Tracking Progeny in other Countries

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Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:02 pm

I have found a website for Belize. Not very detailed but I have gleaned some info from it.
https://horseracingbelize.com/horses/

It looks like a 1/2 to Nashville - Market Cap - is now racing there under the name Brittany's Candy.

Padrino (Mist of Malibu x Ali High, by High Miner) won the first Belize Triple Crown in 2017. Silks look familiar.
https://horseracingbelize.com/belize-tr ... ries-2017/

STALLIONS:
Reach for a Kitten (full to Admiral Kitten)
Prince of Saltlake (by Salt Lake)
Mist of Malibu (by Malibu Moon)
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Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:09 pm

Mylute wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:50 pm Found some Czech Republic stuff. A lot of the eastern (and central) European countries kind of "overlap" when it comes to breeding, so a lot of Czech mares go to German stallions and vice versa, and so on.
http://www.cschpmdk.cz/plemenici
http://www.dostihyjc.cz/
Three years later...I have found the same website.
https://www.dostihy.fitmin.cz/chov/well ... x=0&op.y=0
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Does anyone have any resource to track stallions in Mexico?
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stelladaniella wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 7:17 am Does anyone have any resource to track stallions in Mexico?
Good question. I've been wondering about Math Wizard.
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Mylute wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 8:26 am
stelladaniella wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 7:17 am Does anyone have any resource to track stallions in Mexico?
Good question. I've been wondering about Math Wizard.
Looking for Famous Again, if he is still alive he should be in Mexico.
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stelladaniella wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 7:17 am Does anyone have any resource to track stallions in Mexico?
Mylute wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 8:26 am Good question. I've been wondering about Math Wizard.
I'll update this if I find something actually useful but right now, what I found as the "supposed" Mexican Jockey Club site looks like it was made in 1996, says it was last updated in 2015 or 2016 but all the links are 404 Errors and do not work. Also it doesn't look to have had anywhere to search anything. Its just basic, this is how you register a horse but it says send money to X place, if US-bred send money to US Jockey Club. They might not have anything online. Mexico has always been pretty tough to find horse racing news out of. I did find another site that is sort of helpful for Mylute. It isn't what you were looking for though.

This site I'm going to link is the nomination site for the Copa Criadores, which translates to Breeders Cup(its the Cup races). This has a list of stallions whose foals are eligible that stood in 2020, Famous Again isn't on there, Math Wizard wouldn't have been there yet. They have a 2023 leading site list, Famous Again is not on it, which would lead me to believe is pensioned or dead(he would be 27). He had stood at Rancho Pozo de Luna, San Luis Potosi, Mexico his entire career as far as I can find. He has 153 foals of racing age(according to Equineline), of which 83 are "supposedly" on PedigreeQuery with the youngest having been foaled in 2016. Pozo de Luna does have their foals on this site and he doesn't have any listed, if you have auto translate on its Moonwith Ranch.

Math Wizard DOES have breedings listed under nominations-->Mexican Futurity--> Future 2025, I like that it translates to Nominations In Belly. :) They were all bred by Rancho San Jorge, which is St. George Stable that owned Letruska(auto translate is going to change it to San George Ranch) and I've found they also race under Cuandra San George(there is a facebook page for this but it might be a fan page) https://www.facebook.com/p/Cuadra-San-J ... 860086455/. I found this cause I just watched the Clásico Letruska https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3U7gXjJrxM. Math Wizard is on True Nicks as well saying he stands at Rancho San Jorge(not that that helps much since I can't find a site).
http://criadorespurasangre.mx/index.php ... Itemid=101

And though this really doesn't fit into this category, I found a blog where they cover racing news from all the Americas(North, Central, South), including quite a few I think are hard/impossible to find stories from. If you scroll to bottom you can click on a country and it will pull up racing news. Not saying it will give you what you want but maybe or could even contact the blogger?
https://diezfurlongs.com/
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Wed May 17, 2023 9:04 am

A long time ago I did find a stud farm site with stallions listed - Rancho Natoches.
https://www.ranchonatoches.com.mx/index.html

