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Diver52
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Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:50 pm

I own a MRH microshare in a two year old colt by Justify out of a Galileo mare, so it's encouraging to see several of them booked to him. Thanks.
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Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:14 pm

brunanas wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:43 pm
starrydreamer wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:37 pm Galileo's Lady --> Speightstown (a Fipke!)
Galileo's Wildcat --> War Front (another Fipke! Galileo's War? Galileo's Front? War Wildcat? Wildcat Front? So many options.)
i vote for Galileo Town and Cat War.
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Gal About Town would be nice if the first one's a filly but Fipke would probably go with Galileo's Speight because he doesn't do clever names.
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Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:05 pm

Miss Woodford wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:14 pm
brunanas wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:43 pm
starrydreamer wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:37 pm Galileo's Lady --> Speightstown (a Fipke!)
Galileo's Wildcat --> War Front (another Fipke! Galileo's War? Galileo's Front? War Wildcat? Wildcat Front? So many options.)
i vote for Galileo Town and Cat War.
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Gal About Town would be nice if the first one's a filly but Fipke would probably go with Galileo's Speight because he doesn't do clever names.
It'll be Lady Gal Town and Wild Galileo Cat.
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Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:50 am

Very interested to see how the Into Mischiefs or Gun Runners will fare on Irish turf. Also wouldnt be surprised to see a couple foals out of the tier 2 Coolmore mares (aka not the Winters or Tuesdays) be sold as yearlings.
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Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:22 pm

Northport wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:50 am Very interested to see how the Into Mischiefs or Gun Runners will fare on Irish turf. Also wouldnt be surprised to see a couple foals out of the tier 2 Coolmore mares (aka not the Winters or Tuesdays) be sold as yearlings.
Yeah, they've really leaned hard into Into Mischief and Gun Runner. Into Mischief is currently no. 2 on the 2023 Turf Sires by Progeny Earnings chart (Gun Runner is 57th), so while I'm not sure about Irish turf, at least he's a safer bet.
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Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:06 pm

Was Rachels Valentina not bred for 2024?
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All Others Follow (GB) --> Mendelssohn
American West --> Gun Runner

Bengala (FR) --> Justify
Big Birthday --> Early Voting
Brattata --> Justify
Break Curfew --> Essential Quality

Cafe Americano --> Into Mischief
Canteen --> Not This Time
Capital Structure (GB) --> Uncle Mo
Catch a Bid --> Uncle Mo
Chalon --> Gun Runner
Chica Boom Chic --> Keen Ice

Dovima --> Girvin

Feedback --> Constitution
Figure of Speech --> Curlin

Hawksmoor (IRE) --> Justify

Mo Dean --> Life is Good
Morelikelythannot --> Sir Prancealot
Motivated Seller --> Complexity
Multi Strategy --> Golden Pal

Night Owl --> Game Winner
North Broadway --> Improbable

Passive Investing --> Ghostzapper
Pinch of Grace (GB) --> Good Magic

Red Robe (GB) --> The Factor
Reversethedecision --> Early Voting
Risk Model --> Golden Pal

Say Hey (FR) --> War Front
Selflessly --> Flightline
Separationofpowers --> Flightline
Supercommittee --> Golden Pal

Teetotaler --> Into Mischief

Wealth Effect --> Omaha Beach
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Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:11 pm

stelladaniella wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:06 pm Was Rachels Valentina not bred for 2024?
Nothing is reported. And considering pretty much every farm that has a stallion they might use on her has submitted their RMBs, I'd say she got a year off.
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Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:39 pm

It now sounds like that Kitasan Black(JPN), the sire of Equinox(JPN), covered 270 mares this year.
This isn't great news at all, if that number is really true.
Many Japanese fans are expressing disappointment on racing boards right now.
Last year, Shadai Stallion Station seemed to have limited the number of mares bred to their respective stallions to 200 after early deaths of Deep Impact, King Kamehameha and Duramente.

