2023 Report of Mares Bred

[brunanas]

Had time to go over the list in full. My random takeaways:

Not surprised to see Army Mule so busy. The Hill n Dale contact I met at the Preakness said that by May they had people beating down the door to pay $20,000 to get their mares in to him.

Cupid's move probably was due to that big ol drop from 178 to 43.

Honor AP at 39 and Honor Code almost identical at 38. Still no idea why they never lowered Honor Code's fee, maybe they were holding out and hoping to sell him? idk.

Happy to see Karakontie getting 86 mares. Loved him as a racehorse. He is a consistently good stallion and love that Gainesway's gamble is paying off - at least compared to other turf stallion imports.

4 mares for Mastery... yeah.

*only* 111 mares for Mendelssohn... they have dropped his price again but he really does need a breakout horse asap. I can see him on the chopping block this time next year. That blue blood can only take him so far and Justify is really eating his lunch on the Scat Daddy legacy front.

If Nashville becomes the next breedshaping sire, I am afraid I am going to have to find a new sport to follow. I just... dont understand.

160 mares to Oscar Performance - excellent on the turf breeding front.

6 to Palace Malice. He must be a staff favourite at the farm because someone there clearly wants to keep him around.

47 for Runhappy, down from 144 last year and 56 from the year before. The sponsorship hype has worn off and I'm not sure how much Nutella Fella can turn that around.

44 for Silent Name, currently carrying the Ontario bred program on his increasingly senior back.

Union Rags got 43 mares. Crazy the cliff he has fallen off of, numbers and results wise. In 2020 he covered 111 mares for $60,000.

34 for Yoshida... I think WinStar will accept the first offer they get.

And... checking in on everyone's favourite tax write off...
Bal a Bali - 4
Big Blue Kitten - 1
Bravazo - 6
Channel Cat - 10
Hence - 0
Hightail - 33 (!!!)
Keen Ice - 30
Mr. Z - 0
Oxbow - 21
Producer - 0
Raison d'Etat - 1
Ransom the Moon - 11
True Timber - 2
Real Solution - 4

Looking forward to seeing the resulting progeny sell without reserve for $1,400 at KEESEPT25.

Just cause you mentioned them, did you see in the Keeneland November sale, they have Big Blue Kitten and Mr. Z. And both are being sold with Seven Transferable NH Lifetime Breeding Rights to be Retained by Seller. What is the point? Not like they've ever bred to them anyway.

what book are the stallions in? i wanna see who else is being offered as a stallion prospect but downloading the big pdf doesn't help because it never loads completely

[Flanders]

what book are the stallions in? i wanna see who else is being offered as a stallion prospect but downloading the big pdf doesn't help because it never loads completely

Those 2 are in Session 8, along with Bourbonic (hips 3153-3155), then Session 9 (hips 3589-3590) Frank Conversation and Noble Bird. So I would guess its the last book as those are the last 2 sessions. I should add that the November HORA catalog has a lot of racing or stallion prospects.

[Izvestia]

Early Voting: 191 (Ashford/KY);

as always, my biggest FUCK YOU to Coolmore and co.

I echo the sentiment. In the articles they say "He quit finishing midway through the season". How many more mares were they going to send him???? They broke him mentally with the sheer number of mares or with whatever methods they used to "encourage" him to breed.

Sadly, they are probably taking years off his life. I thought Epicenter had been badly injured!!! Why so many mares?
Stallions should be capped at 150.

[Northport]

And... checking in on everyone's favourite tax write off...

that's a new way to call them HAHAHAHAH

I honestly think that has to be it. It just makes no sense otherwise. When I visited Kentucky in August, I visited Keeneland with my Grandpa and we drove past Calumet since it’s almost next door to the track. I was ranting about how the whole modern operation initially looked like a fun experiment of different/less popular bloodlines but now is just breeding garbage to garbage and selling it to an uninterested market for peanuts. My Grandpa was like “sounds like a billionaire needs to write millions off each year as a loss” and tbh it isn’t completely that off base. I wouldnt be surprised if they only accept stallion nominations via carrier pigeon. They seem intent on getting their coverings as close to zero as possible.

