Saratoga Sale (2023)

[brunanas]

Think this will stay sound long enough to get that elusive graded stakes win so he can retire to stud?

given it seems that the Beholders don't hold up in general even with patience, and Curlins need patience, no.

How could they pay that much for a horse with that left front? OMG.

tbf, that's what a lot of Into Mischief's look like.

[Flanders]

Ten Blessings?

I was thinking of Take Control.

yeah, now that you mention it... i saw that he was a $7 million yearling RNA and then sold for $1.9 million as a 2yo. sure that's still a really high price, but i wonder what caused that big drop. did the clubfoot become more evident? or were his soundness issues starting to show?

Michael Paulson bid against the other person supposedly, if I remember right. He RNA'd Azeri at 4.4m as well, then sold her for 2.25m later the same year. It was shady af.

[Justahorse]

Look at this tiz the law colt

[brunanas]

Zedan just went to $3.2 million with another yearling (Into Mischief × All American Dream). you know, it'd be really nice if he had the same effort for aftercare. which he doesn't care enough about, as his horses either end up dead or injured for most of their careers before they get sent to stud. but i digress... whatever. not my money, not my monkeys? *slight pun intended... ahem The Green Monkey*

[brunanas]

Look at this tiz the law colt

that's my favorite Tiz the Law from both of his crops. secretly hoping racing isn't his thing so i can hopefully snatch him as a Dressage prospect.

[brunanas]

I was thinking of Take Control.

yeah, now that you mention it... i saw that he was a $7 million yearling RNA and then sold for $1.9 million as a 2yo. sure that's still a really high price, but i wonder what caused that big drop. did the clubfoot become more evident? or were his soundness issues starting to show?

Michael Paulson bid against the other person supposedly, if I remember right. He RNA'd Azeri at 4.4m as well, then sold her for 2.25m later the same year. It was shady af.

but does that still justify the drop? it's still a 5mi+ drop in a RNA. sounds like a lot (though the 2 million drop for Azeri is also a lot).

[Flanders]

yeah, now that you mention it... i saw that he was a $7 million yearling RNA and then sold for $1.9 million as a 2yo. sure that's still a really high price, but i wonder what caused that big drop. did the clubfoot become more evident? or were his soundness issues starting to show?

Michael Paulson bid against the other person supposedly, if I remember right. He RNA'd Azeri at 4.4m as well, then sold her for 2.25m later the same year. It was shady af.

but does that still justify the drop? it's still a 5mi+ drop in a RNA. sounds like a lot (though the 2 million drop for Azeri is also a lot).

There's a lot of unknowns as a yearling that might become more apparent as a 2yo, especially since they work out. I don't remember what he worked at the time, it had to be good enough to still almost get 1.9m but the 7.7m the year before was just too weird. Like maybe it was Paulson bidding against a friend to try and push up the price?

[mariasmon]

Ten Blessings?

I was thinking of Take Control.

yeah, now that you mention it... i saw that he was a $7 million yearling RNA and then sold for $1.9 million as a 2yo. sure that's still a really high price, but i wonder what caused that big drop. did the clubfoot become more evident? or were his soundness issues starting to show?

I think the yearling price RNA price was more a reflection of the reserve than the horse himself. Michael Paulson didn't really want to sell him, but was kind of forced to by the next spring.

[Miss Woodford]

Think this will stay sound long enough to get that elusive graded stakes win so he can retire to stud?

Boy I hope his suspensories hold up...

[HB1994]

I remember disliking Michael Paulson as much as I had liked his dad.

[Flanders]

I remember disliking Michael Paulson as much as I had liked his dad.

Maybe that is why I think he had someone bid up the price of the colt. There was a lot of bad press about him from a few years after his dad died in 2000 until the horses were sold. Which for anyone else who wasn't around then, Allen Paulson set the terms in his trust that the horses were supposed to be sold. It took almost 10 years for that to happen and in that meantime, Michael was buying more with the Trusts money.

[mariasmon]

Take Control as a 2YO, same left front clubfoot as the Beholder colt, but he had better knees and his front pasterns weren't as iffy. The Beholder colt is more powerfully built. He had some ability, if he could've stayed sound.

[TapitsGal]

Wow, $4 mil. Club foot, wonky knees and all. Good luck.

And someone showed me a close up of one of his hooves where he had a pretty big quarter crack

[mariasmon]

Wow, $4 mil. Club foot, wonky knees and all. Good luck.

And someone showed me a close up of one of his hooves where he had a pretty big quarter crack

[Squeaky]

Wow, $4 mil. Club foot, wonky knees and all. Good luck.

And someone showed me a close up of one of his hooves where he had a pretty big quarter crack

This really makes me wonder if these trainers/ agents take advantage of these rich owners who really don’t know much about horses/ conformation.

[brunanas]

speaking of ugly feet, i think this McKinzie o/o Queens Embrace takes the cake.

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[Squeaky]

speaking of ugly feet, i think this McKinzie o/o Queens Embrace takes the cake.
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So upright and such tiny feet on a big body. Ugh.

[Squeaky]

BTW speaking of wealthy newish owners with very deep pockets, D Wayne has found new life with BC Stables who bought some nice yearlings.

[Mylute]

c. War of Will × Pappascat - $650K, Live Oak Plantation (1/2 to Pappacap, Boppy O)

f. War of Will × Queen of Roses - $320K, Thomas Haughey (fam of Mor Spirit)

c. Kitten's Joy × Legal Tender - $275K, West Point (fam of G3W Nomorerichblondes)

c. Volatile × Light of the Nile - $600K, Pin Oak Stud (dam 1/2 to Pioneerof the Nile)

f. Volatile × Clarendon Fancy - $285K, Ocala Stud (1/2 to Catch the Moon, dam of Brightwork)

[Justahorse]

Wow, $4 mil. Club foot, wonky knees and all. Good luck.

And someone showed me a close up of one of his hooves where he had a pretty big quarter crack

This really makes me wonder if these trainers/ agents take advantage of these rich owners who really don’t know much about horses/ conformation.

Someone's gotta make them part with their money