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BaroqueAgain1
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Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:21 pm

Wow...I can imagine the bidding will be intense for some of those mares. I would suspect either Coolmore or the Japanese may try for Alpha Centauri.
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Flanders
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Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:08 pm

They had put their one farm up for sale earlier this year. I think the problem may be that they do really like racing and have let their program get way way too big. Sometimes the best way to preserve it is to cut back some or a lot in this case. As crazy as it seems they could probably sell 100+ mares and it wouldn't make a dent in their broodmare band.
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:21 pm Wow...I can imagine the bidding will be intense for some of those mares. I would suspect either Coolmore or the Japanese may try for Alpha Centauri.
My bet is Japan
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Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:34 pm

Flanders wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:08 pm They had put their one farm up for sale earlier this year. I think the problem may be that they do really like racing and have let their program get way way too big. Sometimes the best way to preserve it is to cut back some or a lot in this case. As crazy as it seems they could probably sell 100+ mares and it wouldn't make a dent in their broodmare band.
Every interview/article with their bloodstock manager just keeps saying “restructuring” but I really do wonder why, just bc im nosy.

I would be surprised if they still had 100 mares total, they have 21 horses in training in Ireland, 12 in England, and 4 in the US. That’s what I could find under Flaxman and Niarchos Family. They do own a couple more in partnerships, mostly with Coolmore. Can’t find how many they own in France though. I know they do sell some as yearlings, like War of Will.
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Northport wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:34 pm
Flanders wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:08 pm They had put their one farm up for sale earlier this year. I think the problem may be that they do really like racing and have let their program get way way too big. Sometimes the best way to preserve it is to cut back some or a lot in this case. As crazy as it seems they could probably sell 100+ mares and it wouldn't make a dent in their broodmare band.
Every interview/article with their bloodstock manager just keeps saying “restructuring” but I really do wonder why, just bc im nosy.

I would be surprised if they still had 100 mares total, they have 21 horses in training in Ireland, 12 in England, and 4 in the US. That’s what I could find under Flaxman and Niarchos Family. They do own a couple more in partnerships, mostly with Coolmore. Can’t find how many they own in France though. I know they do sell some as yearlings, like War of Will.
I could easily be wrong, maybe they are winding their operation down. I just don't know why they wouldn't say that. I know they have mares in Australia, South Africa and Japan as well but no clue how many. This is what I found on France Galop for 2023 and you are right they barely have any horses in training. https://www.france-galop.com/en/breeder ... FmMDJkZz09 Most of these were sent to Ireland or are no longer owned by them.
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HB1994
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Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:14 pm

Nice article on Storm Song, the oldest living BC winner at 29. I wonder if any other mares delivered foals by both Dubai Millennium and Sunday Silence?

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/s ... up-winner/
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HB1994 wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:14 pm Nice article on Storm Song, the oldest living BC winner at 29. I wonder if any other mares delivered foals by both Dubai Millennium and Sunday Silence?

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/s ... up-winner/
Thank you, I somehow missed this article. I started following her because I loved Summer Squall and she was a really nice 2yo. Was sad she never got back to top form at 3.

At least 3, Godolphin sent Storm Song, The Caretaker(dam of G1s Dimitrova & Mutafaweq), and Anna Palariva(dam of MSW Advice, Iguazu Falls and G3/G1p Anna Salai(the dam of Adayar) to Japan to foal out their Dubai Millennium foals, then they were bred to Sunday Silence who died that year in May.
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Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:15 pm

HB1994 wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:14 pm Nice article on Storm Song, the oldest living BC winner at 29. I wonder if any other mares delivered foals by both Dubai Millennium and Sunday Silence?

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/s ... up-winner/
Oh thanks for sharing! I remember watching her Breeders Cup race and cheering her on.
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Flanders wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:05 pm
Northport wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:34 pm
Flanders wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:08 pm They had put their one farm up for sale earlier this year. I think the problem may be that they do really like racing and have let their program get way way too big. Sometimes the best way to preserve it is to cut back some or a lot in this case. As crazy as it seems they could probably sell 100+ mares and it wouldn't make a dent in their broodmare band.
Every interview/article with their bloodstock manager just keeps saying “restructuring” but I really do wonder why, just bc im nosy.

