2024 Japanese Racing
- lurkey mclurker
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i feel bad for masked diva but wow ten happy rose!! and her groom was sooooo excited when he met them in the tunnel, it was too cute!!! <3
via @Akauni294 on twitter
via @Akauni294 on twitter
- Flanders
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Saw some interesting tweets from Kate Hunter after someone was bemoaning the fact that the Japanese horses shipped home after the Derby.
I paraphrased a bit but have included the 3 posts I think were the most relevant:
Japanese horses have a minimum 5 day export/import quarantine period. If being imported(returned) to Japan, they have another 3 weeks before they are allowed to return to a training center. The export to race is only for 90 days. If they go over the 90 days, it triggers a penalty quarantine on return to Japan that is anywhere from 90 to 120 days. Because Forever Young shipped to Saudi Arabia, Dubai, then the US, he had to return to Japan because he was very near the 90 day limit.
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 8774277384
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 3280968866
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 5010351104
Because of the almost month he is not allowed to train when returned to Japan, he will go on break for 60 days total. Then be put back in training with a racing in the fall as the goal.
I paraphrased a bit but have included the 3 posts I think were the most relevant:
Japanese horses have a minimum 5 day export/import quarantine period. If being imported(returned) to Japan, they have another 3 weeks before they are allowed to return to a training center. The export to race is only for 90 days. If they go over the 90 days, it triggers a penalty quarantine on return to Japan that is anywhere from 90 to 120 days. Because Forever Young shipped to Saudi Arabia, Dubai, then the US, he had to return to Japan because he was very near the 90 day limit.
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 8774277384
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 3280968866
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 5010351104
Because of the almost month he is not allowed to train when returned to Japan, he will go on break for 60 days total. Then be put back in training with a racing in the fall as the goal.
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So does this mean that, if Forever Young had won the Derby (which he came within two noses away from doing), he wouldn't have been able to run in the Preakness, much less the Belmont? At least without jeopardizing his ability to run a viable Fall campaign? Just because of quarantine rules that are draconian by normal international practices?Flanders wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 4:30 pm Saw some interesting tweets from Kate Hunter after someone was bemoaning the fact that the Japanese horses shipped home after the Derby.
I paraphrased a bit but have included the 3 posts I think were the most relevant:
Japanese horses have a minimum 5 day export/import quarantine period. If being imported(returned) to Japan, they have another 3 weeks before they are allowed to return to a training center. The export to race is only for 90 days. If they go over the 90 days, it triggers a penalty quarantine on return to Japan that is anywhere from 90 to 120 days. Because Forever Young shipped to Saudi Arabia, Dubai, then the US, he had to return to Japan because he was very near the 90 day limit.
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 8774277384
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 3280968866
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 5010351104
Because of the almost month he is not allowed to train when returned to Japan, he will go on break for 60 days total. Then be put back in training with a racing in the fall as the goal.
It's a moot point now because of those two noses, but wouldn't the JRA feel pretty badly to miss out on an opportunity to win the American Triple Crown? Chances are looking pretty good that a Japanese horse will win the Derby in the next few years. Looks like they may have to plan to do it with a horse that doesn't go to Saudi Arabia and then Dubai first! Or make some adjustments to their quarantine protocols!
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I think he would have been allowed to run in the Preakness before the 90 days, but not the Belmont. I would assume they would have just trained/raced him in the US and taken the extended quarantine later.Missbeholder wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 5:48 pmSo does this mean that, if Forever Young has won the Derby (which he came within two noses away from doing), he wouldn't have been able to run in the Preakness, much less the Belmont? At least without jeopardizing his ability to run a viable Fall campaign? Just because of quarantine rules that are draconian by normal international practices?Flanders wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 4:30 pm Saw some interesting tweets from Kate Hunter after someone was bemoaning the fact that the Japanese horses shipped home after the Derby.
I paraphrased a bit but have included the 3 posts I think were the most relevant:
Japanese horses have a minimum 5 day export/import quarantine period. If being imported(returned) to Japan, they have another 3 weeks before they are allowed to return to a training center. The export to race is only for 90 days. If they go over the 90 days, it triggers a penalty quarantine on return to Japan that is anywhere from 90 to 120 days. Because Forever Young shipped to Saudi Arabia, Dubai, then the US, he had to return to Japan because he was very near the 90 day limit.
