2024 Fees

[Akitaperson]

Gunite retires to Ashford for a fee of $35,000.

https://coolmore.com/farms/america/news ... to-ashford

And now in the latest TDN release and on their site - he's standing for $40,000

Now if Ashford would finally tell everyone what the heck happened to Classic Empire everything would be great.

(I know hes got an import on record)

[Justahorse]

Gunite retires to Ashford for a fee of $35,000.

https://coolmore.com/farms/america/news ... to-ashford

And now in the latest TDN release and on their site - he's standing for $40,000

Now if Ashford would finally tell everyone what the heck happened to Classic Empire everything would be great.

(I know hes got an import on record)

He's going to South Korea I thought

[Akitaperson]

And now in the latest TDN release and on their site - he's standing for $40,000

Now if Ashford would finally tell everyone what the heck happened to Classic Empire everything would be great.

(I know hes got an import on record)

He's going to South Korea I thought

Based on a cryptic Twitter post saying he was there's been zero actual clues since

[Northport]

Bay Bridge - €6,000 - new to Haras Du Mesnil in France as a dual purpose stallion

[brunanas]

the only move is Capri, who stood for €2,500 at Grange Stud and has been moved to Willow Wood Farm.

[tachyon]

-- Darley Japan

Sire Name (Sire of Sire) : stud fee 2024 in JPY --- (stud fee 2023 in JPY)

Admire Moon(JPN) (End Sweep) : private (500,000)
Adayar(IRE) (Frankel) : 1,800,000 new
American Patriot(USA) (War Front) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Fine Needle(JPN) (Admire Moon) : 1,800,000 (2,000,000)
Furioso(JPN) (Brian's Time) : 500,000 (1,000,000)
Hawkbill(USA) (Kitten's Joy) : 500,000 (1,000,000)
Hukum(IRE) (Sea The Stars) : 1,200,000 new
Palace Malice(USA) (Curlin) : 3,500,000 new
Pyro(USA) (Pulpit) : 4,000,000 (4,000,000)
Talismanic(GB) (Medaglia d'Oro) : 1,200,000 (1,500,000)
Thunder Snow(IRE) (Helmet) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Tower of London(JPN) (Raven's Pass) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Will Take Charge(USA) (Unbridled's Song) : 1,200,000 (1,200,000)
Yoshida(JPN) (Heart's Cry) : 1,500,000 new

[Akitaperson]

Does anyone know what Van Gogh and Four Wheel drive are standing for next year?

I've been looking but can't find anything

[Flanders]

Does anyone know what Van Gogh and Four Wheel drive are standing for next year?

I've been looking but can't find anything

I'm assuming these are right as a lot of stallions don't have fees listed yet but they both do.

https://arion.co.nz/StallionsRoster/Sta ... rList.aspx

Four Wheel Drive - ¥1,200,000
Van Gogh - ¥2,000,000

[Akitaperson]

Does anyone know what Van Gogh and Four Wheel drive are standing for next year?

I've been looking but can't find anything

I'm assuming these are right as a lot of stallions don't have fees listed yet but they both do.

https://arion.co.nz/StallionsRoster/Sta ... rList.aspx

Four Wheel Drive - ¥1,200,000
Van Gogh - ¥2,000,000

Thank you I wonder what they're half brother Cafe Pharoah will stand for he doesn't have a fee yet

[stelladaniella]

Verifying - $10,000

[tachyon]

Does anyone know what Van Gogh and Four Wheel drive are standing for next year?

I've been looking but can't find anything

I'm assuming these are right as a lot of stallions don't have fees listed yet but they both do.

https://arion.co.nz/StallionsRoster/Sta ... rList.aspx

Four Wheel Drive - ¥1,200,000
Van Gogh - ¥2,000,000

Thank you I wonder what they're half brother Cafe Pharoah will stand for he doesn't have a fee yet

Cafe Pharoah(USA) will stand for a fee of JPY1,500,00 at Arrow Stud next year.
He has already been fully booked.

[tachyon]

Titleholder(JPN)(Duramente)
JPY3,500,000 (new)

Panthalassa(JPN)(Lord Kanaloa)
JPY3,000,000 (new)

Grenadier Guards(JPN)(Frankel)
JPY1,500,000 (new)

Pixie Knight(JPN)(Maurice)
JPY1,000,000 (new)

Unicorn Lion(IRE)(No Nay Never)
JPY500,000 (new)

Vela Azul(JPN)(Eishin Flash)
JPY500,000 (new)

[brunanas]

i know Vela Azul's record overall isn't the best, but half a million seems pretty low for a Japan Cup winner. does he have some funky conformation?

[Flanders]

i know Vela Azul's record overall isn't the best, but half a million seems pretty low for a Japan Cup winner. does he have some funky conformation?

He looks okay to me, tachyon posted his pic before here:
viewtopic.php?p=292583#p292583

[tachyon]

i know Vela Azul's record overall isn't the best, but half a million seems pretty low for a Japan Cup winner. does he have some funky conformation?

He looks okay to me, tachyon posted his pic before here:
viewtopic.php?p=292583#p292583

A Japan Cup victory itself can't guarantee an expensive fee at stud.
2009 Japan Cup winner Screen Hero(JPN)(Grass Wonder), who became a very successful stallion later, had to start from JPY300,000 in his first season at stud because of his modest race record.

2022 Japan Cup was Vela Azul's only G1 victory and he never hit the board after that.
And he didn't win any race going less than 2400m on the turf in his career and, even in Japan, the speed is much more appreciated by the breeders than the stamina.
(By the same token, European stayers wouldn't enjoy great fees at stud in Japan, even if their race records in Europe had been excellent.)

-- Vela Azul's life-time race record :
https://en.netkeiba.com/db/horse/result/2017105082/

JPY500,000 still looks a little bit bargain to me, but not so much.
I just thought that JPY1,000,000 would be a fair price to him.

[Northport]

Sid Fernando said on Steve Byk’s show yesterday that Justify’s fee is now $300,000

[stelladaniella]

Annapolis (War Front) - $12,500

[Danniwolfe]

Man what a fall American Pharoah has. 50k now

[Eohippus]

Man what a fall American Pharoah has. 50k now

I am actually a bit heartbroken, Pharoah is one of my favorites and imo he has a lot to offer to the breed (soundness, conformation, temperament) but he’s been tanking hard. With Justify being such a success I worry Pharoah will be forgotten. As any other stallion flopped this hard?

Maybe I’m being dramatic but been sort of down as of late

[HB1994]

Why is American Pharoah being considered a flop? He finished in the top 10 (#6) on the NA sire list with 11 SWs and 6 GSWs. His yearling average was $208,498. Has he sired a superstar yet? No. But he has sired some nice runners. AP's never had an insanely hot run like Justify has had over the last few months, but I would argue he's not a failure.