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Tessablue
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Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:44 pm

Happy to see him back. He looked really good out there.
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Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:47 pm

Tessablue wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:44 pm Happy to see him back. He looked really good out there.
Agreed! Happy to see him back in the winner's circle. I had such high hopes for him last year!
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Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:56 pm

Tapit Trice to the Jockey Club Gold Cup, along with stablemate Kingsbarn. Shaping up to be a very good race, and I still have hope that Arthur's Ride may make an appearance.
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Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:33 am

Starine wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:56 pm Tapit Trice to the Jockey Club Gold Cup, along with stablemate Kingsbarn. Shaping up to be a very good race, and I still have hope that Arthur's Ride may make an appearance.
Without the PA Derby we would be seeing plenty of 3 yo there too. That race has really hurt the fall NYRA championship series.
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Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:32 pm

Squeaky wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:33 am
Starine wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:56 pm Tapit Trice to the Jockey Club Gold Cup, along with stablemate Kingsbarn. Shaping up to be a very good race, and I still have hope that Arthur's Ride may make an appearance.
Without the PA Derby we would be seeing plenty of 3 yo there too. That race has really hurt the fall NYRA championship series.
It’s now the Fall Championship Prep Season.
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Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:04 pm

Squeaky wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:33 am
Starine wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:56 pm Tapit Trice to the Jockey Club Gold Cup, along with stablemate Kingsbarn. Shaping up to be a very good race, and I still have hope that Arthur's Ride may make an appearance.
Without the PA Derby we would be seeing plenty of 3 yo there too. That race has really hurt the fall NYRA championship series.
The JCGC is ran a week after the Travers now. They had to move it or it would have lost its G1 status, like the Woodward did. Its that horses are retired to stud at the end of their 3yo year, race less and some trainers like to train them up to the BC instead of having another race, that hurts the fall races. I'm not fan of 3yo races after a certain point in the year either. But the PA Derby always got nice horses even before it was a G1 and to me it just took the place of the Super Derby. When the Super Derby was a G1 it was ran the 3rd weekend in September, 3yo, 1m purse(same as the PA Derby now). Sunday Silence, Unbridled, and Concern used the Super Derby as their last prep for the Classic. Tiznow won the Super Derby but raced in the Goodwood before the Classic. Alysheba and Seeking The Gold both finished 2nd in the Classic as 3yos coming out of it and Gate Dancer and Precisionist finished 3rd.

Trainers are always going to be an easier option than facing older horses.
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Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:57 pm

Flanders wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:04 pm
Squeaky wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:33 am
Starine wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:56 pm Tapit Trice to the Jockey Club Gold Cup, along with stablemate Kingsbarn. Shaping up to be a very good race, and I still have hope that Arthur's Ride may make an appearance.
Without the PA Derby we would be seeing plenty of 3 yo there too. That race has really hurt the fall NYRA championship series.
The JCGC is ran a week after the Travers now. They had to move it or it would have lost its G1 status, like the Woodward did. Its that horses are retired to stud at the end of their 3yo year, race less and some trainers like to train them up to the BC instead of having another race, that hurts the fall races. I'm not fan of 3yo races after a certain point in the year either. But the PA Derby always got nice horses even before it was a G1 and to me it just took the place of the Super Derby. When the Super Derby was a G1 it was ran the 3rd weekend in September, 3yo, 1m purse(same as the PA Derby now). Sunday Silence, Unbridled, and Concern used the Super Derby as their last prep for the Classic. Tiznow won the Super Derby but raced in the Goodwood before the Classic. Alysheba and Seeking The Gold both finished 2nd in the Classic as 3yos coming out of it and Gate Dancer and Precisionist finished 3rd.

Trainers are always going to be an easier option than facing older horses.
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Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:21 am

Reincarnate (Good Magic) was second in the Cougar II H. (G3) to gelding Midnight Mammoth (Midnight Lute).
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Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:09 pm

Very happy to see a big strong Whitney field! Especially thrilled that Arthur's Ride will be stepping up into G1 company. Should be a fun race.

1 Post Time
2 Disarm
3 National Treasure
4 Warrior Johny
5 First Mission
6 Il Miracolo
7 Crupi
8 Tumbarumba
9 Bright Future
10 Skippylongstocking
11 Arthur's Ride
12 Charge It

Turf sprint phenom Cogburn also returns in the Troy next weekend.
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Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:48 am

Johannes Stretches to Nine Furlongs in Eddie Read Win
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Big fan of this guy.
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Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:29 am

Mylute wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 9:08 am Anyone know what's up with Rattle N Roll?
He started working again recently.
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Sun Aug 04, 2024 3:13 pm

Next takes the Birdstone by 22 lengths.

I'm not familiar with international racing but would Next be a good candidate to ship out for distance races? Seems like there would be higher value races out there somewhere for him to compete.
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Sun Aug 04, 2024 3:24 pm

Cigarillo wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 3:13 pm Next takes the Birdstone by 22 lengths.

I'm not familiar with international racing but would Next be a good candidate to ship out for distance races? Seems like there would be higher value races out there somewhere for him to compete.
Would love to see him try turf marathons
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Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:19 pm

Next is so good right now. I'm curious what he could do at 1-1/4 miles but it doesn't sound like the connections have any intention of shortening him up.
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Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:52 am

Arthur’s Ride aiming for the JCGC https://www.drf.com/news/arthurs-ride-w ... -mott-says
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Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:26 pm

Starine wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:19 pm Next is so good right now. I'm curious what he could do at 1-1/4 miles but it doesn't sound like the connections have any intention of shortening him up.
Next started his racing career as a turf miler, but he started losing then they kept shortening him up until he wasn't winning anymore.
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Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:27 am

Let's give a special shoutout to Komorebino Omoide, a 4 y/o colt by California Chrome o/o Decennial (Trippi) who was bred in Japan by...Perry Martin and brought to the United States.

He is a 3x winner and hit the board in his last two starts, which were both stakes. He was 3rd in the G3 West Virginia Governor's Cup last weekend.
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Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:14 pm

Mylute wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:27 am Let's give a special shoutout to Komorebino Omoide, a 4 y/o colt by California Chrome o/o Decennial (Trippi) who was bred in Japan by...Perry Martin and brought to the United States.

He is a 3x winner and hit the board in his last two starts, which were both stakes. He was 3rd in the G3 West Virginia Governor's Cup last weekend.
KOMOREBINO OMOIDE!
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Sun Aug 11, 2024 7:25 pm

Carl Spackler wins the Fourstardave!!! I love his name.
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Sun Aug 11, 2024 10:27 pm

Nations Pride won the Arlington Million (G1).
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