They stand GSW millionaire Win Willy and Fayeq, a winning 1/2 to Rachel Alexandra as well as QHs.
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Flanders wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:14 pm
stelladaniella wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 7:17 am Does anyone have any resource to track stallions in Mexico?
Mylute wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 8:26 am Good question. I've been wondering about Math Wizard.
I'll update this if I find something actually useful but right now, what I found as the "supposed" Mexican Jockey Club site looks like it was made in 1996, says it was last updated in 2015 or 2016 but all the links are 404 Errors and do not work. Also it doesn't look to have had anywhere to search anything. Its just basic, this is how you register a horse but it says send money to X place, if US-bred send money to US Jockey Club. They might not have anything online. Mexico has always been pretty tough to find horse racing news out of. I did find another site that is sort of helpful for Mylute. It isn't what you were looking for though.

This site I'm going to link is the nomination site for the Copa Criadores, which translates to Breeders Cup(its the Cup races). This has a list of stallions whose foals are eligible that stood in 2020, Famous Again isn't on there, Math Wizard wouldn't have been there yet. They have a 2023 leading site list, Famous Again is not on it, which would lead me to believe is pensioned or dead(he would be 27). He had stood at Rancho Pozo de Luna, San Luis Potosi, Mexico his entire career as far as I can find. He has 153 foals of racing age(according to Equineline), of which 83 are "supposedly" on PedigreeQuery with the youngest having been foaled in 2016. Pozo de Luna does have their foals on this site and he doesn't have any listed, if you have auto translate on its Moonwith Ranch.

Math Wizard DOES have breedings listed under nominations-->Mexican Futurity--> Future 2025, I like that it translates to Nominations In Belly. :) They were all bred by Rancho San Jorge, which is St. George Stable that owned Letruska(auto translate is going to change it to San George Ranch) and I've found they also race under Cuandra San George(there is a facebook page for this but it might be a fan page) https://www.facebook.com/p/Cuadra-San-J ... 860086455/. I found this cause I just watched the Clásico Letruska https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3U7gXjJrxM. Math Wizard is on True Nicks as well saying he stands at Rancho San Jorge(not that that helps much since I can't find a site).
http://criadorespurasangre.mx/index.php ... Itemid=101

And though this really doesn't fit into this category, I found a blog where they cover racing news from all the Americas(North, Central, South), including quite a few I think are hard/impossible to find stories from. If you scroll to bottom you can click on a country and it will pull up racing news. Not saying it will give you what you want but maybe or could even contact the blogger?
https://diezfurlongs.com/
Thanks Flanders.
I was trying to look up Pozo de Luna but all I find are wine sites.. :roll: I don't speak a word of spanish so I can't even begin to try and direct myself with the google searches.
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Wed May 24, 2023 2:44 pm

I thought I would try again - I got no reply from various studbooks in Argentina or Brazil even after 3 emails so help please on any of these stallions
It was the same for Italy but will try again there


ARGENTINA
b. 1981 Fitzcarroldo - height
b. 1974 Cipayo - height
b. 1955 Lacydon - height and when he died and what if known what of
b.1962 Cambremont - height
b. 1952 Tatan - height
b.1943 THE YUVARAJ - height
b.1934 Full Sail - height
b.1943 SEDUCTOR - height
b.1948 Sideral - height
b.1959 EL CENTAURO - height




BRAZIL

born 1935 Legend of France by Dark Legend
born 1930 King Salmon by Salmon-Trout
born 1934 Teleferique by Bacteriophage
born 1950 Dragon Blanc by Brantome
born 1929 Royal Dancer by Blandford
born 1931 Formasterus by Asterus
born 1947 Maki (BRZ) by Formasterus


born 1962 I Say by SAYAJIRAO
born 1976 Clackson (BRZ) by I Say

born 1955 Major Portion by Court Martial I think may have died late 1970's - do we know what off and when?

born 1968 Kublai Khan (ARG) by Sideral (ARG)
born 1968 Falkland by Right Royal V

born 1986 Legal Case by Alleged

born 1965 Felicio (FR) by Shantung
born 1983 Itajara (BRZ) died 1995 aged 12 any idea what off ? also his height?



