Stallion News

[SukiSatsuki]

Did anyone else notice the Calumet stallion ads in the Friday Breeders Cup program(they are also in Saturday's program)? The one is just a text ad and only mentions the same 4 stallions that are in the photo ad a few pages later. The photo ad says "Calumet Farm 2023 Stallion Roster" and only has 4 stallions. Isn't that weird? Like they have 15 stallions but only Keen Ice, Oxbow, Ransom The Moon and Hightail are mentioned in their 2023 stallion roster ad. No wonder their stallions don't get mares.

I have a feeling that the Calumet stallion/nominations office has a Dunder Mifflin bit of a feel to it. Like Brad Kelley is obviously not an idiot and didn't become a billionaire by making bad decisions, but in terms of Thoroughbred management it's kind of chaos. They buy, breed, and sell with so little rhyme or reason and I feel like the underlings must go crazy following orders that make no sense. Stallions are acquired, priced with fees that make no sense, cover random/borderline garbage mares that are almost all owned by Calumet, then the progeny are sold at the sales for four figures and usually at a huge loss. They do so in such large quantities that obviously they do get G1 horses and a fkn Derby winner, but it's just really baffling.

Does a disservice to the name and legacy of Calumet, really.

Is that the farm that killed alydar?

[brunanas]

I have a feeling that the Calumet stallion/nominations office has a Dunder Mifflin bit of a feel to it. Like Brad Kelley is obviously not an idiot and didn't become a billionaire by making bad decisions, but in terms of Thoroughbred management it's kind of chaos. They buy, breed, and sell with so little rhyme or reason and I feel like the underlings must go crazy following orders that make no sense. Stallions are acquired, priced with fees that make no sense, cover random/borderline garbage mares that are almost all owned by Calumet, then the progeny are sold at the sales for four figures and usually at a huge loss. They do so in such large quantities that obviously they do get G1 horses and a fkn Derby winner, but it's just really baffling.

Does a disservice to the name and legacy of Calumet, really.

Is that the farm that killed alydar?

yes

[Northport]

Well, in name. Completely different management teams between the golden era, the Alydar era, and the current operation.

[SukiSatsuki]

Well, in name. Completely different management teams between the golden era, the Alydar era, and the current operation.

Yea maybe thats why they dont open to the public

[Flanders]

Well, in name. Completely different management teams between the golden era, the Alydar era, and the current operation.

Don't forget Henryk de Kwiatkowski in there as well.

[brunanas]

Well, in name. Completely different management teams between the golden era, the Alydar era, and the current operation.

Yea maybe thats why they dont open to the public

i believe they do open to the public. just have been closed for a while, but Calumet tours are a thing if i remember correctly

[TapitsGal]

Well, in name. Completely different management teams between the golden era, the Alydar era, and the current operation.

Yea maybe thats why they dont open to the public

I've been to Calumet. Toured the farm in 2014 in a tour organized through the Kentucky horse park. I kinda got the impression that was an exclusive to the Kentucky horse park farm tours kinda thing. it was a complete surprise. I knew ahead of time I'd be visiting three farms but wasn't told which three

[Northport]

Well, in name. Completely different management teams between the golden era, the Alydar era, and the current operation.

Don't forget Henryk de Kwiatkowski in there as well.

Definitely didnt forget him, but was too lazy to google how to spell his name, haha. He also didnt run quite as notable an operation when he had Calumet banner, so it is hard to include him in the comparison. Most of his best horses were before he bought Calumet. He was integral tho in restoring and renovating the infratstucture of the farm itself.

[Northport]

QEII winner Bayside Boy (New Bay) has been retired to Ballylinch Stud

https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/h ... 586761/amp

[Miss Woodford]

I just love the expression on Stradivarius' face in this photo https://twitter.com/LizzyNielsen2/statu ... 9058114563

[Flanders]

9yo Spw Malibu Max (Malibu Moon - Mindy Sue, by Pleasantly Perfect) to Workwize Stables in Alberta
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... n-alberta/

[TapitsGal]

Life is good arrive at WinStar today. Bloodhorse has pics of him there with pletcher.100k fee

[SukiSatsuki]

Life is good arrive at WinStar today. Bloodhorse has pics of him there with pletcher.100k fee

Is that the highest starting fee for a stud?

[brunanas]

Life is good arrive at WinStar today. Bloodhorse has pics of him there with pletcher.100k fee

Is that the highest starting fee for a stud?

this year or ever?

[SukiSatsuki]

Life is good arrive at WinStar today. Bloodhorse has pics of him there with pletcher.100k fee

Is that the highest starting fee for a stud?

this year or ever?

Ever and I mean just starting out

[brunanas]

Is that the highest starting fee for a stud?

this year or ever?

Ever and I mean just starting out

then no. American Pharoah for example started at $200k.

[SukiSatsuki]

this year or ever?

Ever and I mean just starting out

then no. American Pharoah for example started at $200k.

I forgot about his starting fee. Thank you

[RachelAlexandra24]

Is that the highest starting fee for a stud?

this year or ever?

Ever and I mean just starting out

Plus Justify started at $150k

[Northport]

Ghostzapper also started at $200,000.

[KatieK101]

I'm very interested to see what sort of first book Flightline gets; I remember when American Pharoah retired to stud, many claimed that his first book was the best first book they had ever seen. Justify and Arrogate had similar quality in their first years.

But considering his longevity and the fact that Into Mischief and Gun Runner and Quality Road, etc, are still alive and proven, will he get the very best mares out of the gate? Or will his first book be more comparable to say, Gun Runner or Charleton? I do expect it to be the former, breeders do love their brilliance.