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Weren't there some rules about jockey agents???
Jose Santos Jr.
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Jockey Agent representing: J.Leparoux, R.Gutierrez, E.Esquivel, D.Cabrera, F.Jara, K.Desormeaux, F.Manrrique, J.Hernandez, F.Giles, & C.Elliott
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Jose Santos Jr.
@joesantos_33
Jockey Agent representing: J.Leparoux, R.Gutierrez, E.Esquivel, D.Cabrera, F.Jara, K.Desormeaux, F.Manrrique, J.Hernandez, F.Giles, & C.Elliott
https://twitter.com/joesantos_33
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Drayden Van Dyke guides Practically Dark to his maiden win in R8 at Gulfstream Park, his 2nd victory on the card and 5th since switching his tack to South Florida at the behest of trainer Saffie Joseph Jr. earlier this week.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
- Cigarillo
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That's great to hear. I've always wondered why he races sparingly out here in California.
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Speaking of saffie. White abarrio's owners were really unhappy with him running fifth in the met mile. The result of that is they've yanked the horse from dutrow effective immediately and have returned him to saffie Joseph jr
- Diver52
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Out of the frying pan. (back) into the fire.
I ran marathons. I saw the Taj Mahal by Moonlight. I drove Highway 1 in a convertible. I petted Zenyatta.
- Palace Malice
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- Flanders
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NY Gaming Commission is having a hearing this fall(September 18th) to see if they should revoke Steve Assmussen's ability to own and train horses in the state. Its because its about an every other year thing where the Feds have to make him pay his employees proper wages. I'm pretty sure it was the 5th time in like 10 years.
This is not an article its a PDF of the hearing notice
https://www.gaming.ny.gov/pdf/06.13.24. ... 1-2024.pdf
Edit to add article:
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/n ... s-license/
This is not an article its a PDF of the hearing notice
https://www.gaming.ny.gov/pdf/06.13.24. ... 1-2024.pdf
Edit to add article:
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/n ... s-license/
- Squeaky
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I have a question re: how stable workers are paid. When I was a groom in the 80’s we were paid a weekly salary and there was no hourly wage, overtime etc. Did this change to an hourly wage? How do stable workers in an outdoor casual barn setting vs an office or business where you punch in and out with a time clock kerp track of their hours? How are quiet time hours counted if you work typical barn hours of 5 am- 11 am then come back to feed 4-6 if you don’t have one in that afternoon)? I am just curious there is a lot of chatter about this on X -some say there are only paid less that 10.00/ hr others say they are making thousands, wearing Gucci shoes and gold chains and sending it all back to relatives in Mexico ( their words, not mine). All I know is it is very hard physical labor with a fair degree of danger with unpredictable high-strung animals and I have the utmost respect for what they do, having done it during college. Grooming 5-6 horses a day is alot. I would come home exhausted.
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I saw at some point, somewhere in an article, during one of these complaints or verdicts, they are required to have a time clock now. I don't necessarily mean it was one against Assmussen, a lot of trainers get in trouble for this kind of thing.Squeaky wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:58 pm I have a question re: how stable workers are paid. When I was a groom in the 80’s we were paid a weekly salary and there was no hourly wage, overtime etc. Did this change to an hourly wage? How do stable workers in an outdoor casual barn setting vs an office or business where you punch in and out with a time clock kerp track of their hours? How are quiet time hours counted if you work typical barn hours of 5 am- 11 am then come back to feed 4-6 if you don’t have one in that afternoon)? I am just curious there is a lot of chatter about this on X -some say there are only paid less that 10.00/ hr others say they are making thousands, wearing Gucci shoes and gold chains and sending it all back to relatives in Mexico ( their words, not mine). All I know is it is very hard physical labor with a fair degree of danger with unpredictable high-strung animals and I have the utmost respect for what they do, having done it during college. Grooming 5-6 horses a day is alot. I would come home exhausted.
