2023 Fees

[Slewfan2]

Yeah and that is really good for a regional market. They don't stand for high fees. California has a few that are higher, including his sire Stay Thirsty, but Mind Control is the highest stallion (outside of Kentucky) besides the few in California.

(Dowsing in Indiana does not count, no one is paying 25k to breed to an unraced horse with a turf pedigree. They wont even pay that for a Multiple Champion/MG1 winning turf horse in Kentucky. I guarantee he only breeds his owners mares)

Oh, I didn’t know that, thanks !

NY is a good place for Mind Control, I’m not unhappy - he’d get swallowed up in KY.

I’m not familiar with Dowsing...but $25,000?! No doubt you’re right; are his owners trying to fool breeders into thinking he’s more popular and well regarded than he is ? So that they will breed to him ?

Dowsing has a great pedigree, by Deep Impact out of a 1/2 sister to BC Mile winner Domedriver, from a spectacular female family(Sex Appeal/Best In Show). But is unraced and standing for a ridiculous fee.

Wow.... but yeah, his owners are not doing him any favors at ALL

[brunanas]

Yeah and that is really good for a regional market. They don't stand for high fees. California has a few that are higher, including his sire Stay Thirsty, but Mind Control is the highest stallion (outside of Kentucky) besides the few in California.

(Dowsing in Indiana does not count, no one is paying 25k to breed to an unraced horse with a turf pedigree. They wont even pay that for a Multiple Champion/MG1 winning turf horse in Kentucky. I guarantee he only breeds his owners mares)

Oh, I didn’t know that, thanks !

NY is a good place for Mind Control, I’m not unhappy - he’d get swallowed up in KY.

I’m not familiar with Dowsing...but $25,000?! No doubt you’re right; are his owners trying to fool breeders into thinking he’s more popular and well regarded than he is ? So that they will breed to him ?

Dowsing has a great pedigree, by Deep Impact out of a 1/2 sister to BC Mile winner Domedriver, from a spectacular female family(Sex Appeal/Best In Show). But is unraced and standing for a ridiculous fee.

and his fertility is... questionable.
2017 → 28 mares/11 live foals (39%)
2018 → 22 mares/6 live foals (27%)
2019 → 17 mares/9 live foals (53%)
2020 → 16 mares/9 live foals (56%)
2021 → 15 mares/0 live foals

[RugbyGirl]

Some Australian studs are starting to announce 2023 fees.
All fees are Australian dollars
Darley Australia: (fee last year)
Anamoe by Street Boss $121,000 (NEW)
Astern by Medaglia d'Oro $22,000 ($11,000)
Bivouac by Exceed And Excel $66,000 ($66,000)
Blue Point by Shamardal $44,000 ($44,000)
Brazen Beau by I Am Invincible $44,000 ($44,000)
Earthlight by Shamardal $16,500 ($22,000)
Exceed And Excel by Danehill $132,000 ($132,000)
Ghaiyyath by Dubawi $27,500 ($27,500)
Harry Angel by Dark Angel $33,000 ($16,500)
Impending by Lonhro $8,800 ($22,000)
Kermadec by Teofilo $16,500 ($16,500)
Microphone by Exceed And Excel $33,000 ($33,000)
Palace Pier by Kingman $44,000 ($55,000)
Paulele by Dawn Approach $16,500 (NEW)
Pinatubo by Sharmadal $55,000 ($55,000)
Street Boss by Street Cry $66,000 ($77,000)
Too Darn Hot by Dubawi $44,000 ($44,000)
Victor Ludorum by Shamardal $16,500 ($24,750)

[RugbyGirl]

Newgate Farm stud fees:
Artorius by Flying Artie $27,500 (NEW)
Brutal by O'Reilly $22,000
Capitalist by Written Tycoon $77,000 ($99,000)
Cosmic Force by Deep Field $11,000 ($11,000)
Extreme Choice by Not A Single Doubt $275,000 ($275,000)
In The Congo by Snitzel $33,000 (NEW)
North Pacific by Brazen Beau $22,000 ($22,000)
Profiteer by Capitalist $16,500 ($16,500)
Russian Revolution by Snitzel $88,000 ($71,500)
State Of Rest by Starspangledbanner $44,000 (NEW)
Stay Inside by Extreme Choice $77,000 ($77,000)
Tassort by Brazen Beau $11,000 ($11,000)
Tiger Of Malay by Extreme Choice $16,500 ($16,500)
Wild Ruler by Snitzel $38,500 ($38,500)

Their champion sire Deep Field (13yo) has been pensioned due to fertility issues.

[RugbyGirl]

Rich Hill Stud in New Zealand have also announced their fees
New Zealand dollars this time
Ace High by High Chaparral $10,000 ($10,000)
Proisir by Choisir $70,000 ($17,500)
Satono Aladdin by Deep Impact $45,000 ($12,500)
Shocking by Street Cry $12,500 ($12,500)
Vadamos by Monsun $12,500 ($15,000)

The jump for Proisir is no surprise as his 3yos have had a massive season
https://www.racingnews.co.nz/rich-hill- ... vice-fees/

[brunanas]

same for Satono Aladdin. i wonder if he'll make a permanent move down under eventually?

