pm Speaking of Calumet, did anyone ever figure out where Raison d'Etat went? He stood 2023 at Calumet then was sold(?) and exported.
Bloodhorse still lists him at Calumet for 2024, so maybe he's still there?
I doubt it, just because when he disappeared off their site, he got an export on the JC.
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Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:46 am

I really don't know anything about Calumet's current ownership/management, but their roster is pretty sad for such a storied name.
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Akitaperson wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:27 pm
Flanders wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:35 pm Speaking of Calumet, did anyone ever figure out where Raison d'Etat went? He stood 2023 at Calumet then was sold(?) and exported.
Bloodhorse still lists him at Calumet for 2024, so maybe he's still there?
He isnt there.
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Flanders wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:35 pm Speaking of Calumet, did anyone ever figure out where Raison d'Etat went? He stood 2023 at Calumet then was sold(?) and exported.
Found him! Equineline has him listed as being sent to Saudia Arabia
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Akitaperson wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:24 am
Flanders wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:35 pm Speaking of Calumet, did anyone ever figure out where Raison d'Etat went? He stood 2023 at Calumet then was sold(?) and exported.
Found him! Equineline has him listed as being sent to Saudia Arabia
Thank you! That was my guess at the time because they collect sons of A.P. Indy. Like seriously they have so many over there.
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