The rise of Sunday Silence

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tachyon
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Continuous(JPN), 2020C. Heart's Cry(JPN) x Fluff(IRE) by Galileo(IRE), won impressively the G1 St Leger Stakes 2910m at Doncaster under Ryan Moore on Sep 16th 2023. :D

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The GREAT Sunday Silence(USA) has now achieved a clean sweep of the British Classic Races with his direct-line grandsons and granddaughters! :D 8-) :D

1000 Guineas : Natagora(FR)(Divine Light) in 2008 https://www.pedigreequery.com/natagora
2000 Guineas : Saxon Warrior(JPN)(Deep Impact) in 2018 https://www.pedigreequery.com/saxon+warrior7
Oaks : Snowfall(JPN)(Deep Impact) in 2021 https://www.pedigreequery.com/snowfall11
Derby : Auguste Rodin(IRE)(Deep Impact) in 2023 https://www.pedigreequery.com/auguste+rodin
St Leger : Continuous(JPN)(Heart's Cry) in 2023 https://www.pedigreequery.com/continuous5


This started with Divine Light filly Natagora in 2008.

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-- replay of the 2008 Thousand Guineas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHWLBdx222k&t=242s

What's next?
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tachyon wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:42 pm Sunday Silence(USA) sired 26 JRA champion horses* during his stud career**.
Here below is the list:

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Dance Partner(JPN) 1992M. o/o Dancing Key(USA) by Nijinsky(CAN): 3yof (1995), older f&m (1996)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000262374/

Fuji Kiseki(JPN) 1992H. o/o Millracer(USA) by Le Fabuleux(FR): 2yo (1994)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000262443/

Marvelous Sunday(JPN) 1992H. o/o Momiji Dancer(JPN) by Viceregal(CAN): older (1997)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000256512/

Bubble Gum Fellow(JPN) 1993H. o/o Bubble Company(FR) by Lyphard(USA): 2yo (1995)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000274914/

Dance in the Dark(JPN) 1993H. o/o Dancing Key(USA) by Nijinsky(CAN): 3yo (1996)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000274883/

Stinger(JPN) 1996M. o/o Legacy of Strength(USA) by Affirmed(USA): 2yof (1998)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000309040/


To the Victory(JPN) 1996M. o/o Fairy Doll(USA) by Nureyev(USA): older f&m (2001)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000309174/

Air Shakur(JPN) 1997H. o/o I Dreamed a Dream(USA) by Well Decorated(USA): 3yo (2000)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000316264/

Cheers Grace(JPN) 1997M. o/o Cheers Flower(JPN) by Al Nasr(FR): 3yof (2000)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000319544/

Believe(JPN) 1998M. o/o Great Christine(USA) by Danzig(USA) : older f&m (2003)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000324472/

Diamond Biko(JPN) 1998M. o/o Stella Madrid(USA) by Alydar(USA): older f&m (2002)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000324989/

Manhattan Café(JPN) 1998H. o/o Subtle Change(IRE) by Law Society(USA): older (2002)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000324971/

Mejiro Bailey(JPN) 1998H. o/o Reru du Temps(JPN) by Maruzensky(JPN): 2yo (2000)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000324876/

Durandal(JPN) 1999H. o/o Sawayaka Princess(JPN) by Northern Taste(CAN): sprint/mile (2003)(2004)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000619835/

Gold Allure(JPN) 1999H. o/o Nikiya(USA) by Nureyev(USA): dirt (2002)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000619768/

Admire Groove(JPN) 2000M. o/o Air Groove(JPN) by Tony Bin(IRE): older f&m (2004)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000713851/

Neo Universe(JPN) 2000H. o/o Pointed Path(GB) by Kris(GB): 3yo (2003)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000701577/

Peace of World(JPN) 2000M. o/o Vivante Meule(IRE) by Caerleon(USA) : 2yof (2002)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000702494/