[Miss Woodford]

It is remarkable that the USTA is able to limit Standardbred stallions to 140 mares yet the JC yielded to the stud farms who complained at the mere suggestion of such a rule for Thoroughbreds. Perhaps it is the difference in the amount of money involved - the highest STB stud fee is $40k.

Here are the stallions that caught my eye going through the lower tiers of the list:
Done Talking - 30 single-hoovedly keeping TB breeding in SC alive, and I bet most of these are his owner's mares
Mineshaft - 26
Smarty Jones - 20 a respectable number for the old fellow
Eagle - 13 moved to Uruguay after this season
Big Brown - 12
Flying Honeypot - 12 was pulled up and vanned off in his final race in 2022 so it's good to see he found a soft landing
Freud - 10 he's still hanging around
Accelerate - 9 what is he doing at $10k next year?
Palace Malice - 6 should be out of KY soon
Morning Stride - 5 was pulled up and vanned off in his last race in March 2023 after a year-long layoff and was bought to stand in AZ
Visitant - 5 was retired to stud in 2023, returned to racing and after a couple decent efforts is running in the Lure Stakes tomorrow
Gio Ponti - 3 also surprised he's still in KY
Greatness - 3 the last Mr. Prospector
Time Bandit - 3 more like time traveler, this guy is 27! https://www.pedigreequery.com/time+bandit he's by Time for a Change out of La Voyageuse by Tentam
Flap Jack - 2 also pulled up/vanned off in his last March 2023 start but was scooped up to stand in AR
Stroll - 2
Denis of Cork - 1 this is a big drop and surprising to me since I see his babies all the time at Charles Town
Giacomo - 1
I'll Have Another - 1
Satans Irish Debut - 1 rarest pedigree award https://www.pedigreequery.com/satans+irish+debut
Sea All Watchin - 1 I believe this is the only color stallion on this report, of course breeding as a 3yo

[Palace Malice]

I echo the sentiment. In the articles they say "He quit finishing midway through the season". How many more mares were they going to send him???? They broke him mentally with the sheer number of mares or with whatever methods they used to "encourage" him to breed.

at this rate, he was very likely breeding 2-3 mares (almost) daily. it's disgusting. it's wild not many seem to see an issue with Golden Pal's numbers too. and then when their heart gives out, they'll be all like we are so heartbroken we could never see this coming

I'm still typing comments in another post that I haven't finished but I have a problem with anything over 140. The higher it is, the worse it is. That any horse covered over 200 or even approaching 300 is absolutely disgusting.

We really need a breeding cap...150 should be the limit. Stop the greed!!! Those are animals, not machines.

[Slewfan2]