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Shadai doesn't want to learn after all???
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Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:50 pm

oh... uh oh. besides the early death, you'd have thought the overflow of Sunday Silence/Deep Impact blood would've also taught them a lesson, especially given Kitasan Black is by a full to Deep Impact... big yikes.
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Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:55 pm

Actually Kitasan Black is the most proven & promising stallion right now after the passing of Duramente (King Kamehameha) I really loved.
I love Kitasan Black, too, and strongly hope that he will live long.
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Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:13 pm

TWO-HUNDRED and SEVENTY? :shock:
That's a lot, even by Spendthrift standards. Were they all on Northern Hemisphere time, or were they at least spread out a bit breeding mares on Southern H. time? :?
I'm a fan of Kitasan Black, loved watching him race, and I'm very pleased with how well he's doing at stud.....BUT. That is too many mares, at least if you'd like him to have a long life.
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Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:53 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:13 pm TWO-HUNDRED and SEVENTY? :shock:
That's a lot, even by Spendthrift standards. Were they all on Northern Hemisphere time, or were they at least spread out a bit breeding mares on Southern H. time? :?
I'm a fan of Kitasan Black, loved watching him race, and I'm very pleased with how well he's doing at stud.....BUT. That is too many mares, at least if you'd like him to have a long life.
The Southern Hemisphere breeding season would just be starting. They would have all been Northern Hemisphere breedings.
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Flanders wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:53 am
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:13 pm TWO-HUNDRED and SEVENTY? :shock:
That's a lot, even by Spendthrift standards. Were they all on Northern Hemisphere time, or were they at least spread out a bit breeding mares on Southern H. time? :?
I'm a fan of Kitasan Black, loved watching him race, and I'm very pleased with how well he's doing at stud.....BUT. That is too many mares, at least if you'd like him to have a long life.
The Southern Hemisphere breeding season would just be starting. They would have all been Northern Hemisphere breedings.
Yes.
Shadai's official numbers will be released before too long.
If the number for Kitasan Black is correct (I hope it isn't, but..), Shadai will have to be booed loudly by the fans in Japan.

Here's a link to one of the fans' message boards.
This is in Japanese. But one may see what's been discussed by the fans through a translator.
https://db.netkeiba.com/?pid=horse_board&id=2012102013
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Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:43 pm

Frankel broodmares in the US...

Ambrosia (GB) --> Life is Good
Anghaam --> War of Will
Avena --> Nyquist

Cheetah --> Mendelssohn

Light of My Eyes (IRE) --> Karakontie

Rubilinda --> Justify

Yaraki (GB) --> Twirling Candy
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Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:26 pm

Sea the Stars broodmares in the US...

All Others Follow (GB) --> Mendelssohn

Ballymore Star (IRE) --> Munnings

Casual Smile (GB) --> Daredevil
Cedar's Stars (GB) --> Charlatan

Golden Sky (IRE) --> By My Standards

Hebah (IRE) --> Medaglia d'Oro

Lost Stars (IRE) --> Raging Bull

Murafrif (IRE) --> Medaglia d'Oro

Sea the Awesome (IRE) --> Bee Jersey (... yep, you guessed it, Fipke owned. Hoping for Sea the Bee)
Stella Bellissima (IRE) --> Mendelssohn

The Path Not Taken (GB) --> Golden Pal
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Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:25 pm

Former Wesley Ward and Shug McGaughey trained mares...

Alandra --> Not This Time
Athens Queen --> Maclean's Music
Averly Jane --> Uncle Mo
Awsum Roar --> Bucchero

Baublette --> Cyberknife
Big City Momma --> Epicenter
Blenheim Palace --> Constitution
Britta's Bay --> Golden Pal
Browse --> Curlin

Cambria --> Uncle Mo
Carrumba --> Nyquist
Civil Union --> Gun Runner

Dancing All Night --> Olympiad
Dragic --> Gun Runner

Emotional Kitten --> Big Screen

Fair Point --> Maxfield
Fairyland --> Golden Pal
Fast Retailing --> Jack Christopher
Flower Point --> Tiz the Law
Foolish Humor --> Rowayton

Glamour Puss --> Tacitus

Happy Like a Fool --> Quality Road
Hungry Kitten --> Karakontie

In a Hurry --> Violence
In the Lee --> Charlatan

Judy the Beauty --> Uncle Mo

Kimari --> Gun Runner
Kirby's Penny --> Candy Ride

La Madrina --> Life is Good
Lady Aurelia --> Quality Road
Lamontagne --> War Front

Mae Never No (IRE) --> Life is Good
Mo Knows --> Corniche
Mrs Danvers --> Justify
My Happy Place --> Jack Christopher
My Impression --> Maclean's Music