Still in Love(JPN) 2000M. o/o Bradamante(USA) by Roberto(USA): 3yof (2003)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000707242/

Zenno Rob Roy(JPN) 2000H. o/o Roamin Rachel(USA) by Mining(USA): older (2004), hoty (2004)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000701668/

Daiwa Major(JPN) 2001H. o/o Scarlet Bouquet(JPN) by Northern Taste(CAN): sprint/mile (2006)(2007)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000725485/

Dance in the Mood(JPN) 2001M. o/o Dancing Key(USA) by Nijinsky(CAN): 3yof (2004), older f&m (2006)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000726398/

Hat Trick(JPN) 2001H. o/o Tricky Code(USA) by Lost Code(USA): sprint/mile (2005)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000726914/

Heart's Cry(JPN) 2001H. o/o Irish Dance(JPN) by Tony Bin(IRE): older (2005)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000722158/

Deep Impact(JPN) 2002H. o/o Wind in Her Hair(IRE) by Alzao(USA): 3yo (2005), older (2006), hoty (2005)(2006)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000742976/

Shonan Peintre(JPN) 2002M. o/o Bubble Wings(FR) by In the Wings(GB): 2yof (2004)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000742742/


* Only horses who were awarded JRA's ''divisional best horse'' or ''horse of the year'' titles are included in the list above.
Silence Suzuka(JPN), Special Week(JPN), Stay Gold(JPN), who were given JRA's ''Special Awards'' in 1998, 1999, and 2001 respectively, are not included in the list above.
** there are a few Sunday Silence sons that are still in training as of now.
Stinger(JPN), 1998 champion juvenile filly, died of old age at Shadai Bluegrass Farm where she had been pensioned on Sep 21st 2023. :(
Trained by Kazuo Fujisawa, she raced consistently from 2 to 6 while winning four graded races including a G1.
May she rest in peace.
https://en.netkeiba.com/db/horse/1996107252/
https://en.netkeiba.com/db/horse/result/1996107252/

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tachyon wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 7:56 am
Starine wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 7:04 pm Hat Trick's Brazilian-bred daughter Macadamia takes the grade I Gamely!

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -in-gamely
WOO-HOO!!!!! :D 8-) :D

I'm so happy for her and her connections.
Phil D'Amato is a great trainer!
Brazilian Tiago Pereira gave her a perfect ride!
R Unicorn Stable is owned by Japanese Ryuzo Kaimoto.
Hat Trick(JPN)(Sunday Silence) daughter Macadamia(BRZ) is still improving.
I would love to see her run in the BC F&M Turf later this year, if this race is to be run over 10F at Santa Anita.
She might handle the distance.
Macadamia(BRZ)(Hat Trick) has been retired from racing due to injury.
I hoped she would contest the BC race .... :(

https://jcb.com.br/home/noticias/406966 ... ncuso-188/
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tachyon wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:11 am Continuous(JPN), 2020C. Heart's Cry(JPN) x Fluff(IRE) by Galileo(IRE), won impressively the G1 St Leger Stakes 2910m at Doncaster under Ryan Moore on Sep 16th 2023. :D

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I've just come across a pick of Continuous as a foal! :D

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''Title: JAPAN: Continuous success for Coolmore’s investment in Japan''

https://www.theirishfield.ie/japan-cont ... pan-785359
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Doutor Sureno(BRZ), 2018H. Agnes Gold(JPN) x Notavel Surena(BRZ) by Redattore(BRZ), scored his 3rd G1 victory very impressively in the G1 Gran Premio Latinoamericano 2000m turf, the biggest race in South America, for Brazil at San Isidoro, Argentina, on Oct 8th 2023!!! :D
Doutor Sureno became the 11th Brazilian horse in history to capture this prestigious race and the first to win it outside of Brazil since Jimwaki(BRZ) in 1998.

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https://jcb.com.br/home/noticias/408640 ... ricano-g1/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84QG5GyDs5c

I'm wondering where he will be pointed to next!
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What a champion!

