2023 Matings
- Diver52
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I own a MRH microshare in a two year old colt by Justify out of a Galileo mare, so it's encouraging to see several of them booked to him. Thanks.
I ran marathons. I saw the Taj Mahal by Moonlight. I drove Highway 1 in a convertible. I petted Zenyatta.
- Miss Woodford
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Gal About Town would be nice if the first one's a filly but Fipke would probably go with Galileo's Speight because he doesn't do clever names.brunanas wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:43 pmi vote for Galileo Town and Cat War.starrydreamer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:37 pm Galileo's Lady --> Speightstown (a Fipke!)
Galileo's Wildcat --> War Front (another Fipke! Galileo's War? Galileo's Front? War Wildcat? Wildcat Front? So many options.)
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It'll be Lady Gal Town and Wild Galileo Cat.Miss Woodford wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:14 pmGal About Town would be nice if the first one's a filly but Fipke would probably go with Galileo's Speight because he doesn't do clever names.brunanas wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:43 pmi vote for Galileo Town and Cat War.starrydreamer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:37 pm Galileo's Lady --> Speightstown (a Fipke!)
Galileo's Wildcat --> War Front (another Fipke! Galileo's War? Galileo's Front? War Wildcat? Wildcat Front? So many options.)
- Northport
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Very interested to see how the Into Mischiefs or Gun Runners will fare on Irish turf. Also wouldnt be surprised to see a couple foals out of the tier 2 Coolmore mares (aka not the Winters or Tuesdays) be sold as yearlings.
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- starrydreamer
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Yeah, they've really leaned hard into Into Mischief and Gun Runner. Into Mischief is currently no. 2 on the 2023 Turf Sires by Progeny Earnings chart (Gun Runner is 57th), so while I'm not sure about Irish turf, at least he's a safer bet.
- stelladaniella
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- Location: Paris, KY
Was Rachels Valentina not bred for 2024?
"until you go to Kentucky and with your own eyes behold the Derby, you ain't never been nowhere and you ain't seen nothing!"
- starrydreamer
- Posts: 1145
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All Others Follow (GB) --> Mendelssohn
American West --> Gun Runner
Bengala (FR) --> Justify
Big Birthday --> Early Voting
Brattata --> Justify
Break Curfew --> Essential Quality
Cafe Americano --> Into Mischief
Canteen --> Not This Time
Capital Structure (GB) --> Uncle Mo
Catch a Bid --> Uncle Mo
Chalon --> Gun Runner
Chica Boom Chic --> Keen Ice
Dovima --> Girvin
Feedback --> Constitution
Figure of Speech --> Curlin
Hawksmoor (IRE) --> Justify
Mo Dean --> Life is Good
Morelikelythannot --> Sir Prancealot
Motivated Seller --> Complexity
Multi Strategy --> Golden Pal
Night Owl --> Game Winner
North Broadway --> Improbable
Passive Investing --> Ghostzapper
Pinch of Grace (GB) --> Good Magic
Red Robe (GB) --> The Factor
Reversethedecision --> Early Voting
Risk Model --> Golden Pal
Say Hey (FR) --> War Front
Selflessly --> Flightline
Separationofpowers --> Flightline
Supercommittee --> Golden Pal
Teetotaler --> Into Mischief
Wealth Effect --> Omaha Beach
American West --> Gun Runner
Bengala (FR) --> Justify
Big Birthday --> Early Voting
Brattata --> Justify
Break Curfew --> Essential Quality
Cafe Americano --> Into Mischief
Canteen --> Not This Time
Capital Structure (GB) --> Uncle Mo
Catch a Bid --> Uncle Mo
Chalon --> Gun Runner
Chica Boom Chic --> Keen Ice
Dovima --> Girvin
Feedback --> Constitution
Figure of Speech --> Curlin
Hawksmoor (IRE) --> Justify
Mo Dean --> Life is Good
Morelikelythannot --> Sir Prancealot
Motivated Seller --> Complexity
Multi Strategy --> Golden Pal
Night Owl --> Game Winner
North Broadway --> Improbable
Passive Investing --> Ghostzapper
Pinch of Grace (GB) --> Good Magic
Red Robe (GB) --> The Factor
Reversethedecision --> Early Voting
Risk Model --> Golden Pal
Say Hey (FR) --> War Front
Selflessly --> Flightline
Separationofpowers --> Flightline
Supercommittee --> Golden Pal
Teetotaler --> Into Mischief
Wealth Effect --> Omaha Beach
- mariasmon
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Nothing is reported. And considering pretty much every farm that has a stallion they might use on her has submitted their RMBs, I'd say she got a year off.
