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Tessablue
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Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:01 pm

Nice effort, he's a beautiful horse!
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Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:15 pm

Tessablue wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:01 pm Nice effort, he's a beautiful horse!
And big! Looked like he towered over Stronghold.
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Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:48 pm

Sounds like the Pennsylvania Derby may be a potential target for Dragoon Guard. Love seeing Arrogate get another good one.
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Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:00 pm

Tessablue wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:01 pm Nice effort, he's a beautiful horse!
Best looking Arrogate I have seen. I’m sure Juddmonte would love to have a son of Arro to have at stud. I hope he runs at SAR.
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Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:27 pm

Henro [Collected x Street Minstrel] wins the Iowa Derby over Just A Touch who was a nose or head back in second. Northern Flame was 3rd.

Just A Touch really likes to be second.
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Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:33 pm

Henro might be half the size of Just a Touch, but he put in a neat effort there. Just a Touch got the outside stalking trip he wanted but just couldn't separate. Not quite the move forward that it looked like he had in him earlier this year.

And speaking of horses who might have been set back by the Derby, I saw that Endlessly was last in the Belmont Derby today. A real shame--I never got the chance to post it, but I was really disgusted by Rispoli's ride in the Derby on that horse. Just whaling on him fifteen lengths back in the stretch while the horse was trying his heart out on a surface he hated. No need for that sort of crap at all, and I saw he was back on today. Bleh.
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Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:30 pm

https://www.drf.com/news/beckman-sendin ... ht-travers


There’s no time for a prep - so no surprise that he’s going straight to the Travers. He didn’t run great in the Risen Star off a layoff, so hopefully things are different

Can the racing gods just let this colt get even a little luck?
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stark wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:40 pm

He didn't belong in that G3 race as the longest shot on the board at 35/1.

But he did come back to work 5F yesterday in a minute flat, so he's okay.
I agree that Mighty Message is not a graded stakes horse unless he improves a lot. He will probably finish the year trying to go through the allowance conditions and maybe some listed stakes races.
Still don't know where MM is racing next. Maybe they should try him on turf. He does have a lot of Northern Dancer in his pedigree.

I think he is a nice colt, just not as talented as other 3 year old sons of Goldencents, Mystik Dan and Gould's Gold.

Probably a tough decision as to where to race Mighty Message next. He has won two races including an entry level allowance race. He apparently would not be competitive in a graded stakes race. The next level allowance race at the major tracks (Saratoga, Del Mar, etc.) would be tough. I notice that older horses seem to dominate those races. It is hard to find a (N2X) race for 3yo's any more this year at the big tracks.

MM has a good trainer. It should be interesting to see where he races next.
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So, where do you race a horse like Mighty Message? MM was bought for 230K last year. I am sure they don't want to put him in a claiming race, at least not yet. A graded stakes race is apparently out. A (N2X) allowance race probably is too. A 6 figure non-graded stakes race might be good if they can find a soft spot, but where is it? Anyone got any ideas?
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Saban wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:26 pm So, where do you race a horse like Mighty Message? MM was bought for 230K last year. I am sure they don't want to put him in a claiming race, at least not yet. A graded stakes race is apparently out. A (N2X) allowance race probably is too. A 6 figure non-graded stakes race might be good if they can find a soft spot, but where is it? Anyone got any ideas?
The Ellis Park Derby next month is $250k and shouldn't be too bad since the big boys are running in WV/Haskell/Jim Dandy/Travers at that point. Or they could shorten him up to 7f in the Robert R Hilton at Charles Town with a nice $500k purse.
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Miss Woodford wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:46 pm
Saban wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:26 pm So, where do you race a horse like Mighty Message? MM was bought for 230K last year. I am sure they don't want to put him in a claiming race, at least not yet. A graded stakes race is apparently out. A (N2X) allowance race probably is too. A 6 figure non-graded stakes race might be good if they can find a soft spot, but where is it? Anyone got any ideas?
The Ellis Park Derby next month is $250k and shouldn't be too bad since the big boys are running in WV/Haskell/Jim Dandy/Travers at that point. Or they could shorten him up to 7f in the Robert R Hilton at Charles Town with a nice $500k purse.
Thanks for the input.

Those races mentioned would be good, if MM can be competitive in them.
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Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:58 pm

Mystic Dan unlikely for Travers , moved back to Keeneland. Wonder if something up with him? Says PA Derby more likely. Also STG to Jim Dandy vs Haskell which I think is a good move. https://www.drf.com/news/mystik-dan-unl ... -keeneland
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Squeaky wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:58 pm Mystic Dan unlikely for Travers , moved back to Keeneland. Wonder if something up with him? Says PA Derby more likely. Also STG to Jim Dandy vs Haskell which I think is a good move. https://www.drf.com/news/mystik-dan-unl ... -keeneland
Dornoch is going to Haskell?!?
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Izvestia wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:17 pm
Squeaky wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:58 pm Mystic Dan unlikely for Travers , moved back to Keeneland. Wonder if something up with him? Says PA Derby more likely. Also STG to Jim Dandy vs Haskell which I think is a good move. https://www.drf.com/news/mystik-dan-unl ... -keeneland
Dornoch is going to Haskell?!?
Yes. At this point there aren't many. Dornoch, Fierceness, Mindframe, Tuscan Sky, Timberlake and Sea Streak. And I don't see Pletcher/Repole sending 2 horses when they could race one in the Jim Dandy.
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Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:50 pm

Baffert horse?
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Izvestia wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:50 pm Baffert horse?
Muth was declared out and Parenting was going in his place but he's now also out with a minor setback per DRF.
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Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:32 am

Both Muth and Parenting worked 5F this week--but where is Maymun?
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Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:42 pm

Itza Mirrakle son of Arrogate wins a maiden race at SAR impressively for Maggie’s husband Tom Morley
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Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:51 pm

Diver52 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:32 am Both Muth and Parenting worked 5F this week--but where is Maymun?
There’s a milk carton with a photo of Nysos on it. If you turn it around to the other side, you’ll find Maymun’s picture. It’s part of the Alta Dena Dairy’s, they weren’t two of the good ones series.
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Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:55 pm

Curtis wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:51 pm
Diver52 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:32 am Both Muth and Parenting worked 5F this week--but where is Maymun?
There’s a milk carton with a photo of Nysos on it. If you turn it around to the other side, you’ll find Maymun’s picture. It’s part of the Alta Dena Dairy’s, they weren’t two of the good ones series.
Ha. They do seem to disappear into the black hole of “ what could have been “ horses. Maybe a year from now we might see them again and there will be no explanation given for their absence besides “ minor issues”.
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