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 8774277384
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 3280968866
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 5010351104
Because of the almost month he is not allowed to train when returned to Japan, he will go on break for 60 days total. Then be put back in training with a racing in the fall as the goal.
It's a moot point now because of those two noses, but wouldn't the JRA feel pretty badly to miss out on an opportunity to win the American Triple Crown? Chances are looking pretty good that a Japanese horse will win the Derby in the next few years. Looks like they may have to plan to do it with a horse that doesn't go to Saudi Arabia and then Dubai first! Or make some adjustments to their quarantine protocols!
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Yes!!!lurkey mclurker wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 1:32 pm i feel bad for masked diva but wow ten happy rose!! and her groom was sooooo excited when he met them in the tunnel, it was too cute!!! <3
via @Akauni294 on twitter
That's a fabulous photo of Ten Happy Rose and her connections.
And we were especially happy for her jockey Akihide Tsumura.
He had been very-well known by the racegoers and his colleagues in Japan as an excellent rider.
But he had just been unlucky.
His speech in the post-race interview after winning his first G1 title in the Victoria Mile was so moving that reduced me to tears, too.
https://twitter.com/risugurashun/status ... 5087988174
“I had long been waiting and working hard to be able to stand on this podium as a G1 winner and it feels really great that I have finally made it. The race development, from the start up until the final corner, exceeded my imagination and it was just a matter of how much the mare could extend her strides from there. When we were actually leading in the last 200 meters, it was almost unbelievable. I am grateful for the fans that have been rooting for me and I hope this is just the start of more victories like this,” commented jockey Akihide Tsumura.
"I've finally won a G1 (21st year as JRA jockey), but I don't want this to be the last - I want to experience again that roar from the crowd coming back after the race.”
Go Tsumura, Go!
- lurkey mclurker
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via twitter, vid clip at the link https://twitter.com/LongBallToNoOne/sta ... 2668283289
I thought he looked good, obvs green but with a nice fluid stride!Graham Pavey
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First public work for 2c AARON’S ROD (Epiphaneia x Almond Eye) under Lemaire (right of screen)
On the chip at Miho
#thefuture
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I wonder if these links below may interest you, too.Flanders wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 4:30 pm Saw some interesting tweets from Kate Hunter after someone was bemoaning the fact that the Japanese horses shipped home after the Derby.
I paraphrased a bit but have included the 3 posts I think were the most relevant:
Japanese horses have a minimum 5 day export/import quarantine period. If being imported(returned) to Japan, they have another 3 weeks before they are allowed to return to a training center. The export to race is only for 90 days. If they go over the 90 days, it triggers a penalty quarantine on return to Japan that is anywhere from 90 to 120 days. Because Forever Young shipped to Saudi Arabia, Dubai, then the US, he had to return to Japan because he was very near the 90 day limit.
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 8774277384
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 3280968866
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/17 ... 5010351104
Because of the almost month he is not allowed to train when returned to Japan, he will go on break for 60 days total. Then be put back in training with a racing in the fall as the goal.
These are regulations set by Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries in Japan.
https://www.maff.go.jp/aqs/hou/require/ ... ehorse.pdf
https://www.maff.go.jp/aqs/languages/info.html
The great Kate Hunter also explained the rules in detail for those Japanese horsemen who want to race their horses abroad in her homepage below.
(This is written in Japanese, but could be read through a translator)
https://www.marugairacing.com/horseprep
By the way, the export to race had only been 60 days until they extend it to 90 days in March 30th, 2022.
Let's hope they will become more generous in the future!
- Squeaky
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Full brother to Cave Rock won in Japan https://x.com/a_evers/status/1791696064908808693?s=46
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He was very impressive!Squeaky wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 9:43 am Full brother to Cave Rock won in Japan https://x.com/a_evers/status/1791696064908808693?s=46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHTJgmAhy_E
- CoronadosQuest
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Wow he looks so much like him too!Squeaky wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 9:43 am Full brother to Cave Rock won in Japan https://x.com/a_evers/status/1791696064908808693?s=46
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TOKYO 11R
THE YUSHUN HIMBA (JAPANESE OAKS)(G1)
May 19, 2024, 2400m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT F&M DSN, Weight for Age, 3-Year-Olds, Open Class, Value of race: 325,190,000 Yen
#JRA Yushun Himba (Japanese Oaks) (G1, 15:40, May 19) https://japanracing.jp/en/racing/schedu ... 9oaks.html
Barrier Draw https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240517.html
http://japanracing.jp/en/racing/result/
Preview https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240514.html
Comments https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240517-02.html
Data Analysis
https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240513.html
#HorseRacing #YushunHimba #japan https://pic.x.com/gorqbsebeq
Go, Stellenbosch, for the Oka Sho - Yushun Himba double!
