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mariasmon
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:15 pm

Recollection (½ to Imagining) --> Curlin
Rose and Shine (dam of British Idiom) --> Good Magic
Rote (½ to Magnificent Song, dam of Royal Obsession) --> Maclean's Music

Sconsin --> Gun Runner
Secret Jewel (½ to Shared Account) --> Good Magic
Secret Someone --> Curlin
Serena's Cat (dam of Honor Code) --> Charlatan
Serene Melody --> Charlatan
Shadowing (o/o Streaming) --> Curlin
Silvery Starlet (½ to Maimonides, El Corredor) --> Good Magic
Single Solution --> Curlin
Sippican Harbor --> Curlin
Sky Girl --> Maclean's Music
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:52 pm

Sly Storm --> Army Mule
Snowbell --> Good Magic
So Far (o/o Stellar Jayne) --> Violence
Soaring (o/o Streaming) --> Violence
Sociable (dam of Keeper Ofthe Stars) --> Charlatan
Social Queen (GSW, dam of Force the Pass) --> Charlatan
Soot Z (dam of Amalfi Sunrise) --> Charlatan
Sound the Trumpets (o/o My Flag) --> Curlin
Spelling Again --> Charlatan
Streamline --> Yorkton
Sudden Fame (½ to Lady Aurelia) --> Maclean's Music
Sugar Swirl --> Ghostzapper
Summer in Saratoga --> Curlin
Super Phoebe (dam of Got Stormy) --> Caracaro
Sweet Dreams --> Charlatan
Sweet Promises (o/o Life is Sweet) --> Charlatan
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:30 pm

If Charlatan isn't the next coming of Gun Runner with this book, I won't know what to think.
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:01 pm

As good as some of these books are, I’m soo curious to see Flightline’s book. Hard to believe that it won’t blow most of these out of the water, except maybe Gun Runner, and Curlin/Into Mischief always get really stellar books.
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:17 pm

Tamboz (full to Tapizar) --> Good Magic
Temple Street (dam of Donworth, Con Te Partiro) --> Maclean's Music
Temptress (dam of Tenfold) --> Curlin
Tension (o/o Tough Tiz's Sis) --> Curlin
Tiger Moth --> Curlin
Trailblazer (3/4 to In Lingerie) --> Violence
Transportation (½ to Gift Box, Alternation) --> Om
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:37 pm

mariasmon wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:52 pm Super Phoebe (dam of Got Stormy) --> Caracaro
This one is odd to me. I guess they chose him because he stands at Crestwood and Super Phoebe is partially owned by the McLeans. And she hasn't had a live foal since 2020.
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:05 pm

Arrogate daughters, combined list

Adversity (o/o Artemis Agrotera) -> Jack Christopher
Alittleloveandluck (BTW, o/o Points of Grace) -> Munnings
Arrogant Lady (h. to Heartwood) -> Girvin
Arromatic (o/o Jamyson 'n Ginger) -> Greatest Honour
August Bloom (h. to Faypien) -> Charlatan

By the Gate (o/o By the Moon) -> Not This Time

Corbita (o/o Bajan) -> Tiz the Law

Disco Diva (o/o Disco Chick) -> Idol
Dover Dreams (h. to Wavell Avenue) -> Life Is Good

Felicity (o/o Try Your Luck) -> Constitution

Gainsay (Family of Nebraska Tornado) -> Girvin
Gate Closure (h. to Wicked Strong) -> Upstart
Grey Calla (Dam f. to Allamerican Bertie, h. to Hurricane Bertie) -> Jack Christopher

Heavenly Praise (Family of Lewis Bay) -> Bolt d'Oro

Lismullin (Dam h. to Shotgun Kowboy) -> Audible
Loretta Jo (o/o Maria Maria) -> Cyberknife

Mercian Lady (Family of A.P. Indian) -> Jack Christopher
Mirasol (h. to New Year's Day, Mohaymen, etc.) -> Justify

Openthegate (Dam h. to Thisskyhasnolimit) -> Early Voting

Sage Hill (o/o Engaginglee) -> Eight Rings
Sally's Alley (2nd dam Sweet Kitten) -> Volatile
Shandy (o/o Sangrita, dam h. to Offlee Wild) -> Girvin
Senson (Family of Comet Shine, Sky Colony) -> Name Changer
She Gogo (2nd dam Quiet Dance) -> Life Is Good
Smooth Mover (Dam h. to Monba) -> Girvin
Song Gate (o/o Songbird) -> Flightline
Stormy Skies (Family of Skygaze, Sky Cape) -> Blame
Summer Takeover (5th dam Toll Booth) -> Maximus Mischief

Usurped (h. to Iotapa) -> Good Magic

Vote Nay (o/o Perfect Pic) -> Cyberknife
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Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:19 am