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It now sounds like that Kitasan Black(JPN), the sire of Equinox(JPN), covered 270 mares this year.
This isn't great news at all, if that number is really true.
Many Japanese fans are expressing disappointment on racing boards right now.
Last year, Shadai Stallion Station seemed to have limited the number of mares bred to their respective stallions to 200 after early deaths of Deep Impact, King Kamehameha and Duramente.
viewtopic.php?p=268356#p268356
Shadai doesn't want to learn after all???
This isn't great news at all, if that number is really true.
Many Japanese fans are expressing disappointment on racing boards right now.
Last year, Shadai Stallion Station seemed to have limited the number of mares bred to their respective stallions to 200 after early deaths of Deep Impact, King Kamehameha and Duramente.
viewtopic.php?p=268356#p268356
Shadai doesn't want to learn after all???
- brunanas
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oh... uh oh. besides the early death, you'd have thought the overflow of Sunday Silence/Deep Impact blood would've also taught them a lesson, especially given Kitasan Black is by a full to Deep Impact... big yikes.
i like plushies. a lot.
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TWO-HUNDRED and SEVENTY?
That's a lot, even by Spendthrift standards. Were they all on Northern Hemisphere time, or were they at least spread out a bit breeding mares on Southern H. time?
I'm a fan of Kitasan Black, loved watching him race, and I'm very pleased with how well he's doing at stud.....BUT. That is too many mares, at least if you'd like him to have a long life.
That's a lot, even by Spendthrift standards. Were they all on Northern Hemisphere time, or were they at least spread out a bit breeding mares on Southern H. time?
I'm a fan of Kitasan Black, loved watching him race, and I'm very pleased with how well he's doing at stud.....BUT. That is too many mares, at least if you'd like him to have a long life.
- Flanders
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The Southern Hemisphere breeding season would just be starting. They would have all been Northern Hemisphere breedings.BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:13 pm TWO-HUNDRED and SEVENTY?
That's a lot, even by Spendthrift standards. Were they all on Northern Hemisphere time, or were they at least spread out a bit breeding mares on Southern H. time?
I'm a fan of Kitasan Black, loved watching him race, and I'm very pleased with how well he's doing at stud.....BUT. That is too many mares, at least if you'd like him to have a long life.
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Yes.Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:53 amThe Southern Hemisphere breeding season would just be starting. They would have all been Northern Hemisphere breedings.BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:13 pm TWO-HUNDRED and SEVENTY?
That's a lot, even by Spendthrift standards. Were they all on Northern Hemisphere time, or were they at least spread out a bit breeding mares on Southern H. time?
I'm a fan of Kitasan Black, loved watching him race, and I'm very pleased with how well he's doing at stud.....BUT. That is too many mares, at least if you'd like him to have a long life.
Shadai's official numbers will be released before too long.
If the number for Kitasan Black is correct (I hope it isn't, but..), Shadai will have to be booed loudly by the fans in Japan.
Here's a link to one of the fans' message boards.
This is in Japanese. But one may see what's been discussed by the fans through a translator.
https://db.netkeiba.com/?pid=horse_board&id=2012102013
- starrydreamer
- Posts: 1145
- Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:51 am
Frankel broodmares in the US...
Ambrosia (GB) --> Life is Good
Anghaam --> War of Will
Avena --> Nyquist
Cheetah --> Mendelssohn
Light of My Eyes (IRE) --> Karakontie
Rubilinda --> Justify
Yaraki (GB) --> Twirling Candy
Ambrosia (GB) --> Life is Good
Anghaam --> War of Will
Avena --> Nyquist
Cheetah --> Mendelssohn
Light of My Eyes (IRE) --> Karakontie
Rubilinda --> Justify
Yaraki (GB) --> Twirling Candy
- starrydreamer
- Posts: 1145
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Sea the Stars broodmares in the US...
All Others Follow (GB) --> Mendelssohn
Ballymore Star (IRE) --> Munnings
Casual Smile (GB) --> Daredevil
Cedar's Stars (GB) --> Charlatan
Golden Sky (IRE) --> By My Standards
Hebah (IRE) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Lost Stars (IRE) --> Raging Bull
Murafrif (IRE) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Sea the Awesome (IRE) --> Bee Jersey (... yep, you guessed it, Fipke owned. Hoping for Sea the Bee)
Stella Bellissima (IRE) --> Mendelssohn
The Path Not Taken (GB) --> Golden Pal
All Others Follow (GB) --> Mendelssohn
Ballymore Star (IRE) --> Munnings
Casual Smile (GB) --> Daredevil
Cedar's Stars (GB) --> Charlatan
Golden Sky (IRE) --> By My Standards
Hebah (IRE) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Lost Stars (IRE) --> Raging Bull
Murafrif (IRE) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Sea the Awesome (IRE) --> Bee Jersey (... yep, you guessed it, Fipke owned. Hoping for Sea the Bee)
Stella Bellissima (IRE) --> Mendelssohn
The Path Not Taken (GB) --> Golden Pal
- starrydreamer
- Posts: 1145
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Former Wesley Ward and Shug McGaughey trained mares...