I will put some money on a longshot Mi Anhelo (Duramente x Mi Sueno) who is ridden by Akihide Tsumura, too.
THE YUSHUN HIMBA (JAPANESE OAKS)(G1)
May 19, 2024, 2400m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT F&M DSN, Weight for Age, 3-Year-Olds, Open Class, Value of race: 325,190,000 Yen
#JRA Yushun Himba (Japanese Oaks) (G1, 15:40, May 19) https://japanracing.jp/en/racing/schedu ... 9oaks.html
Barrier Draw https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240517.html
http://japanracing.jp/en/racing/result/
Preview https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240514.html
Comments https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240517-02.html
Data Analysis
https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240513.html
#HorseRacing #YushunHimba #japan https://pic.x.com/gorqbsebeq
Go, Stellenbosch, for the Oka Sho - Yushun Himba double!
I will put some money on a longshot Mi Anhelo (Duramente x Mi Sueno) who is ridden by Akihide Tsumura, too.
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2nd favorite Cervinia(JPN), 2021F. Harbinger(GB) x Cecchino(JPN) by King Kamehameha(JPN), got up late under Christophe Lemaire to deny Stellenbosch(JPN) and win the G1 Yushun Himba 2400m turf at Tokyo on May 19th 2024.
Harbinger has now sired seven individual G1 winners, three of whom are o/o King Kamehameha mares.
Cecchino was the runner-up in the 2016 Yushun Himba.
-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VamNiWqhr2I
-- JRA review
''Cervinia Claims Yushun Himba, Second Jewel of Fillies’ Triple Crown''
https://japanracing.jp/en/racing/news_m ... /2024.html
Cervinia(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001337947/
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Harbinger has now sired seven individual G1 winners, three of whom are o/o King Kamehameha mares.
Cecchino was the runner-up in the 2016 Yushun Himba.
-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VamNiWqhr2I
-- JRA review
''Cervinia Claims Yushun Himba, Second Jewel of Fillies’ Triple Crown''
https://japanracing.jp/en/racing/news_m ... /2024.html
Cervinia(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001337947/
5: 3-1-0
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I wonder where the name comes from?tachyon wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 11:04 amHe was very impressive!Squeaky wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 9:43 am Full brother to Cave Rock won in Japan https://x.com/a_evers/status/1791696064908808693?s=46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHTJgmAhy_E
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AshurbanipalSqueaky wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 11:37 amI wonder where the name comes from?tachyon wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 11:04 amHe was very impressive!Squeaky wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 9:43 am Full brother to Cave Rock won in Japan https://x.com/a_evers/status/1791696064908808693?s=46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHTJgmAhy_E
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She is so pretty! I love the big blazetachyon wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 6:33 am 2nd favorite Cervinia(JPN), 2021F. Harbinger(GB) x Cecchino(JPN) by King Kamehameha(JPN), got up late under Christophe Lemaire to deny Stellenbosch(JPN) and win the G1 Yushun Himba 2400m turf at Tokyo on May 19th 2024.
Harbinger has now sired seven individual G1 winners, three of whom are o/o King Kamehameha mares.
Cecchino was the runner-up in the 2016 Yushun Himba.
-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VamNiWqhr2I
-- JRA review
''Cervinia Claims Yushun Himba, Second Jewel of Fillies’ Triple Crown''
https://japanracing.jp/en/racing/news_m ... /2024.html
Cervinia(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001337947/
5: 3-1-0
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Amante Bianco(JPN)(C3. Henny Hughes) will bypass the Jpn1 Tokyo Derby, 2nd leg of the Dirt Triple Crown, due to ringbone.
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001332805/
https://news.sp.netkeiba.com/?pid=news_view&no=264992
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001332805/
https://news.sp.netkeiba.com/?pid=news_view&no=264992
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When saddle horse shopping for my niece years ago, we had to pass on a handsome buckskin due to ringbone. IIRC, that is a chronic condition. Does this mean that Amante Blanco will have to be retired? Or is there treatment now for ringbone?