Equinox(JPN), 2019C. Kitasan Black(JPN) x Chateau Blanche(JPN) by King Halo(JPN), won the G1 Tenno Sho Autumn 2000m turf at Tokyo under Christophe Lemaire extending his winning streak, all in G1 races, to five on Oct 29th 2023.
He set a new track & JRA record in 1:55.2 for 2000m turf smashing the previous time by 0.9 seconds, as he became the third horse after Symboli Kris S(USA) (2002-2003) and Almond Eye(JPN) (2019-2020) to defend his title in the Tenno Sho Autumn.

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-- replay (English)
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1st 7 Equinox(JPN) [Kitasan Black(JPN) x Chateau Blanche(JPN) by King Halo(JPN)] C4 58 01:55.2
2nd 6 Justin Palace(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Palace Rumor(USA) by Royal Anthem(USA)] C4 58 01:55.6 2 1/2
3rd 9 Prognosis(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Velda(GB) by Observatory(USA)] H5 58 01:55.8 1 1/4
4th 4 Danon Beluga(JPN) C4 58 01:55.8 HD
5th 5 Gaia Force(JPN) C4 58 01:56.2 2 1/2
6th 11 Admire Hadar(JPN) H5 58 01:56.5 1 1/2
7th 3 Do Deuce(JPN) C4 58 01:56.6 1/2
8th 2 Echt(JPN) H6 58 01:57.4 5
9th 8 Hishi Iguazu(JPN) H7 58 01:57.6 1 1/2
10th 1 North Bridge(JPN) H5 58 01:58.0 2 1/2
11th 10 Jack d'Or(JPN) H5 58 01:58.4 2 1/2

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Equinox(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001309176/
9: 7-2-0

-- JRA review
''Equinox Validates Status as World’s Best with Record Win in Tenno Sho (Autumn)''
https://japanracing.jp/_news2023/pdf/231029.pdf
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A son of Daiwa Major won the G1 Prix Royal-Oak 3100m!

https://x.com/WorldRacing1/status/17186 ... 95510?s=20

I love this :lol:
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Palace Malice wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:29 pm A son of Daiwa Major won the G1 Prix Royal-Oak 3100m!

https://x.com/WorldRacing1/status/17186 ... 95510?s=20

I love this :lol:
Awwwww.. that's amazing!! :D
I really liked Double Major's Prix Royal-Oak in Paris as much as Equinox's Tenno Sho in Tokyo yesterday!!

Daiwa Major(JPN), 2001H. o/o Scarlet Bouquet(JPN) by Northern Taste(CAN), is a first-class stallion, of course.
But how could you believe that the 22yo veteran, who had never sired graded winner going 1800m+ on flat in Japan, would get a G1 winner going 3100m in Europe? :o :D 8-)
He became the third Sunday Silence son to sire G1 winner in Europe this year after Deep Impact (Auguste Rodin) and Heart's Cry (Continuous).
What a year for the grandsons of Sunday Silence in Europe!!!! 8-)


And thanks Aisling Crowe (@racingpost) for sharing a detailed write-up about the winner and his pedigree!!!

''Sunday Silence at Longchamp as Double Major wins Prix Royal-Oak''
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/s ... 7F4c3Wafo/

That's Interesting read!!

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Double Major(IRE) : 2020G. Daiwa Major(JPN) x Dancequest(IRE) by Dansili(GB)
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-- @TVG

@TheMichelleYu talked to Pat Valenzuela, who's back exercising horses, about Sunday Silence and who his favorite
@BreedersCup winner was.

https://twitter.com/TVG/status/1719036040642707504
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Auguste Rodin(IRE), 2020C. Deep Impact(JPN) x Rhododendron(IRE) by Galileo(IRE), captured his fifth G1 title under Ryan Moore in the BC Turf 2400m turf at Santa Anita on Nov 4th 2023!!