Flanders wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:37 pm
mariasmon wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:52 pm Super Phoebe (dam of Got Stormy) --> Caracaro
This one is odd to me. I guess they chose him because he stands at Crestwood and Super Phoebe is partially owned by the McLeans. And she hasn't had a live foal since 2020.
Yeah, I had pretty much the same reaction and reached the same conclusion in the end. Another one that confused me no end was Folklore to Mo Donegal. I get that she hasn't produced anything as a first dam, but she's looking a lot better as a 2nd dam. This is probably her last foal, maybe her 2nd to last if all goes well. Maybe try breeding her to one of the leading broodmare sires?
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mariasmon wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:19 am
Flanders wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:37 pm
mariasmon wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:52 pm Super Phoebe (dam of Got Stormy) --> Caracaro
This one is odd to me. I guess they chose him because he stands at Crestwood and Super Phoebe is partially owned by the McLeans. And she hasn't had a live foal since 2020.
Yeah, I had pretty much the same reaction and reached the same conclusion in the end. Another one that confused me no end was Folklore to Mo Donegal. I get that she hasn't produced anything as a first dam, but she's looking a lot better as a 2nd dam. This is probably her last foal, maybe her 2nd to last if all goes well. Maybe try breeding her to one of the leading broodmare sires?
A bit of research found the main problem with my idea. Which is, of the top 20 leading broodmare sires, only 2 are a) US-based, b) still alive and c) still breeding: Tapit and Medaglia d'Oro. Neither is cheap and maybe they don't want to put that kind of stud fee into Folklore at this stage.
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In other news, here is a live look at me waiting for the late reporting farms to get on with it.

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Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:57 am

mariasmon wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:22 am
mariasmon wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:19 am
Flanders wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:37 pm
This one is odd to me. I guess they chose him because he stands at Crestwood and Super Phoebe is partially owned by the McLeans. And she hasn't had a live foal since 2020.
Yeah, I had pretty much the same reaction and reached the same conclusion in the end. Another one that confused me no end was Folklore to Mo Donegal. I get that she hasn't produced anything as a first dam, but she's looking a lot better as a 2nd dam. This is probably her last foal, maybe her 2nd to last if all goes well. Maybe try breeding her to one of the leading broodmare sires?
A bit of research found the main problem with my idea. Which is, of the top 20 leading broodmare sires, only 2 are a) US-based, b) still alive and c) still breeding: Tapit and Medaglia d'Oro. Neither is cheap and maybe they don't want to put that kind of stud fee into Folklore at this stage.
Yeah I can see them not wanting to put a super high fee into her. They definitely sent her to good stallions in the past though. She's never really had a huge selling yearling. Her highest being Mystic Lore who went for 500k because of Contrail. Maybe it wont matter who the sire is, especially if its a filly. I wonder if anyone tried to buy her daughter, Penthesilea(by Bernardini), back from Morocco. I don't even know if she is still alive but she was bought by Fal Stud and that was the only one I could find.
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mariasmon wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:24 am In other news, here is a live look at me waiting for the late reporting farms to get on with it.

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hahaha

I just don't understand how farms, don't have someone on top of that. Maybe because the Jockey Club didn't do their annual reminder on Bloodhorse, etc. the farms forget. ;)
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mariasmon wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:24 am In other news, here is a live look at me waiting for the late reporting farms to get on with it.

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Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:34 am

Song Gate (o/o Songbird) —> Flightline
Expo Gold (dam of Swiss Skydiver) —> Flightline
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Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:49 am

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Lane's End:
Accelerate: 9 (46)
Candy Ride: 103 (132)
Catalina Cruiser: 60 (72)
City of Light: 85 (132)
Connect: 45 (172)
Daredevil: 41 (76)
Game Winner: 96 (131)
Gift Box: 31 (77)
Honor A.P.: 39 (81)
Honor Code: 38 (44)
Lexitonian: 46 (90)
Liam's Map: 157 (177)
Mineshaft: 26 (38)
Quality Road: 109 (156)
The Factor: 36 (52)
Tonalist: 115 (87)
Twirling Candy: 130 (176)
Union Rags: 43 (115)
West Coast: 13 (55)
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brunanas wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:49 am Image

Lane's End:
Accelerate: 9 (46)
Candy Ride: 103 (132)
Catalina Cruiser: 60 (72)
City of Light: 85 (132)
Connect: 45 (172)
Daredevil: 41 (76)
Game Winner: 96 (131)
Gift Box: 31 (77)
Honor A.P.: 39 (81)
Honor Code: 38 (44)
Lexitonian: 46 (90)
Liam's Map: 157 (177)
Mineshaft: 26 (38)
Quality Road: 109 (156)
The Factor: 36 (52)
Tonalist: 115 (87)
Twirling Candy: 130 (176)
Union Rags: 43 (115)
West Coast: 13 (55)
Looks like west coast and accelerate could be leaving. And oof to the numbers of union rags
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Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:04 am

Come a Callin (dam of Caledonia Road) → Flightline;
Love Contract (dam of Bella Sofia, 3rd dam is full to What a Pleasure) → Flightline;
True Feelings (½ to the dam of Wait a While, dam is ½ to the dam of Lookin at Lucky) → Flightline
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Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:14 am

Separationofpowers → Flightline
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Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:21 am

Bellagamba (ARG) (champion in Argentina, ½ to MG1W [ARG] Fairy Magic, granddam is full to Argentinian HOTY Fain) → Flightline
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Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:25 am

Joyful Cadence (½ to Country Grammer) → Flightline
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