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Caravaggio to Shizunai in Japan
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... HQLTOguS4Q
A bit surprised, as he has a good flagbearer this hear in Tenebrism. Guess it wasn’t enough. Cue him having 3+ Group/Grade 1 winners next year.
He stood for $35,000 this year, up from $25,000 in 2021, when he covered 178 mares (which resulted in 105 live foals - 59%. Not great for a sire of his age but still a big crop either way). I wonder if his book dropped off in size this year.
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... HQLTOguS4Q
A bit surprised, as he has a good flagbearer this hear in Tenebrism. Guess it wasn’t enough. Cue him having 3+ Group/Grade 1 winners next year.
He stood for $35,000 this year, up from $25,000 in 2021, when he covered 178 mares (which resulted in 105 live foals - 59%. Not great for a sire of his age but still a big crop either way). I wonder if his book dropped off in size this year.
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I read somewhere that Caravaggio has fertility issuesNorthport wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:54 am Caravaggio to Shizunai in Japan
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... HQLTOguS4Q
A bit surprised, as he has a good flagbearer this hear in Tenebrism. Guess it wasn’t enough. Cue him having 3+ Group/Grade 1 winners next year.
He stood for $35,000 this year, up from $25,000 in 2021, when he covered 178 mares (which resulted in 105 live foals - 59%. Not great for a sire of his age but still a big crop either way). I wonder if his book dropped off in size this year.
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I’m hoping Claiborne stands another son of War Front (in addition to war of will) for his successor. Fingers crossed for Annapolis!starrydreamer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:52 amI had that one already.Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:40 pmI just posted one that wasn't listed yet in Foaling Season 2022.starrydreamer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:19 pm I found 56 of the 75 mares bred to him, but only 26 of the 40 live foals.
But yeah, I forgot that Coolmore doesn't send its mares to War Front anymore. Makes it way harder to find mares bred to him.
I'm glad War of Will's fertility is good, though. Eagerly waiting for his foals to hit the track.
What’s everyone’s thoughts on where Annapolis will land?
- Flanders
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Claiborne definitely has connections with Ramona Bass, so maybe. There are no past colts to look at. Bass' successes as an owner have been mostly with fillies/mares and a few geldings.PersonalE wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:57 pmI’m hoping Claiborne stands another son of War Front (in addition to war of will) for his successor. Fingers crossed for Annapolis!starrydreamer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:52 amI had that one already.
But yeah, I forgot that Coolmore doesn't send its mares to War Front anymore. Makes it way harder to find mares bred to him.
I'm glad War of Will's fertility is good, though. Eagerly waiting for his foals to hit the track.
What’s everyone’s thoughts on where Annapolis will land?
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Idol to take up stud duty at Taylor Made Farm. Stud fee has been set at $10,000 S&N.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ium=social
Imo, $10k isn’t bad considering he’s a G1W and his full sister is a top contender for year end honors, not to mention his half-brother Lost Ark is a recent SW as well. The fact that he’s by Curlin out of a stakes—winning AP Indy mare is just icing on the cake.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ium=social
Imo, $10k isn’t bad considering he’s a G1W and his full sister is a top contender for year end honors, not to mention his half-brother Lost Ark is a recent SW as well. The fact that he’s by Curlin out of a stakes—winning AP Indy mare is just icing on the cake.
- Flanders
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Idol retiring there has nothing to do with the syndicate selling Midnight Storm. He just wasn't doing well enough at stud to be a commercial stallion. Hopefully he will do better in a regional market. He has 2 SWs, has never had a stakes winner in the US, one was in Puerto Rico and the other in Canada. Then his yearlings were averaging 8.6k on a 10k stud fee.
- Flanders
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Avie's Flatter to Colebrook Farms in Ontario, Canada.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... rook-farms
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- Flanders
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- starrydreamer
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Yeah, Annapolis is possible and the likeliest candidate so far, if they decide they want another War Front son.Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:14 pmClaiborne definitely has connections with Ramona Bass, so maybe. There are no past colts to look at. Bass' successes as an owner have been mostly with fillies/mares and a few geldings.PersonalE wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:57 pmI’m hoping Claiborne stands another son of War Front (in addition to war of will) for his successor. Fingers crossed for Annapolis!starrydreamer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:52 am
I had that one already.
But yeah, I forgot that Coolmore doesn't send its mares to War Front anymore. Makes it way harder to find mares bred to him.
I'm glad War of Will's fertility is good, though. Eagerly waiting for his foals to hit the track.
What’s everyone’s thoughts on where Annapolis will land?
