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Miss Woodford
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Flanders wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:11 pm
Retrospectiv wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:22 am Wasn't sure where to post this but may be of some interest
4 Into Mischief QH fillies coming up for sale

Side note - no wonder the AQHA supports slaughter. Look at the 2nd dam's produce records. One had *44 foals. Another 33 starters so god knows how many foals. Nothing like abusing the embryo transfer rule :roll:

https://statelinenetworkextra.com/2023/ ... 9R5RupgalE
I don't follow AQHA but I read the embryo transfer rules sometime last year. I thought the rule was only one embryo per transfer? I guess I must have misunderstood the article I read, as 2 of the Into Mischiefs in the sale are out of the same mare born 7 days apart. I found an article on AQHA's site that said "if your mare is fertile enough you could get 10 foals a year". Mares aren't supposed to be having litters. Another article said, they can also freeze the embryos for future use, so I guess they could flush her everytime she could get in foal for a year, freeze them and then implant a TON of mares the next year. I suppose though, if they are flushing 4+ out a year and they get one good one that is all that matters. The others can get on a van to Mexico or Canada. Really disgusting.
The USTA (Standardbreds) do it the right way: one foal (ET or natural) per mare per year. And they cap stallions at 140 mares a season. AQHA is just a total free-for-all.
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Miss Woodford wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:46 pm
Flanders wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:11 pm
Retrospectiv wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:22 am Wasn't sure where to post this but may be of some interest
4 Into Mischief QH fillies coming up for sale

Side note - no wonder the AQHA supports slaughter. Look at the 2nd dam's produce records. One had *44 foals. Another 33 starters so god knows how many foals. Nothing like abusing the embryo transfer rule :roll:

https://statelinenetworkextra.com/2023/ ... 9R5RupgalE
I don't follow AQHA but I read the embryo transfer rules sometime last year. I thought the rule was only one embryo per transfer? I guess I must have misunderstood the article I read, as 2 of the Into Mischiefs in the sale are out of the same mare born 7 days apart. I found an article on AQHA's site that said "if your mare is fertile enough you could get 10 foals a year". Mares aren't supposed to be having litters. Another article said, they can also freeze the embryos for future use, so I guess they could flush her everytime she could get in foal for a year, freeze them and then implant a TON of mares the next year. I suppose though, if they are flushing 4+ out a year and they get one good one that is all that matters. The others can get on a van to Mexico or Canada. Really disgusting.
The USTA (Standardbreds) do it the right way: one foal (ET or natural) per mare per year. And they cap stallions at 140 mares a season. AQHA is just a total free-for-all.
Yeah and because the USTA breeders just took it and didn't sue. That is what got the AQHA into the rules they have now. People suing and the judge siding with them over AQHA.
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Epicenter departed for Ashford today.

https://twitter.com/djfiske/status/1613 ... 5pu-emocQQ
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Japanese jumps legend Oju Chosan arrived at Bando Farm today. Farm where he will actually be standing is still TBA, I guess they're still looking. Wish he were in Europe so he could get the National Hunt mares he deserves...

But goodness is he handsome.
Send-off (there's that Stay Gold energy :lol: )-https://twitter.com/toshio_wada/status/ ... 9822138373
Arrival https://twitter.com/furuyatti/status/16 ... 8896937984
brief article https://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/2 ... 3c43847b6b
Love that he's still wearing the signature blue blinkers :lol:
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Those blue 'blinkers' appear to be the sort of hood with ear coverings that they put on nervous horses to muffle any bothersome noise. I would guess that he wore them during transport to make it more peaceful for him.
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:18 pm Those blue 'blinkers' appear to be the sort of hood with ear coverings that they put on nervous horses to muffle any bothersome noise. I would guess that he wore them during transport to make it more peaceful for him.
Ah that makes sense.
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Epicenter had to have second surgery because screws broke in Dec- doing better now moved to Ashford.
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Miss Woodford wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:46 pm
Flanders wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:11 pm
Retrospectiv wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:22 am Wasn't sure where to post this but may be of some interest
4 Into Mischief QH fillies coming up for sale