1st year sires:
Golden Pal: 292 (Ashford/KY);
Epicenter: 262 (Ashford/KY);
Jack Christopher: 247 (Ashford/KY);
Olympiad: 228 (Gainesway/KY);
Cyberknife: 223 (Spendthrift/KY);
Mandaloun: 211 (Juddmonte/KY);
Nashville: 204 (WinStar/KY);
Drain the Clock: 199 (Gainesway/KY);
Life is Good: 192 (WinStar/KY);
Early Voting: 191 (Ashford/KY);
Mind Control: 190 (Rockridge/NY);
Mo Donegal: 186 (Spendthrift/KY);
Jackie's Warrior: 182 (Spendthrift/KY);
Corniche: 180 (Ashford/KY);
Greatest Honour: 178 (Spendthrift/KY);
Roadster: 153 (Ocala Stud/FL);
Flightline: 152 (Lane's End/NY);
Speaker's Corner: 149 (Darley/KY);
Pinehurst: 146 (Walmac/KY);
Mystic Guide: 145 (Darley/KY);
Highly Motivated: 141 (Airdrie/KY);
Colonel Liam: 138 (Ocala Stud/FL);
Idol: 128 (Taylor Made/KY);
Magic on Tap: 88 (Pleasant Acres/FL);
Aloha West: 83 (Mill Ridge/KY);
Happy Saver: 74 (Airdrie/KY);
Keepmeinmind: 70 (Sequel/NY);
Mutasaabeq: 53 (Pleasant Acres/NY);
Sir Winston: 45 (Crestwood Farm/KY);
Avie's Flatter: 43 (Colebrook Farms Stallion Station/ON);
Warrior's Charge: 43 (Irish Hill & Dutchess Views Stallions/NY);
Fire at Will: 42 (Sequel/NY);
Gretzky the Great: 33 (Ocala Stud/FL);
Eight Rings: 27 (Tommy Town/CA);
True Valour (IRE): 22 (Northview Stallion Station/MD);
Title Ready: 20 (Darby Dan/KY);
Collusion Illusion: 18 (Ballycroy Bloodstock/ON);
Mr Freeze: 18 (Raimonde Farms/OH);
Tale of Silence: 18 (Darby Dan/KY);
Sacred Life (FR): 17 (War Horse Place/KY);
Mo and Go: 16 (Daehling Ranch/CA);
Tizamagician: 12 (Milky Way/CA);
Moretti: 11 (Chesapeke Farm/KY);
Serve the King (GB): 11 (Yorktech Racing Stable/ON);
Plainsman: 10 (Buck Pond Farm/KY);
Snapper Sinclair: 10 (Mcmahon/NY);
Mo the Beholder: 9 (Bg Thoroughbred Farm/CA);
Raising the Flag: 7 (Kirton Farms/OK);
Visitant: 5 (Arroyo Vista Farm/CA);
Jackson: 2 (Msh Stallions/FL);
Know it Now: 2 (Schweer Farm/AB)

as always, my biggest FUCK YOU to Coolmore and co.

F U to Rockridge, too...I’m thrilled Mind Control was well received, and I think he’s perfect for N.Y., but almost 200 ? Ugh

[Slewfan2]

Is there a free link to the entire list? Thanks

Sortable by name, mares bred, state/province.
https://www.jockeyclub.com/default.asp? ... es&area=16

Thanks!

My poor Honor A.P....I know his sire was hated by the market and ignored, but is that the only reason he’ bred 39 mares? I suppose it could be that he was unsound, but he was super talented and gorgeous .....seriously untalented horses have bred more mares than that. I think he’ll be a really good sire, but LE isn’t going to be able to keep standing him, so he’d better have major promising results to justify his continued residence there. Worse for him, in 2022, he bred 81 mares (down from 110) and had only 55 live foals.

[Izvestia]

It is remarkable that the USTA is able to limit Standardbred stallions to 140 mares yet the JC yielded to the stud farms who complained at the mere suggestion of such a rule for Thoroughbreds. Perhaps it is the difference in the amount of money involved - the highest STB stud fee is $40k.

Here are the stallions that caught my eye going through the lower tiers of the list:
Done Talking - 30 single-hoovedly keeping TB breeding in SC alive, and I bet most of these are his owner's mares
Mineshaft - 26
Smarty Jones - 20 a respectable number for the old fellow
Eagle - 13 moved to Uruguay after this season
Big Brown - 12
Flying Honeypot - 12 was pulled up and vanned off in his final race in 2022 so it's good to see he found a soft landing
Freud - 10 he's still hanging around
Accelerate - 9 what is he doing at $10k next year?
Palace Malice - 6 should be out of KY soon
Morning Stride - 5 was pulled up and vanned off in his last race in March 2023 after a year-long layoff and was bought to stand in AZ
Visitant - 5 was retired to stud in 2023, returned to racing and after a couple decent efforts is running in the Lure Stakes tomorrow
Gio Ponti - 3 also surprised he's still in KY
Greatness - 3 the last Mr. Prospector
Time Bandit - 3 more like time traveler, this guy is 27! https://www.pedigreequery.com/time+bandit he's by Time for a Change out of La Voyageuse by Tentam
Flap Jack - 2 also pulled up/vanned off in his last March 2023 start but was scooped up to stand in AR
Stroll - 2
Denis of Cork - 1 this is a big drop and surprising to me since I see his babies all the time at Charles Town
Giacomo - 1
I'll Have Another - 1
Satans Irish Debut - 1 rarest pedigree award https://www.pedigreequery.com/satans+irish+debut
Sea All Watchin - 1 I believe this is the only color stallion on this report, of course breeding as a 3yo

