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Wed May 03, 2023 12:02 pm

I can't get over how lazy and/or uncreative early thoroughbred breeders were, although I am touche-ing myself since I know modern breeders can be as well.

Why on earth did horses race for multiple seasons without names? How can you just not name a horse? How do you get by with just "Filly by Hampton," 'Whalebone Mare," "Lord Clifden Daughter" in studbooks? Don't understand how hard it is to come up with a name.
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Wed May 03, 2023 12:04 pm

Mylute wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:02 pm How do you get by with just "Filly by Hampton," 'Whalebone Mare," "Lord Clifden Daughter" in studbooks? Don't understand how hard it is to come up with a name.
i think in these cases they were named but names got lost in time. might be wrong though
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Wed May 03, 2023 12:15 pm

Mylute wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:02 pm How do you get by with just "Filly by Hampton," 'Whalebone Mare," "Lord Clifden Daughter" in studbooks? Don't understand how hard it is to come up with a name.
yeah its weird they were allowed to race/breed without names. That was one of the parts I found interesting about Hampton and then that when he was named in November of his 2yo year, the best they could come up with was the racetrack he had just won at.
brunanas wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:04 pm i think in these cases they were named but names got lost in time. might be wrong though
If they had registered names they would have names. Wetherbys has kept the General Stud Book since 1791 continuously.

Like look at this: http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedig ... truenick=Y
There is no way they wouldn't know the names of these mares when they had weights for all the races from their sire. It more looks like whoever bred them didn't feel the need to name a female horse, as a lot of the dams aren't named either. "has vagina, doesn't deserve name"
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Flanders wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:15 pm "has vagina, doesn't deserve name"
seems awfully accurate for the time :lol:
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Wed May 03, 2023 12:35 pm

brunanas wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:24 pm
Flanders wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:15 pm "has vagina, doesn't deserve name"
seems awfully accurate for the time :lol:
I just realized the mares are by 2 different stallions named Hampton but my thoughts on the situation stay the same. I think it got less over time until the General Studbook must have made a rule that required naming.
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Mylute wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:02 pm I can't get over how lazy and/or uncreative early thoroughbred breeders were, although I am touche-ing myself since I know modern breeders can be as well.

Why on earth did horses race for multiple seasons without names? How can you just not name a horse? How do you get by with just "Filly by Hampton," 'Whalebone Mare," "Lord Clifden Daughter" in studbooks? Don't understand how hard it is to come up with a name.
That's an era during which a horses still served in the millions as working animals.
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Katewerk wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 3:21 pm
Mylute wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:02 pm I can't get over how lazy and/or uncreative early thoroughbred breeders were, although I am touche-ing myself since I know modern breeders can be as well.

Why on earth did horses race for multiple seasons without names? How can you just not name a horse? How do you get by with just "Filly by Hampton," 'Whalebone Mare," "Lord Clifden Daughter" in studbooks? Don't understand how hard it is to come up with a name.
That's an era during which a horses still served in the millions as working animals.
Yes, but you still need a way to differentiate between "Whalebone Mare, 1, 2, 3, 4. . . " for breeding purposes--one would think.
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brunanas wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:24 pm
Flanders wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:15 pm "has vagina, doesn't deserve name"
seems awfully accurate for the time :lol:
Humans weren't much different not that long ago.
For example, the wife of John Smith would often be called Mrs John Smith. Mrs actually means "wife of". They enter a party and would be introduced as Mr and Mrs John Smith. She not only took his last name at marriage, but even her first name wouldn't get mentioned at times. Times have changed for wives and mares.
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Flanders, thanks for all that cool history on Hampton. <3
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MTO wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 9:56 pm
brunanas wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:24 pm
Flanders wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:15 pm "has vagina, doesn't deserve name"
seems awfully accurate for the time :lol:
Humans weren't much different not that long ago.
For example, the wife of John Smith would often be called Mrs John Smith. Mrs actually means "wife of". They enter a party and would be introduced as Mr and Mrs John Smith. She not only took his last name at marriage, but even her first name wouldn't get mentioned at times. Times have changed for wives and mares.
Call me old fashioned but when my husband and I get introduced at a social gathering it’s only proper to say Mr. & Mrs. Todd “Smith”. I’m not offended by this at all. 😉
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Maybe from when they were trying to sell him? That screams Taylor Made to me.
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brunanas wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 5:01 pm the polar opposite of "new", but god damn, the knees on Hampton (Lord Clifden × Lady Langden, by Kettledrum), 24 at the time of this picture (1896)...
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Lucky Vega is one hunkuva horse. Like, did First Down Dash sneak into Queen of Carthage's stall one night? :lol:
Book that big ol' bay a trip to Texas, where they LOVE motors like that. :P ;)
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 3:02 am Lucky Vega is one hunkuva horse. Like, did First Down Dash sneak into Queen of Carthage's stall one night? :lol:
Book that big ol' bay a trip to Texas, where they LOVE motors like that. :P ;)
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