Stallion News

[Flanders]

Mind Control listed in Florida for 2023 - https://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-reg ... nd-control

I don't think this is where he is standing. That is his racing owners. I think they just want people to know he will be standing in 2023.

[Flanders]

G1SW Keiai Nautique (Deep Impact –Keiai Gerbera, by Smarty Jones) to Karwin Farm in France. A fee will be announced later

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/g ... rwin-farm/

[Slewfan2]

Mind Control listed in Florida for 2023 - https://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-reg ... nd-control

I don't think this is where he is standing. That is his racing owners. I think they just want people to know he will be standing in 2023.

Too bad, I think he’d do much better in FL than KY

[mariasmon]

Mind Control listed in Florida for 2023 - https://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-reg ... nd-control

I don't think this is where he is standing. That is his racing owners. I think they just want people to know he will be standing in 2023.

Too bad, I think he’d do much better in FL than KY

It sounded like they were thinking NY, not KY.

[Slewfan2]

I don't think this is where he is standing. That is his racing owners. I think they just want people to know he will be standing in 2023.

Too bad, I think he’d do much better in FL than KY

It sounded like they were thinking NY, not KY.

Oh, thanks...NY is good, too. He actually deserves a shot in KY, but considering his pedigree, he wouldn’t get much of a shot. NY will be better for him.

[mariasmon]

Too bad, I think he’d do much better in FL than KY

It sounded like they were thinking NY, not KY.

Oh, thanks...NY is good, too. He actually deserves a shot in KY, but considering his pedigree, he wouldn’t get much of a shot. NY will be better for him.

They said something about his dam's 1/2 brother, King for a Day, having been popular since he went to stud in NY. He's by Uncle Mo, which probably explains a lot of it. But Mind Control's race record is far more impressive.

[SukiSatsuki]

Bwahahah what the hell
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... tid=Zxz2cZ

[Slewfan2]

It sounded like they were thinking NY, not KY.

Oh, thanks...NY is good, too. He actually deserves a shot in KY, but considering his pedigree, he wouldn’t get much of a shot. NY will be better for him.

They said something about his dam's 1/2 brother, King for a Day, having been popular since he went to stud in NY. He's by Uncle Mo, which probably explains a lot of it. But Mind Control's race record is far more impressive.

Mind Control was a really neat horse - and sound, too. There are questions about his sire line, but he’s a real racehorse...He’ll be fun to follow - I’ve been looking for one to root for, and I actually forgot about him...

[Mylute]

Oh, thanks...NY is good, too. He actually deserves a shot in KY, but considering his pedigree, he wouldn’t get much of a shot. NY will be better for him.

"We haven't received a great response about him from the farms and that's been surprising. He did win two races that are considered stallion-making races," Kumin said
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... cigar-mile

Annoying to read stuff like this. Can you really say "it's the pedigree" when you have, for example, Army Mule (Fresian Fire/Crafty Prospector) in Kentucky?

[Slewfan2]

Oh, thanks...NY is good, too. He actually deserves a shot in KY, but considering his pedigree, he wouldn’t get much of a shot. NY will be better for him.

"We haven't received a great response about him from the farms and that's been surprising. He did win two races that are considered stallion-making races," Kumin said
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... cigar-mile

Annoying to read stuff like this. Can you really say "it's the pedigree" when you have, for example, Army Mule (Fresian Fire/Crafty Prospector) in Kentucky?

That’s true, but he was extremely fast...(I had to check Equibase as I didn’t remember him at all). I think speed often trumps pedigree. MC was very good, very honest, but he wasn’t all that brilliant. Combine that with his pedigree, and I guess it’s problematic,

I think in much the same way that Honor AP is suffering a poor response (considering his talent, record and looks) due to his sire, Mind Control is suffering the taint of his sire and grand sire (Bermie is a brilliant BMS, but not at all successful as a sire of sires). I find these comments really kind of sad - MC deserves better.

**And, he just won the Cigar Mile - what a fantastic send off for him!

[Nenikikamen23]

Epicenter to Ashford - https://coolmore.com/farms/america/news ... hford-stud

[Nenikikamen23]

Fees for incoming 2023 US stallions (either confirmed or heard to be going to stud) - Kentucky;