I would be surprised if they still had 100 mares total, they have 21 horses in training in Ireland, 12 in England, and 4 in the US. That’s what I could find under Flaxman and Niarchos Family. They do own a couple more in partnerships, mostly with Coolmore. Can’t find how many they own in France though. I know they do sell some as yearlings, like War of Will.
I could easily be wrong, maybe they are winding their operation down. I just don't know why they wouldn't say that. I know they have mares in Australia, South Africa and Japan as well but no clue how many. This is what I found on France Galop for 2023 and you are right they barely have any horses in training. https://www.france-galop.com/en/breeder ... FmMDJkZz09 Most of these were sent to Ireland or are no longer owned by them.
Nick Luck interviewed Alan Cooper, the Niarchos racing and bloodstock manager, yesterday. Cooper used the word “restructuring” so many times that Luck started to gently mock him a bit by the end of it. But yeah apparently Maria Niarchos is still very passionate about the game and everything being sold does have a reasonable reserve and they are happy to retain whatever doesnt meet their reserves. He said they plan on having around 75 horses in training worldwide next year.
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Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:06 am

MARSHA dies
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flytpthestars wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:06 am MARSHA dies
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Justahorse wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:04 pm
flytpthestars wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:06 am MARSHA dies
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Marsha, the Nunthorpe and Prix de l'Abbaye winner who holds the record price for a thoroughbred sold at auction in Europe, has died aged ten.
At the end of a hugely successful racing career highlighted by those Group 1 strikes, she was offered as a breeding prospect at the Tattersalls December Mares Sale and was bought by Coolmore for 6,000,000gns.

Her career highlight came two months later at York, when under Morris she nosed out Lady Aurelia and Frankie Dettori in the Nunthorpe.
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/ ... lD7C06vXq/

Very sad news, I was a member of the syndicate at the time during her 2 year old season.
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Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:06 pm

Since she was owned by Coolmore, will we ever find out what happened to Marsha?
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Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:50 pm

HB1994 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:06 pm Since she was owned by Coolmore, will we ever find out what happened to Marsha?
I really doubt it. Its surprising we found out that she passed in a timely fashion. It took a long time to find out others passed.
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Flanders wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:50 pm
HB1994 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:06 pm Since she was owned by Coolmore, will we ever find out what happened to Marsha?
I really doubt it. Its surprising we found out that she passed in a timely fashion. It took a long time to find out others passed.
I feel like if she wasnt originally owned by a large syndicate, we never wouldve been told. I’m sure Coolmore felt obligated to tell Elite, hence why Elite made the announcement.
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Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:47 am

why is coolmore so tight lipped abt this sort of thing? horses are fragile and have 1/3 of our lifespan. it's only natural you're going to lose them, eventually. something i try not to think abt as my favourites get older, tho.
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Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:13 pm

Does anyone else remember the mare Zoftig? Grey, graded stakes winner in 2000. Well, her fillies have been ill-fated:

2003 - had a colt
2004 - Zofzig - died 2021
2005 - Zaftig - died 2020
2006 - had a colt
2007 - Jumeirah Palm - still alive (though she was exported, so who knows)
2008 - no foal (bred to Distorted Humor)
2009 - Zo Impressive - died 2020
2010 - had a colt
2011 - Zo Sophisticated - died 2014
2012 - no foal (not bred)
2013 - Zo Zo Striking - died 2021
2014 - had a colt
2015 - no foal (bred to War Front)
2016 - no foal (bred to Uncle Mo)
2017 - no foal (bred to Uncle Mo)
2018 - Incredible You - still alive
2019 - no foal (not bred)
2020 - no foal (bred to Mendelssohn)

She had 7 fillies but only 2 are still alive and one is overseas.
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Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:11 pm

starrydreamer wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:13 pm Does anyone else remember the mare Zoftig? Grey, graded stakes winner in 2000. Well, her fillies have been ill-fated:

2003 - had a colt
2004 - Zofzig - died 2021
2005 - Zaftig - died 2020
2006 - had a colt
2007 - Jumeirah Palm - still alive (though she was exported, so who knows)
2008 - no foal (bred to Distorted Humor)
2009 - Zo Impressive - died 2020
2010 - had a colt
2011 - Zo Sophisticated - died 2014
2012 - no foal (not bred)
2013 - Zo Zo Striking - died 2021
2014 - had a colt
2015 - no foal (bred to War Front)
2016 - no foal (bred to Uncle Mo)
2017 - no foal (bred to Uncle Mo)
2018 - Incredible You - still alive
2019 - no foal (not bred)
2020 - no foal (bred to Mendelssohn)

She had 7 fillies but only 2 are still alive and one is overseas.
Geez. Odd, eh?
I was a fan of her when she ran.
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Flanders
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Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:33 pm

TDN did an article about Sweet Catomine and Life Is Sweet, who are both pensioned and look spectacular.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/t ... eders-cup/
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Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:20 pm

Winter Memories Euthanized in Spring at Age 15
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -at-age-15
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