Naughty Joker --> Essential Quality

Palace Avenger --> Rowayton
Paper Clip --> Golden Pal
Parade --> Munnings
Party Now --> War of Will
Pocket Book --> Rock Your World
Power Move --> Upstart
Price Too High --> Liam's Map
Princess Peggy --> Speightstown

Queen's Parade --> Candy Ride

Radio Days --> War Front
Red Ghost --> Street Sense
Romantic Moment --> Twirling Candy
Ruby Notion --> Oscar Performance

Scampering --> Golden Pal
Seaside Retreat --> Violence
Secure Connection --> Oscar Performance
Sequin --> Upstart
Speedy Solution --> Golden Pal
Spellker --> Kantharos
Star Command --> War of Will
Stolen Holiday --> Into Mischief
Sweet Emma Rose --> Olympiad

Tapitry --> Jack Christopher
Tejana --> City of Light
To My Valentine (FR) --> Golden Pal
Third Draft --> Justify
Twenty Carat --> Gun Runner

Ultima D --> Classic Empire

Vagabond --> Omaha Beach

Windfall Profit --> Liam's Map
Wink --> Violence
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Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:16 pm

tachyon wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:39 pm It now sounds like that Kitasan Black(JPN), the sire of Equinox(JPN), covered 270 mares this year.
This isn't great news at all, if that number is really true.
Many Japanese fans are expressing disappointment on racing boards right now.
Last year, Shadai Stallion Station seemed to have limited the number of mares bred to their respective stallions to 200 after early deaths of Deep Impact, King Kamehameha and Duramente.

viewtopic.php?p=268356#p268356

Shadai doesn't want to learn after all???
Wasn't the damage to Deep Impact's neck due to overuse from jumping mares? I can't remember if it was ever put in writing by Shadai, but I remember them sounding very sheepish when he died about how this will change their protocols/book sizes in the future.
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Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:49 am

Northport wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:16 pm
tachyon wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:39 pm It now sounds like that Kitasan Black(JPN), the sire of Equinox(JPN), covered 270 mares this year.
This isn't great news at all, if that number is really true.
Many Japanese fans are expressing disappointment on racing boards right now.
Last year, Shadai Stallion Station seemed to have limited the number of mares bred to their respective stallions to 200 after early deaths of Deep Impact, King Kamehameha and Duramente.

viewtopic.php?p=268356#p268356

Shadai doesn't want to learn after all???
Wasn't the damage to Deep Impact's neck due to overuse from jumping mares? I can't remember if it was ever put in writing by Shadai, but I remember them sounding very sheepish when he died about how this will change their protocols/book sizes in the future.
In 2019, Eisuke Tokutake, spokesman of Shadai Stallion Station, didn't deny the possibility that excessive coverings could result in Deep Impact's neck problem. But nothing was put in writing by Shadai.
And Eisuke Tokutake reportedly hinted at their intension to limit the numbers bred recently (after the death of Duramente at only 9). But, once again, nothing was put in writing.
So Shadai had not announced any change of their breeding policy officially, anyway.
But when they released their 2022 numbers (please see above), racing fans in Japan (including myself) thought that Shadai finally started to limit the number to 200, but....

The causal relationship between excessive coverings and stallion's early deaths is not yet scientifically proven.
But most racing fans in Japan hope that stud farms will limit book size to reasonable levels.
I hope so, too.
Let's see their official numbers later.

-- record numbers-of-mares-bred by Shadai's top stallions:

Lord Kanaloa : 294 mares (in 2018)
Duramente : 290 mares (in 2018) -- died at 9 in 2021
King Kamehameha : 266 mares (in 2010 and 2011) -- died at 18 in 2019
Deep Impact 264 mares (in 2013) -- died at 18 in 2019
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Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:31 am

Mastery broodmares...

Arabian Gazelles --> Munnings
Avignon --> Golden Pal
Awesome Lady --> Tap Back

Beautiful Me --> Maximus Mischief

Catchmeifyoucandy --> Drain the Clock
Changed My Mind --> Vino Rosso

Emmylou --> Mandaloun

Gypsy Glance --> Olympiad

Karmari --> Practical Joke

Masterful Mistress --> Goldencents
Miss Monomoy --> Essential Quality
Mistressof Success --> Drain the Clock
Moonlightdinner --> Roadster

Opalia --> Rushie

Proficiency --> Competitive Edge

Shes Bout a Mover --> City of Light
Super Cat --> Hollywood Handsome

Toosweettobesour --> Nashville
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