(KY) $200,000 - 4xG1W Flightline (Tapit - Feathered, by Indian Charlie)
(KY) $100,000 - 4xG1W Life is Good (Into Mischief - Beach Walk, by Distorted Humor)
(KY) $ 50,000 - 5xG1W Jackie's Warrior (Maclean's Music - Unicorn Girl, by A P Five Hundred)
(KY) $ 45,000 - 3xG1W Jack Christopher (Munnings - Rushin No Blushin, by Half Ours)
(KY) $ 45,000 - G1W Epicenter (Not This Time - Silent Candy, by Candy Ride [ARG])
(KY) $ 35,000 - G1W Olympiad (Speightstown - Tokyo Time, by Medaglia d'Oro)
(KY) $ 30,000 - 2xG1W Corniche (Quality Road - Wasted Tears, by Najran)
(KY) $ 30,000 - 2xG1W Cyberknife (Gun Runner - Awesome Flower, by Flower Alley)
(KY) $ 30,000 - G1W Golden Pal (Uncle Mo - Lady Shipman, by Midshipman)
(KY) $ 25,000 - 2xG1W Mandaloun (Into Mischief - Brooch, by Empire Maker)
(KY) $ 25,000 - G1W Early Voting (Gun Runner - Amour d'Ete, by Tiznow)
(KY) $ 20,000 - G1W Mo Donegal (Uncle Mo - Callingmissbrown, by Pulpit)
(KY) $ 20,000 - G1W Speaker's Corner (Street Sense - Tuburn Book, by Bernardini)
(KY) $ 15,000 - G1W Mystic Guide (Ghostzapper - Music Note, by A.P. Indy)
(KY) $ 15,000 - LSW Nashville (Speightstown - Veronique, by Mizzen Mast)
(KY) $ 12,500 - G1W Happy Saver (Super Saver - Happy Week, by Distorted Humor)
(KY) $ 10,000 - G1W Aloha West (Hard Spun - Island Bound, by Speightstown)
(KY) $ 10,000 - G1W Drain the Clock (Maclean's Music - Manki, by Arch)
(KY) $ 10,000 - G1W Idol (Curlin - Marion Ravenwood, by A.P. Indy)
(KY) $ 7,500 - G1W Pinehurst (Twirling Candy - Giant Win, by Giant's Causeway)
(KY) $ 7,500 - G1W Sir Winston (Awesome Again - La Gran Bailadora, by Afleet Alex)
(KY) $ 7,500 - G2W Greatest Honour (Tapit - Tiffany's Honour, by Street Cry [IRE])
(KY) $ 7,500 - G2W Mutasaabeq (Into Mischief - Downside Scenario, by Scat Daddy)
(KY) $ 7,500 - G3W Highly Motivated (Into Mischief - Strong Incentive, by Warrior's Reward)
(KY) $ 5,000 - G1W Channel Cat (English Channel - Carnival Kitten, by Kitten's Joy)
(KY) $ 5,000 - 3xG3W Plainsman (Flatter - S S Pinafore, by Street Sense)
(KY) $ 5,000 - 2xG2P Moretti (Medaglia d'Oro - Rigoletta, by Concerto)
(KY) $ Private - G3W Tale of Silence (Tale of the Cat - Silence Beauty [JPN], by Sunday Silence)

(5) Ashford Stud
(4) Spendthrift Farm
(2) Airdrie Stud, Darby Dan Farm, Jonabell Farm, Gainesway Farm, WinStar Farm
(1) Buck Pond Farm, Calumet Farm, Chesapeake Farm, Crestwood Farm, Juddmonte Farms, Lane's End Farm, Mill Ridge Farm, Taylor Made Stallions, Walmac Farm

[Flanders]

Epicenter to Ashford - https://coolmore.com/farms/america/news ... hford-stud

They are really packing in the new sires for 2023. I guess they have to make up for not having any this year.

[Izvestia]

I like how Candy Ride is now only special because he’s the sire of Gun Runner… “Epicenter is the best son of Giant’s Causeway’s best sire son Not This Time and us out of a stakes winner by the sire of Gun Runner”.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... hford-stud

I mean, Gun Runner has been outstanding at stud - but Candy Ride is far more than the sire of him. Gun Runner wasn’t even his best son on the track.

Happy that Epicenter is doing well.

[Northport]

I like how Candy Ride is now only special because he’s the sire of Gun Runner… “Epicenter is the best son of Giant’s Causeway’s best sire son Not This Time and us out of a stakes winner by the sire of Gun Runner”.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... hford-stud

I mean, Gun Runner has been outstanding at stud - but Candy Ride is far more than the sire of him. Gun Runner wasn’t even his best son on the track.

Happy that Epicenter is doing well.

I also take issue with that quote for a different reason, calling Not This Time the best sire son of Giant’s Causeway. C’mon now. Definitely best US based, but considering how small Shamardal’s books had to be towards the end, he was an exceptional stallion by any measure.

[Izvestia]

I like how Candy Ride is now only special because he’s the sire of Gun Runner… “Epicenter is the best son of Giant’s Causeway’s best sire son Not This Time and us out of a stakes winner by the sire of Gun Runner”.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... hford-stud

I mean, Gun Runner has been outstanding at stud - but Candy Ride is far more than the sire of him. Gun Runner wasn’t even his best son on the track.

Happy that Epicenter is doing well.

I also take issue with that quote for a different reason, calling Not This Time the best sire son of Giant’s Causeway. C’mon now. Definitely best US based, but considering how small Shamardal’s books had to be towards the end, he was an exceptional stallion by any measure.

Agree with that.

[bare it all]

Bwahahah what the hell
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... tid=Zxz2cZ

What a weird way to spends $2500. THE FUTURE IS NOW.

[CoronadosQuest]

Bwahahah what the hell
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... tid=Zxz2cZ

What a weird way to spends $2500. THE FUTURE IS NOW.

What a terrible name.

[BaroqueAgain1]

Ignoring the ignominious name, he's not a bad-looking horse, and his pedigree may make him a useful regional stallion.
If you were a small breeder, gambling on that bloodline wouldn't be the worst thing you could do.

[Retrospectiv]

Ignoring the ignominious name, he's not a bad-looking horse, and his pedigree may make him a useful regional stallion.
If you were a small breeder, gambling on that bloodline wouldn't be the worst thing you could do.

Kind of have to agree here
Uncle Mo has some up and coming sons at stud, and this guy's dam is a full to Curlin to Mischief (also unraced..) who is the leading 4th crop sire in California right now, even though he was pensioned early due to fertility issues.
Though also unraced and terribly named, this guy represents a nice replacement for CTM for California