- Nenikikamen23
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Fees for incoming 2023 US stallions (either confirmed or heard to be going to stud);
(KY) $ 50,000 - 5xG1W Jackie's Warrior (Maclean's Music - Unicorn Girl, by A P Five Hundred)
(KY) $ 25,000 - 2xG1W Mandaloun (Into Mischief - Brooch, by Empire Maker)
(KY) $ 20,000 - G1W Mo Donegal (Uncle Mo - Callingmissbrown, by Pulpit)
(KY) $ 20,000 - G1W Speaker's Corner (Street Sense - Tuburn Book, by Bernardini)
(KY) $ 15,000 - G1W Mystic Guide (Ghostzapper - Music Note, by A.P. Indy)
(KY) $ 10,000 - G1W Idol (Curlin - Marion Ravenwood, by A.P. Indy)
(KY) $ 7,500 - G2W Greatest Honour (Tapit - Tiffany's Honour, by Street Cry [IRE])
(KY) $ 7,500 - G2W Mutasaabeq (Into Mischief - Downside Scenario, by Scat Daddy)
(FL) $ 5,000 - G2W Magic On Tap (Tapit - Aubby K, by Street Sense)
(MD) $ 5,000 - G2W True Valour [IRE] (Kodiac [GB] - Sutton Veny [IRE], by Acclamation [GB]
(OH) $ 2,000 - 2xG2W Mr. Freeze (To Honor and Serve - Heavenly Cat, by Tabasco Cat)
(KY) $ TBA - 4xG1W Life is Good (Into Mischief - Beach Walk, by Distorted Humor)
(KY) $ TBA - 2xG1W Corniche (Quality Road - Wasted Tears, by Najran)
(KY) $ TBA - 2xG1W Cyberknife (Gun Runner - Awesome Flower, by Flower Alley)
(CA) $ TBA - G1W Eight Rings (Empire Maker - Purely Hot, by Pure Prize)
(KY) $ TBA - G1W Early Voting (Gun Runner - Amour d'Ete, by Tiznow)
(FL) $ TBA - G1W Gretzky the Great (Nyquist - Pearl Turn, by Bernardini)
(FL) $ TBA - G1W Roadster (Quality Road - Ghost Dancing, by Silver Ghost)
(KY) $ TBA - LSW Nashville (Speightstown - Veronique, by Mizzen Mast)
Fees for incoming Canadian stallions (either confirmed or heard to be going to stud);
(ON) $ 6,000Can - G1W Colllusion Illusion (Twirling Candy - Natalie Grace, by First Dude)
(ON) $ TBACan - 2xG2W - Avie's Flatter (Flatter - Avie's Empire, by Empire Maker)
(KY) $ 50,000 - 5xG1W Jackie's Warrior (Maclean's Music - Unicorn Girl, by A P Five Hundred)
(KY) $ 25,000 - 2xG1W Mandaloun (Into Mischief - Brooch, by Empire Maker)
(KY) $ 20,000 - G1W Mo Donegal (Uncle Mo - Callingmissbrown, by Pulpit)
(KY) $ 20,000 - G1W Speaker's Corner (Street Sense - Tuburn Book, by Bernardini)
(KY) $ 15,000 - G1W Mystic Guide (Ghostzapper - Music Note, by A.P. Indy)
(KY) $ 10,000 - G1W Idol (Curlin - Marion Ravenwood, by A.P. Indy)
(KY) $ 7,500 - G2W Greatest Honour (Tapit - Tiffany's Honour, by Street Cry [IRE])
(KY) $ 7,500 - G2W Mutasaabeq (Into Mischief - Downside Scenario, by Scat Daddy)
(FL) $ 5,000 - G2W Magic On Tap (Tapit - Aubby K, by Street Sense)
(MD) $ 5,000 - G2W True Valour [IRE] (Kodiac [GB] - Sutton Veny [IRE], by Acclamation [GB]
(OH) $ 2,000 - 2xG2W Mr. Freeze (To Honor and Serve - Heavenly Cat, by Tabasco Cat)
(KY) $ TBA - 4xG1W Life is Good (Into Mischief - Beach Walk, by Distorted Humor)
(KY) $ TBA - 2xG1W Corniche (Quality Road - Wasted Tears, by Najran)
(KY) $ TBA - 2xG1W Cyberknife (Gun Runner - Awesome Flower, by Flower Alley)
(CA) $ TBA - G1W Eight Rings (Empire Maker - Purely Hot, by Pure Prize)
(KY) $ TBA - G1W Early Voting (Gun Runner - Amour d'Ete, by Tiznow)
(FL) $ TBA - G1W Gretzky the Great (Nyquist - Pearl Turn, by Bernardini)
(FL) $ TBA - G1W Roadster (Quality Road - Ghost Dancing, by Silver Ghost)
(KY) $ TBA - LSW Nashville (Speightstown - Veronique, by Mizzen Mast)
Fees for incoming Canadian stallions (either confirmed or heard to be going to stud);
(ON) $ 6,000Can - G1W Colllusion Illusion (Twirling Candy - Natalie Grace, by First Dude)
(ON) $ TBACan - 2xG2W - Avie's Flatter (Flatter - Avie's Empire, by Empire Maker)
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- Psychotic Parakeet
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Any speculation as to what Gun Runner's fee will be?
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- Flanders
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I think they can reach for Into Mischief level if they want. I don't know if they will go that high but I wouldn't be shocked if he was 200k. I just say this cause when Uncle Mo had his spectacular year with his first crop 3yos, he jumped up to 150k. He did have more SWs than Gun Runner has. But Gun Runner has 6 G1SWs from his first crop, that is a completely insane number. And he gets the Classic distance runners that buyers want, so breeders are going to want to breed to him.Psychotic Parakeet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:04 am Any speculation as to what Gun Runner's fee will be?