I found one article mentioning it:
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/c ... iolations/
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I can't say what's happening in other states, but California has been really cracking down on labor classifications and how people are paid. I got caught up in it myself several years before I retired back in 2020. My employer (a corporate entity located in Ohio) classified me as somewhere "in between " exempt and non-exempt, where they paid me my hourly rate for any hours I worked over 40 in a week, but didn't pay me the extra half-time in overtime pay. Good old California caught up with those good folks in Ohio, and I ended up getting a nice little surprise check for about $6K bucks in back overtime wages!Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:17 pmI saw at some point, somewhere in an article, during one of these complaints or verdicts, they are required to have a time clock now. I don't necessarily mean it was one against Assmussen, a lot of trainers get in trouble for this kind of thing.Squeaky wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:58 pm I have a question re: how stable workers are paid. When I was a groom in the 80’s we were paid a weekly salary and there was no hourly wage, overtime etc. Did this change to an hourly wage? How do stable workers in an outdoor casual barn setting vs an office or business where you punch in and out with a time clock kerp track of their hours? How are quiet time hours counted if you work typical barn hours of 5 am- 11 am then come back to feed 4-6 if you don’t have one in that afternoon)? I am just curious there is a lot of chatter about this on X -some say there are only paid less that 10.00/ hr others say they are making thousands, wearing Gucci shoes and gold chains and sending it all back to relatives in Mexico ( their words, not mine). All I know is it is very hard physical labor with a fair degree of danger with unpredictable high-strung animals and I have the utmost respect for what they do, having done it during college. Grooming 5-6 horses a day is alot. I would come home exhausted.
I found one article mentioning it:
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/c ... iolations/
The thing is, in California any way, the classification of employees. An exempt employee is paid a flat salary for whatever the pay period is, but because they are generally management or supervisory employees, they are not compensated extra for any hours they work that exceeds 40 in a week. They usually have subordinate employees reporting to them, and have decision-making responsibilities in the operations they are responsible for.
The non-exempt employees are, frankly, the "grub" workers that report to all those exempt guys and gals. They are the ones that must be paid time-and-a-half for every hour they work over 8 hours in a day or 40 in a week. Again, I can't say that it's the same in every state outside of California, but I think that's where these trainers that are getting nailed for these payroll violations are getting in trouble. They're classifying their hot walkers and grooms as "exempt" employees and paying them a set salary per pay period instead of an hourly wage. Yes, according to the law, in California anyway, the employees are being short-paid. But for the most part, the trainers involved are getting nailed because of ignorance and not necessarily because of being willfully nefarious!
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Jockey Frankie Dettori, who called off his retirement late last year, will be based in Saratoga this summer when the meet opens on July 11.
Agent Ron Anderson will book mounts for Dettori as well as Joel Rosario at Saratoga. John Velazquez, who Anderson had worked for since 2020, has retained Kiaran McLaughlin as his agent. McLaughlin also represents Luis Saez, the Belmont Stakes-winning rider who will be based in Saratoga as well. By rule, agents are limited to representing two journeyman riders at one time.
Agent Ron Anderson will book mounts for Dettori as well as Joel Rosario at Saratoga. John Velazquez, who Anderson had worked for since 2020, has retained Kiaran McLaughlin as his agent. McLaughlin also represents Luis Saez, the Belmont Stakes-winning rider who will be based in Saratoga as well. By rule, agents are limited to representing two journeyman riders at one time.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
- Squeaky
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Interesting case for our forum’s legal experts. Probably shouldn’t have random people wandering around the shedrow feeding horses treats, at least without supervision and direction on which biters to avoid. I wonder if she was bitten in the face? https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -pony-bite
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''Kazushi Kimura to ride the Del Mar meet''
https://www.drf.com/news/kazushi-kimura ... l-mar-meet
And thanks Bob Baffert and Phil D’Amato for giving him a chance!!
''Kazushi Kimura to ride the Del Mar meet''
https://www.drf.com/news/kazushi-kimura ... l-mar-meet
Good for Kimura!“It’s a new challenge,” Kimura said. “We’ll see what happens. Going to a new place is tough for business. I’ve got the opportunities to ride.”
“I hope I can have a couple of rides for the Breeders’ Cup. I’m really looking forward to it.”
And thanks Bob Baffert and Phil D’Amato for giving him a chance!!
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Kentucky Court: Buff Bradley, Churchill Downs Not Liable For Pony Bite
https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/ ... -pony-bite
" ̶C̶h̶a̶r̶l̶i̶e̶ Henry bit me, ̶C̶h̶a̶r̶l̶i̶e̶ Henry bit my finger!"
https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/ ... -pony-bite
" ̶C̶h̶a̶r̶l̶i̶e̶ Henry bit me, ̶C̶h̶a̶r̶l̶i̶e̶ Henry bit my finger!"
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Asmussen assistant, Toby Sheets, found dead in Greece.
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/a ... in-greece/
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/a ... in-greece/
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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The crew on FSN2 just did a touching tribute to Toby Sheets, and Maggie Wolfendale's remembrances brought tears. He was well-loved by everyone, but especially close to Maggie and her family. A big loss for the the NY backstretch.