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-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKbpXCNu0FQ
1st. Auguste Rodin(IRE)(Deep Impact)
2nd. Up to the Mark(USA)(Not This Time)
3rd. Shahryar(JPN)(Deep Impact)
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There are no words to express how completely thrilled I am about the success of Sunday Silence descendants in Europe and in the Breeders Cup this year. American breeders and owners still continue to ignore his descendants, much to their detriment in my opinion. Sunday is no longer only Japan's super stallion. He is now one of the greatest sires of all time worldwide. For someone like myself, who has loved him from his racing days in Southern California, I can only say thank you to Japan for giving him the chance he deserved. :)
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Ridan_Remembered wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:51 pm There are no words to express how completely thrilled I am about the success of Sunday Silence descendants in Europe and in the Breeders Cup this year. American breeders and owners still continue to ignore his descendants, much to their detriment in my opinion. Sunday is no longer only Japan's super stallion. He is now one of the greatest sires of all time worldwide. For someone like myself, who has loved him from his racing days in Southern California, I can only say thank you to Japan for giving him the chance he deserved. :)
I believe that Sunday Silence is truly a game-changing sire.
And I wonder if he had to be granted ''Chef-de-Race'' status in the dosage system...
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tachyon wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:07 am
Ridan_Remembered wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:51 pm There are no words to express how completely thrilled I am about the success of Sunday Silence descendants in Europe and in the Breeders Cup this year. American breeders and owners still continue to ignore his descendants, much to their detriment in my opinion. Sunday is no longer only Japan's super stallion. He is now one of the greatest sires of all time worldwide. For someone like myself, who has loved him from his racing days in Southern California, I can only say thank you to Japan for giving him the chance he deserved. :)
I believe that Sunday Silence is truly a game-changing sire.
And I wonder if he had to be granted ''Chef-de-Race'' status in the dosage system...
I don't know that anyone even does the dosage system anymore. I haven't seen a stallion granted Chef-de-Race in years. I know when Steven Roman stepped down that someone else was supposed to take over but I don't know that anyone really did.
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Flanders wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:22 am
tachyon wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:07 am
Ridan_Remembered wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:51 pm There are no words to express how completely thrilled I am about the success of Sunday Silence descendants in Europe and in the Breeders Cup this year. American breeders and owners still continue to ignore his descendants, much to their detriment in my opinion. Sunday is no longer only Japan's super stallion. He is now one of the greatest sires of all time worldwide. For someone like myself, who has loved him from his racing days in Southern California, I can only say thank you to Japan for giving him the chance he deserved. :)
I believe that Sunday Silence is truly a game-changing sire.
And I wonder if he had to be granted ''Chef-de-Race'' status in the dosage system...
I don't know that anyone even does the dosage system anymore. I haven't seen a stallion granted Chef-de-Race in years. I know when Steven Roman stepped down that someone else was supposed to take over but I don't know that anyone really did.
I got interested in the dosage system when I started to follow the North-American racing about 25 years ago.
I thought that the ''dual-quaifier'' theory for the Kentucky Derby was interesting, even if I didn't know how much that system was useful to handicap the real race.
And it was interesting to know about distance abilities of sires.
Since then, I've been wondering in what category (brilliant - intermediate - classic - solid -professional) Sunday Silence would be classified if he were granted Chef-de-Race.
Unbridled's Song, one of the six latest stallions who became Chefs-de-Races in 2019, was classified in ''intermediate'' and Darshaan was classified in ''solid'', for examples.
I just guess that Sunday Silence's influence is ''classic''.
But I would never be able to check the answer if no one took over the work after 2019, sadly..
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tachyon wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:52 am
Flanders wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:22 am
tachyon wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:07 am
I believe that Sunday Silence is truly a game-changing sire.
And I wonder if he had to be granted ''Chef-de-Race'' status in the dosage system...
I don't know that anyone even does the dosage system anymore. I haven't seen a stallion granted Chef-de-Race in years. I know when Steven Roman stepped down that someone else was supposed to take over but I don't know that anyone really did.
I got interested in the dosage system when I started to follow the North-American racing about 25 years ago.
I thought that the ''dual-quaifier'' theory for the Kentucky Derby was interesting, even if I didn't know how much that system was useful to handicap the real race.
And it was interesting to know about distance abilities of sires.
Since then, I've been wondering in what category (brilliant - intermediate - classic - solid -professional) Sunday Silence would be classified if he were granted Chef-de-Race.
Unbridled's Song, one of the six latest stallions who became Chefs-de-Races in 2019, was classified in ''intermediate'' and Darshaan was classified in ''solid'', for examples.
I just guess that Sunday Silence's influence is ''classic''.
But I would never be able to check the answer if no one took over the work after 2019, sadly..
Here is link to a dosage update to the ANZ chef-de-race list. There is no date on it, but it does designate Sunday Silence as a Classic chef-de-race. http://dosages.com.au/about-the-newest-updates
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Ridan_Remembered wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:15 pm
tachyon wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:52 am
Flanders wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:22 am
I don't know that anyone even does the dosage system anymore. I haven't seen a stallion granted Chef-de-Race in years. I know when Steven Roman stepped down that someone else was supposed to take over but I don't know that anyone really did.
I got interested in the dosage system when I started to follow the North-American racing about 25 years ago.
I thought that the ''dual-quaifier'' theory for the Kentucky Derby was interesting, even if I didn't know how much that system was useful to handicap the real race.
And it was interesting to know about distance abilities of sires.
Since then, I've been wondering in what category (brilliant - intermediate - classic - solid -professional) Sunday Silence would be classified if he were granted Chef-de-Race.
Unbridled's Song, one of the six latest stallions who became Chefs-de-Races in 2019, was classified in ''intermediate'' and Darshaan was classified in ''solid'', for examples.
I just guess that Sunday Silence's influence is ''classic''.
But I would never be able to check the answer if no one took over the work after 2019, sadly..
Here is link to a dosage update to the ANZ chef-de-race list. There is no date on it, but it does designate Sunday Silence as a Classic chef-de-race. http://dosages.com.au/about-the-newest-updates
I had seen that myself. What's weird though is that Steve Miller, who took over from Steve Roman, specifically said none of these ones count. Because this is where Danehill and Storm Cat's Chef de Race designations came from. He made Pedigreequery remove ALL Chef de Races that weren't assigned by himself or Roman. But I don't believe Miller and Roman ever bothered to do stallions that didn't stand in the US or Europe.
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Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:40 pm

