Black Thoroughbreds

[Falinadin]

This colt in the June OBS sale is registered black... maybe he's just really sun bleached? His name is Bubby Papermaker (Redesdale X Circus Life X More Than Ready)

[BaroqueAgain1]

Do TB breeders ever do DNA testing on a foal's hair to find out what their color really is?

[Mylute]

I would assume most breeders would view it as an unnecessary expense and move on.

Just register "dkb" or maybe "blk/br" and move on seems to be the M.O. I've seen examples of foals who were very obviously black from birth get registered as just "bay" sometimes.

Now Bubby here seems to be very obviously dkb, at least IMO.

[ThreeMustangs]

Blk/br is not recognized by the Jockey Club:

https://www.registry.jockeyclub.com/reg ... oroughbred

[Flanders]

Do TB breeders ever do DNA testing on a foal's hair to find out what their color really is?

Color breeders. No one else really cares.

[Gemini]

Genuine question, which countries use the 'blk/brn' descriptor in their registers? I've never seen a 'blk/brn' in the US, at least not in the past 50 years, typically they are black or dkb/b (dark bay/brown). To me the above horse would be dkb/b if it were in the US.

I don't have an answer to which ones, but the combined terms are as foolish as them using grey/roan as a registration option.
A horse can't be both black and 'brown', and technically there is no brown, they are dark bay. If course, most registries are not particularly accruate at registering colours...

I'm under the impression that most of these colors exist simply to provide a physical description, not the exact alleles of each horse.

But yeah, I wish they'd get rid of "roan" and just say "grey".

[Falinadin]

But yeah, I wish they'd get rid of "roan" and just say "grey".

I agree. I think it's a holdover from the past, before the difference between roan and grey was as recognized as it is now. Back in the 50s and earlier there were horses just registered as "roan". I think as science progressed and people realized that grey and roan are not the same, it got changed to grey/roan. I think we should just make the jump to grey now

[Mylute]

Cougar (Deep Impact x Promise to be True) broke his maiden recently in his fifth start. He is one of two things:

1. Black with a bit of sun bleaching
2. As close to black as you can be while not really being black

https://twitter.com/EmmaOBrien2204/stat ... 66/photo/3

I notice on Racing Post his color is listed as "bb" instead of just "b."

[Mylute]

Exaggerator's half brother Wolfe County looks black on screen.

[Mylute]

W Elzamee (Deep Impact × Amanee, by Pivotal) was recently gelded and exported to Hong Kong. He is registered brown.

[Mylute]

Likely true black gelding Pet's Night (by Petionville) up for adoption at New Vocations.
http://web.archive.org/web/202211161618 ... detail/855

[HB1994]

Likely true black gelding Pet's Night (by Petionville) up for adoption at New Vocations.
http://web.archive.org/web/202211161618 ... detail/855

He is a handsome boy.

[Gemini]

Likely true black gelding Pet's Night (by Petionville) up for adoption at New Vocations.
http://web.archive.org/web/202211161618 ... detail/855

He is a handsome boy.

Wow. Be still, my heart. He's as black as they come.

[CoronadosQuest]

He has a reverse dappling effect going on too. He is gorgeous!

[HB1994]

They were drooling over him in the Equestrian subreddit, so I think he’ll find a home quickly (if he hasn’t already).

[tachyon]

Vela Azul(JPN) : 2017 blk H. Eishin Flash(JPN) x Vela Blanca(JPN) by Kurofune(USA)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001233443/


winner of the 2022 Japan Cup

[BaroqueAgain1]

That is a gorgeous horse. <3
I've often thought that Japanese breeders must love black horses. Sunday Silence, Roses In May, War Emblem, Shanghai Bobby and other black/nearly black imports have given Japanese fields more black runners than I see anywhere else. Love it.

[Delamont]

That is a gorgeous horse. <3
I've often thought that Japanese breeders must love black horses. Sunday Silence, Roses In May, War Emblem, Shanghai Bobby and other black/nearly black imports have given Japanese fields more black runners than I see anywhere else. Love it.

Atashi mo!

[tachyon]

That is a gorgeous horse. <3
I've often thought that Japanese breeders must love black horses. Sunday Silence, Roses In May, War Emblem, Shanghai Bobby and other black/nearly black imports have given Japanese fields more black runners than I see anywhere else. Love it.

Atashi mo!

Boku mo!

[Mylute]

2022 Mexican Triple Crown winner INIESTA (Zeewat × Wendy, by Alegrando De) is registered black. He recently won the Clasico del Caribe (G1) in Venezuela.

https://www.horseracingnation.com/news/ ... Caribe_123
https://www.pedigreequery.com/iniesta9
https://hipicaglobal.com/noticias/el-ca ... el-caribe/