Side note - no wonder the AQHA supports slaughter. Look at the 2nd dam's produce records. One had *44 foals. Another 33 starters so god knows how many foals. Nothing like abusing the embryo transfer rule :roll:

https://statelinenetworkextra.com/2023/ ... 9R5RupgalE
I don't follow AQHA but I read the embryo transfer rules sometime last year. I thought the rule was only one embryo per transfer? I guess I must have misunderstood the article I read, as 2 of the Into Mischiefs in the sale are out of the same mare born 7 days apart. I found an article on AQHA's site that said "if your mare is fertile enough you could get 10 foals a year". Mares aren't supposed to be having litters. Another article said, they can also freeze the embryos for future use, so I guess they could flush her everytime she could get in foal for a year, freeze them and then implant a TON of mares the next year. I suppose though, if they are flushing 4+ out a year and they get one good one that is all that matters. The others can get on a van to Mexico or Canada. Really disgusting.
The USTA (Standardbreds) do it the right way: one foal (ET or natural) per mare per year. And they cap stallions at 140 mares a season. AQHA is just a total free-for-all.
Agreed 100%
Heck, I'd even be generous and allow 2 from a mare per year (either natural & ET or 2 ET) as we know so much can happen with foaling mares, and then in the 1st year. Only allowing one still leaves a lot of room for not ending up with a foal that year, which is why I'd personally allow two.
AQHA is a cesspool for their slaughter stance, basically no breeding rules, failure to weed out HYPP and PSSM1 early on when they could have and for allowing judges and wealthy owners to ruin multiple segments of the breed. They destroyed halter horses by rewarding breeders who chose to breed more and more extreme traits until they became a cartoon character (much like halter Arabs...). Same for the 17+ hand lanky gimps who dominate the pleasure classes but are trained to not even be able to perform a normal beat canter or lope.
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I really wanna know who was bidding on the Calumet boys.

Also, just as I suspected: Town Bee (full to Bee Jersey) will stand in Manitoba. Two wins from four starts.
https://canadianthoroughbred.com/horse- ... lion-town/

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Just poking through new 2023 stallions and came across French bred SACRED LIFE. By Siyouni… name was familiar since he won the Monmouth this year at 7! He’s standing for $2k in KY.

Hope he gets some good support… gotta love these classy boys who run so long.
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bare it all wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:07 pm Just poking through new 2023 stallions and came across French bred SACRED LIFE. By Siyouni… name was familiar since he won the Monmouth this year at 7! He’s standing for $2k in KY.

Hope he gets some good support… gotta love these classy boys who run so long.
He's being advertised on TVG, er, Fanduel for what that's worth.
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bare it all wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:07 pm Just poking through new 2023 stallions and came across French bred SACRED LIFE. By Siyouni… name was familiar since he won the Monmouth this year at 7! He’s standing for $2k in KY.

Hope he gets some good support… gotta love these classy boys who run so long.
He has his own website http://www.sacredlifestallion.com/
Interesting incentives:
Stud Fee - $2000

Mares who earn black type racing - Stud fee waived and $1000 bonus back to breeder
Mares who have produced black type - Stud fee waived and $1000 bonus back to breeder
Mares who have both earned racing and produced - Stud fee waived and $2000 bonus back to breeder

Conditions: All breeding live foal, stands and nurses.
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Boys at toscanova is gone. Died last month in Korea on the same day as ecton park. He was only 14. No cause of death given for either horse
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Mohaymen will be moving to Northern Dawn Stables in Ontario.
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Fire at Will will stand at Sequel NY for $6,000.

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Highland Reel(IRE)(Galileo) arrived at Narita Airport today.
He will stand at Takaya Shimakawa's S T Farm.

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Colonel Liam has been retired and will stand at Ocala Stud, $6,500 LFSN. hope he gets a few nice mares despite the late retirement.

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Flanders wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:25 pm Keepmeinmind to Sequel Stallions in New York for a fee of $6,500.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... l-new-york
Hopefully Sequel will wait before selling this dude to Win$tar.
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Mylute wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:18 pm
Flanders wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:25 pm Keepmeinmind to Sequel Stallions in New York for a fee of $6,500.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... l-new-york
Hopefully Sequel will wait before selling this dude to Win$tar.
Or to turkey
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SukiSatsuki wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:16 pm
Mylute wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:18 pm
Flanders wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:25 pm Keepmeinmind to Sequel Stallions in New York for a fee of $6,500.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... l-new-york
Hopefully Sequel will wait before selling this dude to Win$tar.
Or to turkey
i think that Sequel usually doesn't sell overseas. now if he does eventually go to WinShit and they send him overseas if he isn't the heir to Into Mischief, that's a whole other issue.
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