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Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:34 pm

SukiSatsuki wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:16 pm
Mylute wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:18 pm
Flanders wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:25 pm Keepmeinmind to Sequel Stallions in New York for a fee of $6,500.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... l-new-york
Hopefully Sequel will wait before selling this dude to Win$tar.
Or to turkey
What's wrong with Turkey?
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Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:38 pm

brunanas wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:26 pm i think that Sequel usually doesn't sell overseas. now if he does eventually go to WinShit and they send him overseas if he isn't the heir to Into Mischief, that's a whole other issue.
They do, all farms do. Off the top of my head I can think of Desert Party and Destin(was sold before he even had foals of racing age) who were sold to Saudi Arabia. Alpha and Emcee I think were sold to Brazil.
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Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:39 pm

Flanders wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:38 pm
brunanas wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:26 pm i think that Sequel usually doesn't sell overseas. now if he does eventually go to WinShit and they send him overseas if he isn't the heir to Into Mischief, that's a whole other issue.
They do, all farms do. Off the top of my head I can think of Desert Party and Destin(was sold before he even had foals of racing age) who were sold to Saudi Arabia. Alpha and Emcee I think were sold to Brazil.
for some reason i didn't remember these being Sequel stallions at all. i'm not sure about Alpha, but i know for a fact Emcee is in Brazil.
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Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:40 pm

Mylute wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:34 pm
SukiSatsuki wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:16 pm
Mylute wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:18 pm

Hopefully Sequel will wait before selling this dude to Win$tar.
Or to turkey
What's wrong with Turkey?
i'm guessing she mentioned Turkey because besides South Korea it's the country WinStar mostly sends their stallions to (i think)?
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Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:46 pm

Mylute wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:34 pm
SukiSatsuki wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:16 pm
Mylute wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:18 pm

Hopefully Sequel will wait before selling this dude to Win$tar.
Or to turkey
What's wrong with Turkey?
Turkey has a proven record of accidentally killing stallions by giving them black shots to make them keep covering mares when they lose interest after the first 120.

Wait no nevermind that's WinStar. But yeah definitely keep him away from Turkey.


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Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:49 pm

Coltimus Prime is moving to Shamrock Farm in Maryland, will stand for $1,500

https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... -for-2023/
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Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:12 pm

Northport wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:46 pm
Mylute wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:34 pm
SukiSatsuki wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:16 pm
Or to turkey
What's wrong with Turkey?
Turkey has a proven record of accidentally killing stallions by giving them black shots to make them keep covering mares when they lose interest after the first 120.

Wait no nevermind that's WinStar. But yeah definitely keep him away from Turkey.


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They sold destin first year he stood didn’t give him much of a chance
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Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:28 pm

Destin was sold to Saudi Arabia. Additionally, many stallions are owned in partnerships, so Sequel may not have owned all of Destin, Laoban, etc. and the sale was ultimately an agreement between partners. It's also possible Sequel (or some of the original partners) kept shares in Laoban specifically, because they still occasionally post about his runners on social media and did after he was sold.

When I said "maybe Sequel will think twice" I didn't mean only the farm's owner.
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Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:07 pm

Not sure if this was posted. Mohaymen is standing in Ontario for 2023: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... nt-program

Also Tamarkuz.
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Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:33 pm

Mylute wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:28 pm Destin was sold to Saudi Arabia. Additionally, many stallions are owned in partnerships, so Sequel may not have owned all of Destin, Laoban, etc. and the sale was ultimately an agreement between partners. It's also possible Sequel (or some of the original partners) kept shares in Laoban specifically, because they still occasionally post about his runners on social media and did after he was sold.