Alandra --> Not This Time
Athens Queen --> Maclean's Music
Averly Jane --> Uncle Mo
Awsum Roar --> Bucchero
Baublette --> Cyberknife
Big City Momma --> Epicenter
Blenheim Palace --> Constitution
Britta's Bay --> Golden Pal
Browse --> Curlin
Cambria --> Uncle Mo
Carrumba --> Nyquist
Civil Union --> Gun Runner
Dancing All Night --> Olympiad
Dragic --> Gun Runner
Emotional Kitten --> Big Screen
Fair Point --> Maxfield
Fairyland --> Golden Pal
Fast Retailing --> Jack Christopher
Flower Point --> Tiz the Law
Foolish Humor --> Rowayton
Glamour Puss --> Tacitus
Happy Like a Fool --> Quality Road
Hungry Kitten --> Karakontie
In a Hurry --> Violence
In the Lee --> Charlatan
Judy the Beauty --> Uncle Mo
Kimari --> Gun Runner
Kirby's Penny --> Candy Ride
La Madrina --> Life is Good
Lady Aurelia --> Quality Road
Lamontagne --> War Front
Mae Never No (IRE) --> Life is Good
Mo Knows --> Corniche
Mrs Danvers --> Justify
My Happy Place --> Jack Christopher
My Impression --> Maclean's Music
Naughty Joker --> Essential Quality
Palace Avenger --> Rowayton
Paper Clip --> Golden Pal
Parade --> Munnings
Party Now --> War of Will
Pocket Book --> Rock Your World
Power Move --> Upstart
Price Too High --> Liam's Map
Princess Peggy --> Speightstown
Queen's Parade --> Candy Ride
Radio Days --> War Front
Red Ghost --> Street Sense
Romantic Moment --> Twirling Candy
Ruby Notion --> Oscar Performance
Scampering --> Golden Pal
Seaside Retreat --> Violence
Secure Connection --> Oscar Performance
Sequin --> Upstart
Speedy Solution --> Golden Pal
Spellker --> Kantharos
Star Command --> War of Will
Stolen Holiday --> Into Mischief
Sweet Emma Rose --> Olympiad
Tapitry --> Jack Christopher
Tejana --> City of Light
To My Valentine (FR) --> Golden Pal
Third Draft --> Justify
Twenty Carat --> Gun Runner
Ultima D --> Classic Empire
Vagabond --> Omaha Beach
Windfall Profit --> Liam's Map
Wink --> Violence
Alandra --> Not This Time
Athens Queen --> Maclean's Music
Averly Jane --> Uncle Mo
Awsum Roar --> Bucchero
Baublette --> Cyberknife
Big City Momma --> Epicenter
Blenheim Palace --> Constitution
Britta's Bay --> Golden Pal
Browse --> Curlin
Cambria --> Uncle Mo
Carrumba --> Nyquist
Civil Union --> Gun Runner
Dancing All Night --> Olympiad
Dragic --> Gun Runner
Emotional Kitten --> Big Screen
Fair Point --> Maxfield
Fairyland --> Golden Pal
Fast Retailing --> Jack Christopher
Flower Point --> Tiz the Law
Foolish Humor --> Rowayton
Glamour Puss --> Tacitus
Happy Like a Fool --> Quality Road
Hungry Kitten --> Karakontie
In a Hurry --> Violence
In the Lee --> Charlatan
Judy the Beauty --> Uncle Mo
Kimari --> Gun Runner
Kirby's Penny --> Candy Ride
La Madrina --> Life is Good
Lady Aurelia --> Quality Road
Lamontagne --> War Front
Mae Never No (IRE) --> Life is Good
Mo Knows --> Corniche
Mrs Danvers --> Justify
My Happy Place --> Jack Christopher
My Impression --> Maclean's Music
Naughty Joker --> Essential Quality
Palace Avenger --> Rowayton
Paper Clip --> Golden Pal
Parade --> Munnings
Party Now --> War of Will
Pocket Book --> Rock Your World
Power Move --> Upstart
Price Too High --> Liam's Map
Princess Peggy --> Speightstown
Queen's Parade --> Candy Ride
Radio Days --> War Front
Red Ghost --> Street Sense
Romantic Moment --> Twirling Candy
Ruby Notion --> Oscar Performance
Scampering --> Golden Pal
Seaside Retreat --> Violence
Secure Connection --> Oscar Performance
Sequin --> Upstart
Speedy Solution --> Golden Pal
Spellker --> Kantharos
Star Command --> War of Will
Stolen Holiday --> Into Mischief
Sweet Emma Rose --> Olympiad
Tapitry --> Jack Christopher
Tejana --> City of Light
To My Valentine (FR) --> Golden Pal
Third Draft --> Justify
Twenty Carat --> Gun Runner
Ultima D --> Classic Empire
Vagabond --> Omaha Beach
Windfall Profit --> Liam's Map
Wink --> Violence
- Northport
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- Location: probably near the food
Wasn't the damage to Deep Impact's neck due to overuse from jumping mares? I can't remember if it was ever put in writing by Shadai, but I remember them sounding very sheepish when he died about how this will change their protocols/book sizes in the future.tachyon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:39 pm It now sounds like that Kitasan Black(JPN), the sire of Equinox(JPN), covered 270 mares this year.