Sad to see some of these guys so low.

[Ziggypop]

1st year sires:
Golden Pal: 292 (Ashford/KY);
Epicenter: 262 (Ashford/KY);
Jack Christopher: 247 (Ashford/KY);
Olympiad: 228 (Gainesway/KY);
Cyberknife: 223 (Spendthrift/KY);
Mandaloun: 211 (Juddmonte/KY);
Nashville: 204 (WinStar/KY);
Drain the Clock: 199 (Gainesway/KY);
Life is Good: 192 (WinStar/KY);
Early Voting: 191 (Ashford/KY);
Mind Control: 190 (Rockridge/NY);
Mo Donegal: 186 (Spendthrift/KY);
Jackie's Warrior: 182 (Spendthrift/KY);
Corniche: 180 (Ashford/KY);
Greatest Honour: 178 (Spendthrift/KY);
Roadster: 153 (Ocala Stud/FL);
Flightline: 152 (Lane's End/NY);
Speaker's Corner: 149 (Darley/KY);
Pinehurst: 146 (Walmac/KY);
Mystic Guide: 145 (Darley/KY);
Highly Motivated: 141 (Airdrie/KY);
Colonel Liam: 138 (Ocala Stud/FL);
Idol: 128 (Taylor Made/KY);
Magic on Tap: 88 (Pleasant Acres/FL);
Aloha West: 83 (Mill Ridge/KY);
Happy Saver: 74 (Airdrie/KY);
Keepmeinmind: 70 (Sequel/NY);
Mutasaabeq: 53 (Pleasant Acres/NY);
Sir Winston: 45 (Crestwood Farm/KY);
Avie's Flatter: 43 (Colebrook Farms Stallion Station/ON);
Warrior's Charge: 43 (Irish Hill & Dutchess Views Stallions/NY);
Fire at Will: 42 (Sequel/NY);
Gretzky the Great: 33 (Ocala Stud/FL);
Eight Rings: 27 (Tommy Town/CA);
True Valour (IRE): 22 (Northview Stallion Station/MD);
Title Ready: 20 (Darby Dan/KY);
Collusion Illusion: 18 (Ballycroy Bloodstock/ON);
Mr Freeze: 18 (Raimonde Farms/OH);
Tale of Silence: 18 (Darby Dan/KY);
Sacred Life (FR): 17 (War Horse Place/KY);
Mo and Go: 16 (Daehling Ranch/CA);
Tizamagician: 12 (Milky Way/CA);
Moretti: 11 (Chesapeke Farm/KY);
Serve the King (GB): 11 (Yorktech Racing Stable/ON);
Plainsman: 10 (Buck Pond Farm/KY);
Snapper Sinclair: 10 (Mcmahon/NY);
Mo the Beholder: 9 (Bg Thoroughbred Farm/CA);
Raising the Flag: 7 (Kirton Farms/OK);
Visitant: 5 (Arroyo Vista Farm/CA);
Jackson: 2 (Msh Stallions/FL);
Know it Now: 2 (Schweer Farm/AB)

as always, my biggest FUCK YOU to Coolmore and co.

F U to Rockridge, too...I’m thrilled Mind Control was well received, and I think he’s perfect for N.Y., but almost 200 ? Ugh

I think it is utterly unethical the amount mares. And yes, “fuck you” to Greedmore.