- HB1994
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Gun Runner has only six winners and zero SWs from his second crop so far. Do you think that will hurt him any?Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:17 amI think they can reach for Into Mischief level if they want. I don't know if they will go that high but I wouldn't be shocked if he was 200k. I just say this cause when Uncle Mo had his spectacular year with his first crop 3yos, he jumped up to 150k. He did have more SWs than Gun Runner has. But Gun Runner has 6 G1SWs from his first crop, that is a completely insane number. And he gets the Classic distance runners that buyers want, so breeders are going to want to breed to him.Psychotic Parakeet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:04 am Any speculation as to what Gun Runner's fee will be?
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- Flanders
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Not at all. Of his 4 G1SWs this year, only 1 had even raced at this point last year. Cyberknife debuted on September 25th but didn't break his maiden til his 3rd start on December 26th. Society debuted on October 21st and won. Early Voting debuted on December 18th and won. Taiba debuted on March 5th. Even though he had immense success as a freshman stallion, in the long run his forte may not be 2yos. He just showed he is capable of getting precocious runners with the right mares.HB1994 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:42 amGun Runner has only six winners and zero SWs from his second crop so far. Do you think that will hurt him any?Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:17 amI think they can reach for Into Mischief level if they want. I don't know if they will go that high but I wouldn't be shocked if he was 200k. I just say this cause when Uncle Mo had his spectacular year with his first crop 3yos, he jumped up to 150k. He did have more SWs than Gun Runner has. But Gun Runner has 6 G1SWs from his first crop, that is a completely insane number. And he gets the Classic distance runners that buyers want, so breeders are going to want to breed to him.Psychotic Parakeet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:04 am Any speculation as to what Gun Runner's fee will be?
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I was very surprised!Northport wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:54 am Caravaggio to Shizunai in Japan
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... HQLTOguS4Q
A bit surprised, as he has a good flagbearer this hear in Tenebrism. Guess it wasn’t enough. Cue him having 3+ Group/Grade 1 winners next year.
He stood for $35,000 this year, up from $25,000 in 2021, when he covered 178 mares (which resulted in 105 live foals - 59%. Not great for a sire of his age but still a big crop either way). I wonder if his book dropped off in size this year.
But that's excellent news for JBBA.
Best of luck to Caravaggio!!
-- report (with photos and race videos) from uma-ichi.com (Japanese)
https://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/1 ... 835d245240
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Nenikikamen23 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:49 pm Fees for incoming 2023 US stallions (either confirmed or heard to be going to stud);
(KY) $100,000 - 4xG1W Life is Good (Into Mischief - Beach Walk, by Distorted Humor)
(KY) $ 50,000 - 5xG1W Jackie's Warrior (Maclean's Music - Unicorn Girl, by A P Five Hundred)
(KY) $ 25,000 - 2xG1W Mandaloun (Into Mischief - Brooch, by Empire Maker)
(KY) $ 20,000 - G1W Mo Donegal (Uncle Mo - Callingmissbrown, by Pulpit)
(KY) $ 20,000 - G1W Speaker's Corner (Street Sense - Tuburn Book, by Bernardini)
(KY) $ 15,000 - G1W Mystic Guide (Ghostzapper - Music Note, by A.P. Indy)
(KY) $ 15,000 - LSW Nashville (Speightstown - Veronique, by Mizzen Mast)
(KY) $ 10,000 - G1W Idol (Curlin - Marion Ravenwood, by A.P. Indy)
(KY) $ 7,500 - G2W Greatest Honour (Tapit - Tiffany's Honour, by Street Cry [IRE])
(KY) $ 7,500 - G2W Mutasaabeq (Into Mischief - Downside Scenario, by Scat Daddy)
(FL) $ 5,000 - G2W Magic On Tap (Tapit - Aubby K, by Street Sense)
(MD) $ 5,000 - G2W True Valour [IRE] (Kodiac [GB] - Sutton Veny [IRE], by Acclamation [GB]
(OH) $ 2,000 - 2xG2W Mr. Freeze (To Honor and Serve - Heavenly Cat, by Tabasco Cat)
(KY) $ TBA - 2xG1W Corniche (Quality Road - Wasted Tears, by Najran)
(KY) $ TBA - 2xG1W Cyberknife (Gun Runner - Awesome Flower, by Flower Alley)
(CA) $ TBA - G1W Eight Rings (Empire Maker - Purely Hot, by Pure Prize)
(KY) $ TBA - G1W Early Voting (Gun Runner - Amour d'Ete, by Tiznow)
(FL) $ TBA - G1W Gretzky the Great (Nyquist - Pearl Turn, by Bernardini)
(FL) $ TBA - G1W Roadster (Quality Road - Ghost Dancing, by Silver Ghost)
A is for Arrogate, A is for absolute superstar, A is for anointing