This isn't great news at all, if that number is really true.
Many Japanese fans are expressing disappointment on racing boards right now.
Last year, Shadai Stallion Station seemed to have limited the number of mares bred to their respective stallions to 200 after early deaths of Deep Impact, King Kamehameha and Duramente.
viewtopic.php?p=268356#p268356
Shadai doesn't want to learn after all???
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In 2019, Eisuke Tokutake, spokesman of Shadai Stallion Station, didn't deny the possibility that excessive coverings could result in Deep Impact's neck problem. But nothing was put in writing by Shadai.Northport wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:16 pmWasn't the damage to Deep Impact's neck due to overuse from jumping mares? I can't remember if it was ever put in writing by Shadai, but I remember them sounding very sheepish when he died about how this will change their protocols/book sizes in the future.tachyon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:39 pm It now sounds like that Kitasan Black(JPN), the sire of Equinox(JPN), covered 270 mares this year.
This isn't great news at all, if that number is really true.
Many Japanese fans are expressing disappointment on racing boards right now.
Last year, Shadai Stallion Station seemed to have limited the number of mares bred to their respective stallions to 200 after early deaths of Deep Impact, King Kamehameha and Duramente.
viewtopic.php?p=268356#p268356
Shadai doesn't want to learn after all???
And Eisuke Tokutake reportedly hinted at their intension to limit the numbers bred recently (after the death of Duramente at only 9). But, once again, nothing was put in writing.
So Shadai had not announced any change of their breeding policy officially, anyway.
But when they released their 2022 numbers (please see above), racing fans in Japan (including myself) thought that Shadai finally started to limit the number to 200, but....
The causal relationship between excessive coverings and stallion's early deaths is not yet scientifically proven.
But most racing fans in Japan hope that stud farms will limit book size to reasonable levels.
I hope so, too.
Let's see their official numbers later.
-- record numbers-of-mares-bred by Shadai's top stallions:
Lord Kanaloa : 294 mares (in 2018)
Duramente : 290 mares (in 2018) -- died at 9 in 2021
King Kamehameha : 266 mares (in 2010 and 2011) -- died at 18 in 2019
Deep Impact 264 mares (in 2013) -- died at 18 in 2019
- starrydreamer
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- Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:51 am
Mastery broodmares...
Arabian Gazelles --> Munnings
Avignon --> Golden Pal
Awesome Lady --> Tap Back
Beautiful Me --> Maximus Mischief
Catchmeifyoucandy --> Drain the Clock
Changed My Mind --> Vino Rosso
Emmylou --> Mandaloun
Gypsy Glance --> Olympiad
Karmari --> Practical Joke
Masterful Mistress --> Goldencents
Miss Monomoy --> Essential Quality
Mistressof Success --> Drain the Clock
Moonlightdinner --> Roadster
Opalia --> Rushie
Proficiency --> Competitive Edge
Shes Bout a Mover --> City of Light
Super Cat --> Hollywood Handsome
Toosweettobesour --> Nashville
Arabian Gazelles --> Munnings
Avignon --> Golden Pal
Awesome Lady --> Tap Back
Beautiful Me --> Maximus Mischief
Catchmeifyoucandy --> Drain the Clock
Changed My Mind --> Vino Rosso
Emmylou --> Mandaloun
Gypsy Glance --> Olympiad
Karmari --> Practical Joke
Masterful Mistress --> Goldencents
Miss Monomoy --> Essential Quality
Mistressof Success --> Drain the Clock
Moonlightdinner --> Roadster
Opalia --> Rushie
Proficiency --> Competitive Edge
Shes Bout a Mover --> City of Light
Super Cat --> Hollywood Handsome
Toosweettobesour --> Nashville