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MG1W Glory Vase (Deep Impact) to Breeders' Stallion Station.

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G1 winner Gendarme(USA), 2015H. Kitten's Joy(USA) x Believe(JPN) by Sunday Silence(USA), has been retired from racing.
He will stand at Arrow Stud.

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Hiroshi Fukuda (director of North Hills) said, ''He is a regally-bred who ran well from 2yo to 7yo. He has an excellent speed influence and we North Hills will support him as much as we can.''

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Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:45 pm

6 Calumet stallions heading to January auction
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Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:48 pm

flytpthestars wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:45 pm 6 Calumet stallions heading to January auction
Big Blue Kitten, Hence, Mr. Z, Producer, Optimizer, Real Solution
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... ages-sale/

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Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:23 pm

Optimizer would best fit in VA or MD (or heck, the UK or Ireland) as a flat/jumps/sport sire IMO. He's a 1/2 to the good hurdler Humdinger and 2nd dam Fantastic Find produced (among other things) 3x G1-winner over fences Tax Ruling. He's a nicely-built horse as well.
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Mylute wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:48 pm
flytpthestars wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:45 pm 6 Calumet stallions heading to January auction
Big Blue Kitten, Hence, Mr. Z, Producer, Optimizer, Real Solution
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... ages-sale/

:roll:
Honestly they may as well sell them on since they don't support them. Either that or retire them to Old Friends. I think they've shown before they don't want pensioned stallions when they chose to sell them for under 5k. Like last year's January sale where they sold Behesht(3500) and Snapy Halo(1500). Then before that they put a large number of them in a Keeneland Digital sale, that were then withdrawn and some were sold privately and others just ended up dead. Not saying they did anything to them just that they were never seen or heard from again and then had death reports.
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Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:28 pm

Hence would probably be well-received out west (or the midwest) where he did most of his running and was successful. He is also by a breed-to-race sire.

Maybe Calumet should try having regional stallions a bit more. They can still keep shares.

Also IIRC Mr. Z has decent numbers and also the decent turf filly Eminent Victor. He could probably go anywhere.
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Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:46 pm

How much does a legitimate Eclipse Champion cost? Anyone want to pool $10,000 and send Big Blue Kitten to the Horse Park?
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Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:37 pm

Real Solution could be a nice sire if he went someplace where they'd breed decent mares to him (and more than a handful each year).
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Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:13 am

They baffle me really... They put seasons for all these stallions in the recent (or ongoing) Iowa, Ohio and Indiana Thoroughbred Breeders stallion season auctions. Breedings to at least 2 of them did receive bids in the Ohio auction, I just don't know if there was a reserve. None of them sold in Iowa, though they are all back up as 2nd chance auctions, and the Indiana one starts Dec. 16th. All these stallions are still on there. Like wouldn't the person who bought the season be able to go back on them? I know the seasons are sold as "No Guarantee" but that means "No Guarantee you get a foal", not "No Guarantee we will even own the stallion when the breeding shed opens".
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A 1/50th share in my boy Zarak was sold for 450,000 euros to David Reevers

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Mylute wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:48 pm Big Blue Kitten, Hence, Mr. Z, Producer, Optimizer, Real Solution
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... ages-sale/
Given Calumet's tendency to breed lower tier and low amount of mares, I really don't think majority of these stallions have even had a fair shake at whether they'd be good stallions or not. Majority have decent pedigrees and less than 70 foals in total.

Regardless, I hope for a safe landing for all of them
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Flanders wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:23 pm
Mylute wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:48 pm
flytpthestars wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:45 pm 6 Calumet stallions heading to January auction
Big Blue Kitten, Hence, Mr. Z, Producer, Optimizer, Real Solution
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... ages-sale/

:roll:
Honestly they may as well sell them on since they don't support them. Either that or retire them to Old Friends. I think they've shown before they don't want pensioned stallions when they chose to sell them for under 5k. Like last year's January sale where they sold Behesht(3500) and Snapy Halo(1500). Then before that they put a large number of them in a Keeneland Digital sale, that were then withdrawn and some were sold privately and others just ended up dead. Not saying they did anything to them just that they were never seen or heard from again and then had death reports.
Who had death reports?
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Mylute wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:28 pm Hence would probably be well-received out west (or the midwest) where he did most of his running and was successful. He is also by a breed-to-race sire.

Maybe Calumet should try having regional stallions a bit more. They can still keep shares.

Also IIRC Mr. Z has decent numbers and also the decent turf filly Eminent Victor. He could probably go anywhere.
I thought that Calumet did have regional stallions at one point (I'm positive Lentenor was one and stood in Indiana) and then they ended up selling them off eventually
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TapitsGal wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 1:09 pm
Flanders wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:23 pm
Mylute wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:48 pm

Big Blue Kitten, Hence, Mr. Z, Producer, Optimizer, Real Solution
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... ages-sale/

:roll:
Honestly they may as well sell them on since they don't support them. Either that or retire them to Old Friends. I think they've shown before they don't want pensioned stallions when they chose to sell them for under 5k. Like last year's January sale where they sold Behesht(3500) and Snapy Halo(1500). Then before that they put a large number of them in a Keeneland Digital sale, that were then withdrawn and some were sold privately and others just ended up dead. Not saying they did anything to them just that they were never seen or heard from again and then had death reports.
Who had death reports?
Risque Remarque and Musketier. I shouldn't say they were never seen or heard from again, I meant it more as in that was the last time they were mentioned by Calumet. I don't think they did anything bad to them. I think it might have been you that said Risque Remarque was sold to Florida or something but he died that year either way.
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Musketier died??
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Mylute wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:48 pm
flytpthestars wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:45 pm 6 Calumet stallions heading to January auction
Big Blue Kitten, Hence, Mr. Z, Producer, Optimizer, Real Solution
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... ages-sale/

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i wonder if they will ever close their stallion operation. it's a shame Calumet is not even a shadow of what it once was...
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brunanas wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:21 pm Musketier died??
Yeah sometime in 2021, when I was trying to find him, I found he had a death report. There was never anything said anywhere. I posted it here though when I saw it.
brunanas wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:22 pm i wonder if they will ever close their stallion operation. it's a shame Calumet is not even a shadow of what it once was...
I mean it hasn't been since Lundy took over in the early 80s and ran it into the ground. Henryk de Kwiatkowski never stood many stallions, I think 2 was the most he had while he owned Calumet. Of course he bought the farm long after his stallion Danzig had been established at Claiborne so he didn't move him.
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MGSW Diatonic(JPN), 2015H. Lord Kanaloa(JPN) x To Harmony(JPN) by Sunday Silence(USA), will stand at Yulong Stud, Australia.
He will run his swansong in the G2 Hanshin Cup at Hanshin on Dec 24th.

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Mind Control will stand at Rockridge for $8,500
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