born 1972 Konigssee by Soderini -

born 1942 Coaraze by Tourbillon
born 1961 Dulcor (BRZ) by Coaraze

born 1953 Svengali (BRZ) by Fort Napoleon
born 1944 Sandjar by Goya

born 1948 Pharas (FR) by Pharis
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I found a site to see horses born in Russia. I've found it useful to see which horses have gone to stud and whatnot. (Finally saw some offspring for Candy Boy.)https://base.ruhorses.ru/horses/1/en?se ... ME&search=
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https://www.jbis.jp/ (English)
https://www.jbis.or.jp/ (Japanese)
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Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:05 am

ribot90 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 2:44 pm I thought I would try again - I got no reply from various studbooks in Argentina or Brazil even after 3 emails so help please on any of these stallions
It was the same for Italy but will try again there


ARGENTINA
b. 1981 Fitzcarroldo - height
b. 1974 Cipayo - height
b. 1955 Lacydon - height and when he died and what if known what of
b.1962 Cambremont - height
b. 1952 Tatan - height
b.1943 THE YUVARAJ - height
b.1934 Full Sail - height
b.1943 SEDUCTOR - height
b.1948 Sideral - height
b.1959 EL CENTAURO - height




BRAZIL

born 1935 Legend of France by Dark Legend
born 1930 King Salmon by Salmon-Trout
born 1934 Teleferique by Bacteriophage
born 1950 Dragon Blanc by Brantome
born 1929 Royal Dancer by Blandford
born 1931 Formasterus by Asterus
born 1947 Maki (BRZ) by Formasterus


born 1962 I Say by SAYAJIRAO
born 1976 Clackson (BRZ) by I Say

born 1955 Major Portion by Court Martial I think may have died late 1970's - do we know what off and when?

born 1968 Kublai Khan (ARG) by Sideral (ARG)
born 1968 Falkland by Right Royal V

born 1986 Legal Case by Alleged

born 1965 Felicio (FR) by Shantung
born 1983 Itajara (BRZ) died 1995 aged 12 any idea what off ? also his height?



born 1972 Konigssee by Soderini -

born 1942 Coaraze by Tourbillon
born 1961 Dulcor (BRZ) by Coaraze

born 1953 Svengali (BRZ) by Fort Napoleon
born 1944 Sandjar by Goya

born 1948 Pharas (FR) by Pharis
Itajara was a really well regarded horse in Brazil. He died on Feb 20th, 1994 of equine protozoal myeloencephalitis at Haras El Alfafar, in Argentina.

This page has a lot of of articles but they are all in Portuguese. I am tried to read threw some of them, but couldn’t find his actual height. My grand dad was the oldest member at the São Paulo jockey club at the time of his passing, I am sure he would had all the answers if he was still alive😔. I will try to ask my aunt is she knowns. Brunanas might be able to help since she lives in Brazil.
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unfortunately our studbook is... very... incomplete. can't really find much info other than race record and progeny.
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Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:57 am

Julky thanks for answering appreciated - its been a real struggle to get answers for old stallions in Argentina/Chile/Brazil - so every one helps alot thanks again Ribot
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ribot90 wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:57 am Julky thanks for answering appreciated - its been a real struggle to get answers for old stallions in Argentina/Chile/Brazil - so every one helps alot thanks again Ribot
Ribot,

Not sure what happened to the link in my previous post. But here it is:

https://jcb.com.br/home/noticias/314314 ... a-machado/
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brunanas wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:51 pm unfortunately our studbook is... very... incomplete. can't really find much info other than race record and progeny.
Nada e facial ou complete quando se trata de papelada no Brasil. 😂
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Julky wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:45 am
brunanas wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:51 pm unfortunately our studbook is... very... incomplete. can't really find much info other than race record and progeny.
Nada e facial ou complete quando se trata de papelada no Brasil. 😂
:P :lol:
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Does anyone know an updated link to track horses in Spain? The link previously provided didn't work for me
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Nenikikamen23 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:04 pm Does anyone know an updated link to track horses in Spain? The link previously provided didn't work for me
I found their studbook where you can search for horse's by name, sire or dam but it doesn't have racing results.
https://purasangreingles.com/psi/busqueda.jsp

I used this site to find it by looking at their email address, some countries have sites listed. I don't think that is going to work all the time though cause some have their email addresses as gmail or outlook so I'm guessing those ones do not have sites. You have to click on the region to see the studbooks for that region of the world.
https://www.internationalstudbook.com/i ... tud-books/
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