Breeders’ Cup 2022

BaroqueAgain1 · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:01 pm

Is this the first time the F&M Turf has been run at Keeneland at this distance? Easy to set a record when it's the first time.

Tessablue · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:07 pm

Why are we comparing Flightline to Secretariat when it's 24 MTP for the Sprint.

Mylute · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:08 pm

Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:07 pm Why are we comparing Flightline to Secretariat when it's 24 MTP for the Sprint.

It's been all across Instagram for like two days.

Tessablue · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:10 pm

Buy why...

I know it's to drum up headlines and stuff, but surely these pundits remember Arrogate and Ghostzapper? Why do we have to go all the way back to Secretariat?

Miss Woodford · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:13 pm

Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:10 pm Buy why...

I know it's to drum up headlines and stuff, but surely these pundits remember Arrogate and Ghostzapper? Why do we have to go all the way back to Secretariat?

No, nobody who isn't already a horse racing fan remembers Arrogate and Ghostzapper. The last time horse racing was mainstream popular was the 1970s so the last great horse of reference is Secretariat.

Tessablue · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:14 pm

Miss Woodford wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:13 pm
No, nobody who isn't already a horse racing fan remembers Arrogate and Ghostzapper. The last time horse racing was mainstream popular was the 1970s so the last great horse of reference is Secretariat.

I mean more the announcers etc., and the people in the know who aren't paid to say it, but surely American Pharoah is the most recent popular touchstone?

Palace Malice · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:14 pm

Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:10 pm Buy why...

I know it's to drum up headlines and stuff, but surely these pundits remember Arrogate and Ghostzapper? Why do we have to go all the way back to Secretariat?

Secreteriat won the triple crown and Flightline never ran in a triple crown race. Secretariat was also good on turf and Flighline will never run on turf. There are better comparisons to be made.

Tessablue · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:17 pm

So many likeable horses in this race. A win by Jackie would be awesome, but Kimari is so cool, Elite Power is super super promising, and O Besos is a personal fave...

CoronadosQuest · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:18 pm

Palace Malice wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:14 pm
Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:10 pm Buy why...

I know it's to drum up headlines and stuff, but surely these pundits remember Arrogate and Ghostzapper? Why do we have to go all the way back to Secretariat?
Secreteriat won the triple crown and Flightline never ran in a triple crown race. Secretariat was also good on turf and Flighline will never run on turf. There are better comparisons to be made.

I think they mean by dominating a race. Trying to get non horse racing fans, who KNOW Secretariat, excited about his huge Pacific Classic romp and hype for the Classic. And lets be real, Secretariat is by far the most popular racehorse that every household knows. Id be shocked if non horse racing people even know American Pharoah or Justify.

Miss Woodford · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:22 pm

Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:14 pm
Miss Woodford wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:13 pm
No, nobody who isn't already a horse racing fan remembers Arrogate and Ghostzapper. The last time horse racing was mainstream popular was the 1970s so the last great horse of reference is Secretariat.
I mean more the announcers etc., and the people in the know who aren't paid to say it, but surely American Pharoah is the most recent popular touchstone?

Not even close to Secretariat. For the general public it's Secretariat, Seabiscuit, maaaaybe Man O'War, a huge step down, then AP/Zenyatta/Rachel/Barbaro/et al.

BaroqueAgain1 · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:25 pm

The Triple Crown is known by regular citizens, I suspect that at least they are aware of American Pharoah, as the first TC winner in nearly 4 decades.

Tessablue · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:28 pm

Donna on Whitmore!!!

BaroqueAgain1 · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:28 pm

It's so windy there that even Harley is acting a little excited.

Palace Malice · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:28 pm

Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:28 pm Donna on Whitmore!!!

Good boy

Miss Woodford · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:30 pm

Correction: Donna should keep Whitmore around for the postrace! He looks like a natural out there.

CoronadosQuest · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:30 pm

Its SO windy there. I thought Donna was going to blow right out of Whitmore's saddle

Mylute · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:34 pm

Damn my pick O Besos was flying at the end

I suck today

Tessablue · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:35 pm

Another win for closing weekend at Saratoga! Elite Power is VERY good and I suspect will stretch out quite nicely, should they choose to try it.

Jackie ran hard but I think it's time for retirement. Always a pleasure to watch him.

Northport · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:36 pm

So we finally can all admit that Jackie’s Warrior is a bit of a fraud yeah? If he isn’t alone by himself he just cant do it.

CoronadosQuest · Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:36 pm

Bummed about Jackie. Congrats to Elite Power. 2 BC winners for Curlin today! Steve is so upset

He sounds like he was about to cry