[mariasmon]

I'm curious about Scalding. He got 16 mares in KY, but isn't advertised anywhere. We know at least one mare was Pine Needles.

[Flanders]

I'm curious about Scalding. He got 16 mares in KY, but isn't advertised anywhere. We know at least one mare was Pine Needles.

okay so this might be a stretch but maybe not.... She was bought by Pin Oak last year. His digital cert. is with Pin Oak. I wonder if they are private standing him there as their only stallion? Because they didn't own him when he was racing.

Edit to add:

Look at this:
https://www.louisianabred.com/default.aspx?pid=274

There are 6 mares, Allsquare, Chatelet, Drunk Dial, Hennythelovepenny, Maritime Connection, and Wealthy Shipman who had foals in Lousiana in 2023 and are all owned by Pin Oak that were then bred back to Scalding. So they foaled in Louisiana and were shipped back to Kentucky to be covered, so that is 7 mares (the only 7 mares we know) out of 16 and all were owned by Pin Oak.

[brunanas]

Flightline's full book is here!

Meet The Mares Of Flightline’s Inaugural Book At Stud
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... k-at-stud/

[mariasmon]

I'm curious about Scalding. He got 16 mares in KY, but isn't advertised anywhere. We know at least one mare was Pine Needles.

okay so this might be a stretch but maybe not.... She was bought by Pin Oak last year. His digital cert. is with Pin Oak. I wonder if they are private standing him there as their only stallion? Because they didn't own him when he was racing.

Edit to add:

Look at this:
https://www.louisianabred.com/default.aspx?pid=274

There are 6 mares, Allsquare, Chatelet, Drunk Dial, Hennythelovepenny, Maritime Connection, and Wealthy Shipman who had foals in Lousiana in 2023 and are all owned by Pin Oak that were then bred back to Scalding. So they foaled in Louisiana and were shipped back to Kentucky to be covered, so that is 7 mares (the only 7 mares we know) out of 16 and all were owned by Pin Oak.

That was my guess back in July.

FWIW, JC lists Scalding at Pin Oak and they're also the listed owner of Pine Needles. Perhaps they are standing him there as a private stallion? The new owners of Pin Oak were doing some shopping at the fall/winter bloodstock and mixed sales.

Another mare who visited Scalding was Pin Oak-owned Cyrielle.

[Flanders]

I'm curious about Scalding. He got 16 mares in KY, but isn't advertised anywhere. We know at least one mare was Pine Needles.

okay so this might be a stretch but maybe not.... She was bought by Pin Oak last year. His digital cert. is with Pin Oak. I wonder if they are private standing him there as their only stallion? Because they didn't own him when he was racing.

Edit to add:

Look at this:
https://www.louisianabred.com/default.aspx?pid=274

There are 6 mares, Allsquare, Chatelet, Drunk Dial, Hennythelovepenny, Maritime Connection, and Wealthy Shipman who had foals in Lousiana in 2023 and are all owned by Pin Oak that were then bred back to Scalding. So they foaled in Louisiana and were shipped back to Kentucky to be covered, so that is 7 mares (the only 7 mares we know) out of 16 and all were owned by Pin Oak.

That was my guess back in July.

FWIW, JC lists Scalding at Pin Oak and they're also the listed owner of Pine Needles. Perhaps they are standing him there as a private stallion? The new owners of Pin Oak were doing some shopping at the fall/winter bloodstock and mixed sales.

Another mare who visited Scalding was Pin Oak-owned Cyrielle.

Yeah I guess that doesn't mean he is at their farm but we know they have stallion facilities. He could be standing privately somewhere else, farms definitely do that sometimes. But I would say if the known 8 out of 16 are all owned by Pin Oak, then they own him at least.

[mariasmon]

okay so this might be a stretch but maybe not.... She was bought by Pin Oak last year. His digital cert. is with Pin Oak. I wonder if they are private standing him there as their only stallion? Because they didn't own him when he was racing.

