2024 First Crop Sires

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Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:07 pm

Out On Bail (Tiz the Law) became the 4th winner for his sire, the third over grass.
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Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:26 pm

brunanas wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:07 pm Out On Bail (Tiz the Law) became the 4th winner for his sire, the third over grass.
Pulpit never ran on grass, but he was a good grass sire - and he’s passed that on to Tapit, and now Constitution

Of course I’m following HAP, who’s has a second and a third in his two turf runners. I’ve always thought he’d be a good turf sire (it’s very early, of course)

Even though Vekoma and Complexity have garnered the most kudos - rightly so- I think by the end of the year we’re going to see some of the other first crop sires take flight.
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Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:33 pm

i think most of the currently slow ones will get better as the distances grow. imho from the ones with good expectations, the only ones that were supposed to be having some good runners already and aren't are McKinzie and Improbable.
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Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:46 pm

brunanas wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:33 pm i think most of the currently slow ones will get better as the distances grow. imho from the ones with good expectations, the only ones that were supposed to be having some good runners already and aren't are McKinzie and Improbable.
I agree, and they’re only slow in terms of winners (they’ve had on the board finishes/promising runs). We’ll see it start to take shape when we start getting more 6F and longer and fewer 5 1/2F races
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Thu Jul 25, 2024 12:40 pm

brunanas wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 11:37 am CA-based first crop sire Phantom Boss (Shackleford) has been gelded and pensioned per the Stallion Rankings list. he has 2 winners from 4 starters among 6 registered 2yos.
Phantom Boss now has 4 winners from 5 starters. Admittedly a small sample, but a pretty impressive strike rate.
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Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:13 pm

Admire Mars(JPN)(Daiwa Major) sired his 4th JRA winner, as his 2yo filly Embroidery(JPN)[o/o Rottenmeier(JPN) by Kurofune(USA)] broke her maiden at second ask by 7 length in a 2yo track record at Niigata R1 1800m turf on July 27th 2024.
It's a good start for the Shadai resident first-season sire!!

https://en.netkeiba.com/db/horse/2022105185/
2: 1-1-0

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Sun Jul 28, 2024 5:33 am

Tower of London(JPN)(Raven's Pass) got off to a good start, too, siring his fourth JRA winner today.
His 2yo colt Arlington Row(JPN) [o/o Yumeno Tokimeki(JPN) by Marvelous Sunday(JPN)] broke his maiden at second ask in a 2yo track record in Niigata R1 1400m turf.
https://en.netkeiba.com/db/horse/2022105921/
2: 1-1-0
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Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:47 pm

Honor A.P. had another winner today when Shootersgottashoot won his debut at Monmouth ...

I’m so happy, and this on top of a colt who ran yesterday at the Spa who I think will be very good (on dirt, though he ran well on the turf) in Spurgeon
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Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:10 am

Bridle A Butterfly first winner for Darby Dan's freshman sire Country House
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... ntry-house

2 y/o gelding (o/o Sly Storm by Storm Cat) wins 5 furlong turf race at Gulfstream, margin 3½ lengths and final time :55.46.
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Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:37 am

Complexity's insane hot streak continues with Black Forza winning the G2 Richmond Stakes over 6f at Glorious Goodwood. Black Forza is out of Harlee Honey (Harlan's Holiday).

Sold as a weanling at KEENOV22 for $27,000, as a yearling at FTKJUL23 for $65,000, then as a two year old in training at GOUKB24 for $273,903.
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Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:44 am

Northport wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:37 am Complexity's insane hot streak continues with Black Forza winning the G2 Richmond Stakes over 6f at Glorious Goodwood. Black Forza is out of Harlee Honey (Harlan's Holiday).

Sold as a weanling at KEENOV22 for $27,000, as a yearling at FTKJUL23 for $65,000, then as a two year old in training at GOUKB24 for $273,903.
All 3 of his stakes winners have been on different surfaces as well. I'm happy for Airdrie, hopefully they can keep him. They couldn't keep Harlan's Holiday.
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Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:00 pm

Governor Sam (improbable) won the Tyro Stakes at Monmouth.
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Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:13 pm

Complexity(USA) sired his first JRA winner from first starter, as Shin Forever(USA)[ o/o Praising(USA) by Pulpit(USA)] won his debut at Niigata R4 1600m turf Newcomer on August 3rd 2024.
https://en.netkeiba.com/db/horse/2022110114/

Like another impressive debut winner of the day Shin Believe(USA)(Constitution), Shin Forever is a graduate of OBS Sales, owned by Susumu Fujita and trained by Hideyuki Mori.
https://x.com/SaraChristineG/status/1819182884399243276
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Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:52 am

Saturnalia(JPN)(Lord Kanaloa) sired his fourth JRA winner, too, as Jezero(JPN) [o/o L'Archetto(JPN) by Falbrav(IRE)] won his debut at Niigata R3 1800m turf newcomer beating a good competition on August 4th 2024, tying Admire Mars and Tower of London.
Jezero is a 1/2 (3/4) to G1 winner Stelvio(JPN).
https://en.netkeiba.com/db/horse/2022105122/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lufqjdN_rbw

I'm not so thrilled with the precociousness of a stallion.
But it will be interesting to see which Japanese stallion will take out the best freshman sire title this year.
Nadal(USA) will be up there, too.
2yo races are becoming more and more important even in Japan.
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Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:46 am

First Season Sire ranking (JRA only) as of August 4th 2024

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Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:29 pm

Game Winner off the Scheid with Gaming at Del Mar for Baffert/Pegram. Big bruising dark bay colt looks a lot like his dad, but I couldn't see if he paddled as much as he stayed on his wrong lead most of the stretch. :)
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Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:48 pm

Diver52 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:29 pm Game Winner off the Scheid with Gaming at Del Mar for Baffert/Pegram. Big bruising dark bay colt looks a lot like his dad, but I couldn't see if he paddled as much as he stayed on his wrong lead most of the stretch. :)
Hopefully Rank isn’t getting a complex from finishing behind Getaway Car and Gaming, lol

Next time!

Race came up fast, I believe…
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Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:07 am

Slewfan2 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:48 pm
Diver52 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:29 pm Game Winner off the Scheid with Gaming at Del Mar for Baffert/Pegram. Big bruising dark bay colt looks a lot like his dad, but I couldn't see if he paddled as much as he stayed on his wrong lead most of the stretch. :)
Hopefully Rank isn’t getting a complex from finishing behind Getaway Car and Gaming, lol

Next time!

Race came up fast, I believe…
MRH (and me) had Authentic Spirit who showed good speed but faded to sixth. Owners are already chucking him out.
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Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:28 am

Diver52 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:07 am
Slewfan2 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:48 pm
Diver52 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:29 pm Game Winner off the Scheid with Gaming at Del Mar for Baffert/Pegram. Big bruising dark bay colt looks a lot like his dad, but I couldn't see if he paddled as much as he stayed on his wrong lead most of the stretch. :)
Hopefully Rank isn’t getting a complex from finishing behind Getaway Car and Gaming, lol

Next time!

Race came up fast, I believe…
MRH (and me) had Authentic Spirit who showed good speed but faded to sixth. Owners are already chucking him out.
Already? Aww, that’s way too early …
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Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:27 pm

Authentic got his 3rd winner today in Authentic Strike (Smart Strike mare) who won by a neck at Ellis.
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