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BaroqueAgain1
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Kikkuli must be Kind's last foal. Hope he does well.
IMO, much of Frankel's (or any of his siblings') success comes from Kind's potent legacy.
IMO, much of Frankel's (or any of his siblings') success comes from Kind's potent legacy.
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HB1994
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Mylute
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Cartier nominees are out:
https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/ ... -the-year/HOTY: Paddington, Auguste Rodin, Mostahdaf, and Ace Impact
Older Horse: Inspiral, Hukum, Westover, Mostahdaf
Sprinter: Art Power, Highfield Princess, Live In The Dream, Shaquille
Stayer: Continuous, Courage Mon Ami, Quickthorn, Trueshan
3 Y/O Colt: Ace Impact, Auguste Rodin, Big Rock, Paddington
3 Y/O Filly: Blue Rose Cen, Mawj, Tahiyra, Warm Heart
2 Y/O Colt: City of Troy, Henry Longfellow, Rosallion, Vandeek
2 Y/O Filly: Fallen Angel, Opera Singer, Porta Fortuna, Ylang Ylang
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BaroqueAgain1
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IMO, Cartier HOTY and 3yo colt should go to Auguste Rodin. I know there will be votes for Arc winner Ace Impact, but isn't Auguste's race record better? And he shipped all the way to California to take the BC Turf against a stellar field.
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HB1994
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Auguste Rodin finished up the track in the King George and 2000 Guineas, while Ace Impact was undefeated and won Europe’s most important race, the Arc. Then again, he never raced outside of France, so it’s a tough call.BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:14 pm IMO, Cartier HOTY and 3yo colt should go to Auguste Rodin. I know there will be votes for Arc winner Ace Impact, but isn't Auguste's race record better? And he shipped all the way to California to take the BC Turf against a stellar field.
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BaroqueAgain1
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Wasn't the ground for the King George very soft? If so, the going may have been a reason for the colt's placing.
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HB1994
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No, it was good to soft. He was beaten 126 lengths (he was pretty much eased). Hukum and Westover, who finished 1-2 in the King George, were both beaten by Ace Impact in the Arc.BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:16 pm Wasn't the ground for the King George very soft? If so, the going may have been a reason for the colt's placing.
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Northport
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The Cartier Awards are 40% point based as well, so they aren’t as subjective as other awards. I saw a recent article with the rankings last week, though of course I can’t find it now, but Paddington was the leader by a wide margin, and Ace Impact was in maybe 9th or 10th. 30% of the vote is then made up by journalists and the last 30% is votes by the racing public. Not sure if either of those can bridge the gap for Ace Impact. Yes he won against elders once but he didn’t leave France. I don’t see how he would beat out Auguste Rodin or Paddington in HOTY or Three Year Old.
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Starine
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Interesting; I wasn't aware. Thanks for explaining.Northport wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:48 am The Cartier Awards are 40% point based as well, so they aren’t as subjective as other awards. I saw a recent article with the rankings last week, though of course I can’t find it now, but Paddington was the leader by a wide margin, and Ace Impact was in maybe 9th or 10th. 30% of the vote is then made up by journalists and the last 30% is votes by the racing public. Not sure if either of those can bridge the gap for Ace Impact. Yes he won against elders once but he didn’t leave France. I don’t see how he would beat out Auguste Rodin or Paddington in HOTY or Three Year Old.
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Palace Malice
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Justahorse
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We can dream thoughPalace Malice wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:43 pmI would love to see him run against Equinox but he will probably retire.
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tachyon
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Champion Stakes 3rd Horizon Dore(FR)(Dabirsim) will run next in the G1 Hong Kong Cup 2000m turf on Dec 10th 2023. 
He ran very well at Ascot even if soft going might not have been his best.
Best of luck to him at Sha Tin!
https://www.paris-turf.com/actualites/i ... 2610688963
He ran very well at Ascot even if soft going might not have been his best.
Best of luck to him at Sha Tin!
https://www.paris-turf.com/actualites/i ... 2610688963
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BaroqueAgain1
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Golden Sixty is impressive.
Has he ever raced outside of Hong Kong? If not, is it possible he might in the future?
Has he ever raced outside of Hong Kong? If not, is it possible he might in the future?
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Flanders
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No and no. If all goes to plan, he is only racing 2 more times before being retired as he is 8. January - Steward's Cup and April - Champions Mile.BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:52 am Golden Sixty is impressive.
Has he ever raced outside of Hong Kong? If not, is it possible he might in the future?