[BaroqueAgain1]

Their champion sire Deep Impact (13yo) has been pensioned due to fertility issues.

Newgate was standing a sire named DEEP IMPACT? At the same time Japan was standing their Deep Impact?
You can get some interesting name duplications with all the different TB registries.
What was his sire's name? TIA.

[brunanas]

Their champion sire Deep Impact (13yo) has been pensioned due to fertility issues.

Newgate was standing a sire named DEEP IMPACT? At the same time Japan was standing their Deep Impact?
You can get some interesting name duplications with all the different TB registries.
What was his sire's name? TIA.

i think they meant Deep Field.

[RugbyGirl]

Their champion sire Deep Impact (13yo) has been pensioned due to fertility issues.

Newgate was standing a sire named DEEP IMPACT? At the same time Japan was standing their Deep Impact?
You can get some interesting name duplications with all the different TB registries.
What was his sire's name? TIA.

Whoops yes Deep Field have edited it

[brunanas]

Ahorsewithnoname →Cracksman
https://twitter.com/RoadCheltenham/stat ... eE-KA&s=19

[RugbyGirl]

More Southern Hemisphere fees announced:
Arrowfield Stud in Australian dollars (2022 fee)
Admire Mars by Daiwa Major $22,000 ($22,000)
Castelvecchio by Dundeel $27,500 ($27,500)
Dundeel by High Chaparral $82,500 ($66,000)
Maurice by Screen Hero $82,500 ($82,500)
Showtime by Snitzel $16,500 ($11,000)
Snitzel by Redoute's Choice $247,500 ($220,000)
The Autumn Sun by Redoute's Choice $66,000 ($66,000)

[RugbyGirl]

Some New Zealand studs (in NZ dollars)
Windsor Park Stud: (2022 fee)
Circus Maximus by Galileo $17,500 ($20,000)
Profondo by Deep Impact $17,500 (NEW) *book closed
Shamexpress by O'Reilly $8,000 ($10,000)
Turn Me Loose by Iffraaj $18,000 ($20,000)
Vanbrugh by Encosta De Lago $10,000 ($6,000)

Mapperley Stud (2022 fee)
Armory by Galileo $10,000 ($10,000)
Contributer by High Chaparral $18,000 ($20,000)

[RugbyGirl]

More New Zealand Studs in NZ dollars
Waikato Stud (2022 fee)
Ardrossan by Redoute's Choice $10,000 ($6,000)
Banquo by Written Tycoon $3,000 ($4,000)
Noverre by Savabeel $10,000 ($10,000)
Ocean Park by Thorn Park $30,000 ($30,000)
Savabeel by Zabeel $100,000 (Private) *No LFG
Super Seth by Dundeel $35,000 ($35,000)
Tivaci by High Chaparral $12,500 ($20,000)

Highview Stud (2022 fee)
Divine Prophet by Choisir $13,500 (NEW) *relocated *full to Proisir
Santos by I Am Invincible $7,500 (NEW) *relocated
Wrote by High Chaparral $6,500 ($5,000) *The BC winner

[RugbyGirl]

Coolmore Australia:
Acrobat by Fastnet Rock $13,750 ($13,750)
Adelaide by Galileo $5,500 ($5,500)
Best Of Bordeaux by Snitzel $27,500 (NEW)
Churchill by Galileo $22,000 ($22,000)
Fastnet Rock by Danehill $110,000 ($165,000)
Home Affairs by I Am Invincible $99,000 ($110,000)
Justify by Scat Daddy TBC (Returning)
King's Legacy by Redoute's Choice $27,500 ($33,000)
Pierro by Lonhro $82,500 ($99,000)
So You Think by High Chaparral $$99,000 ($93,500)
Starspangledbanner by Choisir $33,000 (Returning)
St Mark's Basilica by Siyouni $44,000 ($44,000)
Wootton Bassett by Iffraaj $93,500 ($71,500)
Yes Yes Yes by Rubick $33,000 ($38,500)

[flytpthestars]

What does TBC mean? TO BE C...?

[brunanas]

What does TBC mean? TO BE C...?

confirmed

[RugbyGirl]

Justify just got his second Australian stakeswinner from 9 to race so far. Bet they are glad they held off that fee.

[Northport]

Justify just got his second Australian stakeswinner from 9 to race so far. Bet they are glad they held off that fee.

He’s only had nine runners so far? Or only 9 stales performers? Do you know how big his debut crop was down there?

[RugbyGirl]

Justify: 9 runners, 3 winners, 2 of them are now stakeswinnners

He has 96 live foals from his first Australian crop of which 65 are now named.

[BaroqueAgain1]

I was a huge fan of So You Think, a horse who ran EVERYWHERE. Does he have any good sons standing now? TIA.