Daiwa Major(JPN), one of the best sons of Sunday Silence(USA), has been retired from stud duty.
He will be pensioned at Shadai Stallion Station.

Daiwa Major(JPN) won five G1s including Satsuki Sho, Tenno Sho Autumn, Yasuda Kinen and 2x Mile Championship while he was racing.
He earned JRA Champion Sprinter/Miler titles twice.
At stud, he has sired eight G1 winners including Curren Black Hill(JPN), Copano Richard(JPN), Major Emblem(JPN), Reine Minoru(JPN), Admire Mars(JPN), Resistencia(JPN), Serifos(JPN) and Double Major(IRE) to date.
His offspring did especially well going around 1600m on turf.
I was surprised when Double Major(IRE) won the G1 Prix Royal-Oak 3100m in France most recently.

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Daiwa Major(JPN) : 2001H. Sunday Silence(USA) x Scarlet Bouquet(JPN) by Northern Taste(CAN)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000725485/

I don't know which race was Daiwa Major's best among his magnificent five G1s.
But his fight back over Dance in the Mood(JPN)(Sunday Silence) in the G2 2006 Mainichi Okan is also still unforgettable to me.
He was such a game winner.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s3Fd4Ec0gE

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https://www.jbis.jp/race/result/2006100 ... LjQ1LjAuMA..
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