Edit to add:

Look at this:
https://www.louisianabred.com/default.aspx?pid=274

There are 6 mares, Allsquare, Chatelet, Drunk Dial, Hennythelovepenny, Maritime Connection, and Wealthy Shipman who had foals in Lousiana in 2023 and are all owned by Pin Oak that were then bred back to Scalding. So they foaled in Louisiana and were shipped back to Kentucky to be covered, so that is 7 mares (the only 7 mares we know) out of 16 and all were owned by Pin Oak.

That was my guess back in July.

FWIW, JC lists Scalding at Pin Oak and they're also the listed owner of Pine Needles. Perhaps they are standing him there as a private stallion? The new owners of Pin Oak were doing some shopping at the fall/winter bloodstock and mixed sales.

Another mare who visited Scalding was Pin Oak-owned Cyrielle.

Yeah I guess that doesn't mean he is at their farm but we know they have stallion facilities. He could be standing privately somewhere else, farms definitely do that sometimes. But I would say if the known 8 out of 16 are all owned by Pin Oak, then they own him at least.

There's a decent chance they have him at their Kentucky farm. Crestwood and Darby Dan seem to be the most popular farms to house a stallion who's mostly just covering his owner's mares. I don't think he's at either of those.

[starrydreamer]

Flightline's full book is here!

Meet The Mares Of Flightline’s Inaugural Book At Stud
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... k-at-stud/

Well this makes it much easier to follow his offspring. Thanks!

[Missbeholder]

Flightline's full book is here!

Meet The Mares Of Flightline’s Inaugural Book At Stud
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... k-at-stud/

Well this makes it much easier to follow his offspring. Thanks!

Question: The article says he covered 152 mares and lists them all. Do they know that all 152 of these mares actually got in foal? Or is it possible that he actually covered more mares than this but they didn’t include those that, for whatever reason, either failed to catch or suffered an early loss of pregnancy. The sheds have been closed for about 4 months now, I think, so they surely have definitive data on that by now. Or am I just confused?

TIA!

[Flanders]

Flightline's full book is here!

Meet The Mares Of Flightline’s Inaugural Book At Stud
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... k-at-stud/

Well this makes it much easier to follow his offspring. Thanks!

Question: The article says he covered 152 mares and lists them all. Do they know that all 152 of these mares actually got in foal? Or is it possible that he actually covered more mares than this but they didn’t include those that, for whatever reason, either failed to catch or suffered an early loss of pregnancy. The sheds have been closed for about 4 months now, I think, so they surely have definitive data on that by now. Or am I just confused?

TIA!

He only covered 152 total. There is no way that all 152 mares got in foal/stayed in foal. They don't own those mares to give out that kind of information. They would have to contact everyone who bred a mare to him and say, Hey is your mare still in foal and can we release that information? People aren't going to be having that because a lot can change between now and foaling day. I mean they could say he got X% in foal when covering but they wouldn't know how many are still in foal.

[starrydreamer]

Well this makes it much easier to follow his offspring. Thanks!

Question: The article says he covered 152 mares and lists them all. Do they know that all 152 of these mares actually got in foal? Or is it possible that he actually covered more mares than this but they didn’t include those that, for whatever reason, either failed to catch or suffered an early loss of pregnancy. The sheds have been closed for about 4 months now, I think, so they surely have definitive data on that by now. Or am I just confused?

TIA!

He only covered 152 total. There is no way that all 152 mares got in foal/stayed in foal. They don't own those mares to give out that kind of information. They would have to contact everyone who bred a mare to him and say, Hey is your mare still in foal and can we release that information? People aren't going to be having that because a lot can change between now and foaling day. I mean they could say he got X% in foal when covering but they wouldn't know how many are still in foal.

This.

Sometimes the mare's owner will put in an early No Foal report in Jockey Club. Won't get a picture of his fertility until foaling season ends.