When I said "maybe Sequel will think twice" I didn't mean only the farm's owner.
Exactly, almost every stallion is owned by a partnership or syndicate. I've typed the "the farms don't own the stallions, syndicates do" so many times on here that I gave up doing it. The farm will typically have an ownership stake in the stallion and the syndicate votes on all major decisions, from if they sell, down to who is and isn't allowed to buy a share. Like for example it was the syndicate members who pushed the sale of Take Charge Indy to South Korea, not Winstar. Then there was that weird lawsuit from that guy that always sues everyone, because he wanted to buy a share of Kingmambo and the syndicate said no because Kingmambo was pensioned. So he sued because they wouldn't let him buy the share.

Sequel and the original shareholders did stay in the syndicate when Laoban moved to Winstar. They probably sold part of the shares and restructured the syndicate when he went to Kentucky.
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Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:13 pm

Izvestia wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:07 pm Not sure if this was posted. Mohaymen is standing in Ontario for 2023: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... nt-program

Also Tamarkuz.
Seven new stallions to Ontario this year:
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... nt-program

Also, Coltimus Prime (Milwaukee Brew) is moving from Florida to Maryland (and used to be in Ontario).
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... -for-2023/
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Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:18 am

Speaking of Turkey I stumbled across video clips of their stallion showcase days last month
Karacabey stallions: Banknote, Epaulette, Kluger, Super Saver https://youtu.be/OMSeCCs1bYk?t=266
Izmit stallions: Bodemeister, a very chonky Authorized, Victoire Pisa, Klimt, Battleground, Myboycharlie, gorgeous as ever Lion Heart, an interview followed by the star of the show the now-28yo Victory Gallop https://youtu.be/Tq8XIHQPdGg?t=265 Later in the video (32:38 to 39:58 and 58:38 to 1:05:35) there are ads for some TJK and private stallions

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Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:42 am

I'm still looking for Turkey's stallion register publication. I want to see any pictures of Voodoo Song, Sadler's Joy, and Catapult...
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Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:58 am

Mylute wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:42 am I'm still looking for Turkey's stallion register publication. I want to see any pictures of Voodoo Song, Sadler's Joy, and Catapult...
https://www.siaysd.org.tr/2023-aygir-katalogu/
Voodoo Song (no updated photo but it looks like he mainly covers the farm's own mares) https://www.siaysd.org.tr/wp-content/up ... NG-USA.pdf
Sadler's Joy https://www.siaysd.org.tr/wp-content/up ... OY-USA.pdf
Catapult https://www.siaysd.org.tr/wp-content/up ... LT-USA.pdf
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Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:21 pm

Fantastic Again won the Leonatus at Turfway... Is he the first stakes winner for his sire?
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Starine wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:21 pm Funtastic Again won the Leonatus at Turfway... Is he the first stakes winner for his sire?
Yes. He hasn't had many starters.
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Flanders wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:04 pm
Starine wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:21 pm Funtastic Again won the Leonatus at Turfway... Is he the first stakes winner for his sire?
Yes. He hasn't had many starters.
Good for Funtastic. Would love to see him get a good horse.
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Starine wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:30 pm
Flanders wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:04 pm
Starine wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:21 pm Funtastic Again won the Leonatus at Turfway... Is he the first stakes winner for his sire?
Yes. He hasn't had many starters.
Good for Funtastic. Would love to see him get a good horse.
Yeah I hope he can succeed too but he is really up against it. He doesn't have any large crops, his first crop(current 3yos) is his biggest one with 23 foals. From 11 starters, he also has G3pW First Peace. I'm not sure what happened with his 2020 book/2021 foals, he covered 54 mares but only had 20 foals, which is really bad.
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Izvestia wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:07 pm Not sure if this was posted. Mohaymen is standing in Ontario for 2023: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... nt-program

Also Tamarkuz.
So Shadwell officially has no more stallions in Kentucky
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TapitsGal wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:08 am
Izvestia wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:07 pm Not sure if this was posted. Mohaymen is standing in Ontario for 2023: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... nt-program

Also Tamarkuz.
So Shadwell officially has no more stallions in Kentucky
Think the writing was on the wall when they sent all their pensioned stallions to Old Friends last year.
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