Stallion News

Justahorse · Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:28 am

Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:55 am Champion Stravinsky ((Nureyev - Fire the Groom)) has died in Japan from the infirmities of old age, he was 27.

Aww poor guy

Thumbsucker · Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:12 am

Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:52 am
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:33 am Aren't prospective stallions tested before retiring to stud?
If I were thinking of buying/retiring a stallion, I know I would want a vet to take a close look at his 'swimmers' under a microscope before I made any decisions.

No
I read the reason many years ago but can't recall now. That's why they have infertility insurance....
Think about the fact also they'd have to pull a horse from training, and have them mount a mare or phantom to get that collection to test them. Most colts get those stud deals when they're still running and I'm sure most trainers wouldn't want to deal with colts who've now had a taste of something more appealing than racing LOL

halo · Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:42 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:33 am Aren't prospective stallions tested before retiring to stud?
If I were thinking of buying/retiring a stallion, I know I would want a vet to take a close look at his 'swimmers' under a microscope before I made any decisions.

If you want to insure him for fertility, you can't check his fertility first. Its the same as if you get in a car accident, and then decide to get insurance.

brunanas · Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:49 pm

Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:52 am and I'm sure most trainers wouldn't want to deal with colts who've now had a taste of something more appealing than racing LOL

Flanders · Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:05 am

Mind Control moves to Irish Hill & Dutchess Views Stallions for 2024, which was part of the agreement between the farms that bought him.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -stallions

tachyon · Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:03 pm

Akitaperson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:01 pm
tachyon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:46 am Cafe Pharoah(USA)(H6. by American Pharoah), 2022 JRA Champion Dirt horse, has been retired from racing.
He will stand at Arrow Stud next year.
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001314504/

Japan really seems to like the Pharoahs I think he's got two other sons in Japan already

Four Wheel Drive(USA)(Breeders Stallion Station) and Van Gogh(USA)(East Stud) have been standing in Japan.

Cafe Pharoah(USA) arrived at Arrow Stud yesterday!!

https://twitter.com/JS_CompanyJP/status ... 5676425299
https://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/4 ... 8092263592

TapitsGal · Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:54 pm

One in vermillion who is sired by army mule has been retired. His owners are seeking a stud deal for him but nothing is finalized

Akitaperson · Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:59 am

Mage new to airdrie 2024

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/k ... mgOwKEEge0

Mylute · Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:23 am

LAME!

But also not lame.

Izvestia · Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:31 pm

Mylute wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:23 am LAME!

But also not lame.

Just another horse that won the Derby. Nothing great. Hmph.

tachyon · Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:24 am

Panthalassa(JPN)(Lord Kanaloa) has been retired from racing.
He will stand at Arrow Stud.

MissNMecke · Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:13 am

Consistent performer Warrant will enter stud in Pennsylvania next year.

genuinerizk · Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:34 am

Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:42 pm Bucchero on the move to New York from Indiana! 2024 fee: $7,500.

https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... -for-2024/

They also stand Snapper Sinclair and Joevia but don't have them listed on their site yet.

McMahon of Saratoga released a stallion show date and 2024 stallion fees, however, Snapper Sinclair is not listed and is not on their site. Anyone know what happened to him? I was seriously considering him for a mare I have

Justahorse · Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:45 am

genuinerizk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:34 am
Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:42 pm Bucchero on the move to New York from Indiana! 2024 fee: $7,500.

https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... -for-2024/

They also stand Snapper Sinclair and Joevia but don't have them listed on their site yet.
McMahon of Saratoga released a stallion show date and 2024 stallion fees, however, Snapper Sinclair is not listed and is not on their site. Anyone know what happened to him? I was seriously considering him for a mare I have

I hope he wasn't sold overseas

Flanders · Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:13 pm

genuinerizk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:34 am
Mylute wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:42 pm Bucchero on the move to New York from Indiana! 2024 fee: $7,500.

https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... -for-2024/

They also stand Snapper Sinclair and Joevia but don't have them listed on their site yet.
McMahon of Saratoga released a stallion show date and 2024 stallion fees, however, Snapper Sinclair is not listed and is not on their site. Anyone know what happened to him? I was seriously considering him for a mare I have

So I can't confirm anything because this is purely from my research. He only covered 10 mares in his first year which seems exceptionally low. 2 of them went through the FT Saratoga Fall Mixed Sale and had to be bred to other stallions that stand at McMahon after failing to get in foal to him. That leads me to think fertility issue. I have linked to the 2 mares to make it easier, if you want to see:

https://www.fasigtipton.com/catalogs/2023/1017/65.pdf

https://www.fasigtipton.com/catalogs/2023/1017/200.pdf

Then I looked and they didn't have him registered as a NY stallion for 2023(on nybreds.com) when all their other stallions are. So perhaps they didn't bother once it was found he had fertility issues?

Akitaperson · Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:40 pm

Any word on McCracken?

Poofed of Airdrie roster, I know he had fertility issues. So has been pensioned?

Justahorse · Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:45 pm

Akitaperson wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:40 pm Any word on McCracken?

Poofed of Airdrie roster, I know he had fertility issues. So has been pensioned?

So many disappear

Justahorse · Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:10 pm

I emailed McMahon they got back and said both studs have moved

Mylute · Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:52 pm

I was looking forward to Snapper babies, really disappointing if that doesn't work out for him.

Flanders · Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:36 am

I don't know where Joevia ended up, he doesn't have a RMB for 2023, or an export, etc. So he was probably moved before the 2023 season but he was listed at McMahon for 2023. He had stood 2022 there and was in New Jersey at Colonial Farms for his first year at stud in 2021.

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I saw Visitant has a 2024 stud fee after making a return to racing in September. I hope he stays retired this time.