The rise of Sunday Silence

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tachyon
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Starine wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:44 pm Damn. He and Symboli Kris S were two of my favorites when I first started to follow Japanese racing.
:D 8-)

Both Zenno Rob Roy(JPN) and Symboli Kris S(USA) were JRA’s Horse of the Year, trained by Kazuo Fujisawa.
Symboli Kris S, massive Kris S colt, became an excellent sire and probably an influential sire of sires, too, represented by Epiphaneia(JPN) and Le Vent Se Leve(JPN).
On the other hand, Zenno Rob Roy’s success at stud was relatively modest, considering his brilliant race record and pedigree.
I still wonder if he could have more success if he stood in the states. ;)
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ForTheThrill wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:35 pm The chestnut in the Tenno Sho was Lohengrin, right? I ADORED Singspiel, so I tracked down as many of his foals as I could, and Lohengrin was one of them.
Yes!!! :D

That was Lohengrin(JPN) who set the pace in the 2004 Tenno Sho Autumn under Shadai silk.
The 4-time G2 winner and the runner-up in the G1 (Prix du Moulin de Longchamp) was Teruya Yoshida’s favorite horse.
It was in 1995 when Teruya purchased French filly Carling(FR).
Teruya raced her in France and brought to Japan when she was in foal to Singspiel(IRE), the champion & MG1winner on either surface including the 1996 Japan Cup, in 1998.
At stud in Japan, Lohengrin was a successful sire, represented by the 3-time G1winner Logotype(JPN) who is now standing at Shadai Stallion Station.
Lohengrin is not officially retired from stud duty yet, but he is believed to have already been pensioned at Shadai Bluegrass Farm now.

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Lohengrin as he won the G2 Milers Cup at Hanshin Racecourse in 2003, with his owner Teruya Yoshida (on the left -- man, he was still young, haha!) and Chizu Yoshida (second from the right -- Teruya's spouse)

Logotype(JPN): 2010H. Logengrin(JPN) x Stereotype(JPN) by Sunday Silence(USA)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001124405/
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Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:58 pm

Ladario(BRZ), 2019C. Hat Trick(JPN) x Notting Tomorrow(USA) by Aragorn(IRE), captured his second G1 victory in the Grande Premio Ipiranga 1600m turf at Cidade Jardim on Sep 3rd 2022.
https://www.pedigreequery.com/ladario2
https://www.turfdiario.com/empoderada-y ... -triunfos/

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-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ry9MuA9_68
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:11 am

tachyon wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:50 am Nikiya(USA)[1993M. Nureyev(USA) x Reluctant Guest(USA)], the dam of the great Gold Allure(JPN)(Sunday Silence), died of old age at Haruya Yoshida's Oiwake Farm today. :(
She was the granddam of G1 winner Persian Knight(JPN), too.
May she rest in peace.
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Nikiya, four days ago
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000384028/
Oiwake Farn has posted this photo today:

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Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:26 am

tachyon wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:30 pm
I believe that Heart's Cry is underrated like almost all of the Sunday Silence sons are.
Continuous(JPN) won the G3 Prix Thomas Byron under Ryan Moore to stay unbeaten at Saint-Cloud on Oct 1st 2022. :D

It was a shame that Continuous' victory was overshadowed by the disgraceful incident (Soumillon's elbows). :shock:
He is a very rare Heart's Cry offspring that is trained in Europe.

-- from TDN
''Pattern Race Success for Heart's Cry in France''
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/p ... in-france/

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Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:33 pm

Congrats to Continuous and his connections! He has a very bright future and should only improve as the distances get longer.
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Believe(JPN) became the 31st daughter of Sunday Silence(USA) to produce one or more G1 winners worldwide, when her 7yo horse Gendarme(USA)[by Kitten's Joy(USA)] won the G1 Sprinters Stakes 1200m turf at Nakayama on Oct 2nd 2022.
Believe herself was the dual G1 winner (2002 Sprinters Stakes & 2003 Takamatsunomiya Kinen).

Gendarme(USA)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001228749/
29-7-1-3

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-- replay (Japanese full version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=739TONZche8
-- replay (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLt9aPqlEhE
1st 2 Gendarme(USA) [Kitten's Joy(USA) x Believe(JPN) by Sunday Silence(USA)] H7 57 01:07.8
2nd 7 Win Marvel(JPN) [I'll Have Another(USA) x Cosmo Marvelous(JPN) by Fuji Kiseki(JPN)] C3 55 01:07.8 NK
3rd 6 Naran Huleg(JPN) [Gold Allure(JPN) x Kelley's Beauty(JPN) by Brian's Time(USA)] H6 57 01:08.0 3/4
4th 4 Diatonic(JPN) H7 57 01:08.0 NK
5th 9 Namura Clair(JPN) F3 53 01:08.0 HD
6th 5 Eighteen Girl(JPN) M6 55 01:08.1 NK
7th 11 Travesura(JPN) H7 57 01:08.1 NK
8th 16 Maria's Heart(USA) M6 55 01:08.3 3/4
9th 15 Schnell Meister(GER) C4 57 01:08.3 HD
10th 8 First Force(JPN) H6 57 01:08.3 NK
11th 12 Vento Voce(JPN) H5 57 01:08.4 1/2
12th 3 Meisho Mimosa(JPN) M5 55 01:08.5 1/2
13th 10 Taisei Vision(JPN) H5 57 01:08.5 NK
14th 13 Meikei Yell(JPN) F4 55 01:08.7 1 1/4
15th 1 T M Spada(JPN) F3 53 01:08.8 3/4
16th 14 Loving Answer(JPN) H8 57 01:08.9 1/2


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Believe(JPN) as she won the 2002 Sprinters Stakes
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Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:08 am

aw, was rooting for Meikei Yell :(
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brunanas wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:08 am aw, was rooting for Meikei Yell :(
Meikei Yell has now been nominated to the Hong Kong Sprint.
I'm not sure that she will be selected, though..
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brunanas wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:58 pm
tachyon wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:40 pm
brunanas wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:15 pm

London Moon has just been named the Champion 2YO Colt, not surprisingly :lol:
Thanks brunanas for the updates! :D
I hope that London Moon will extend his win streak tonight!!
i'm excited too!! champ 2YO Filly Little Beauty will try to remain undefeated as well. excited for this year's TC season 8-)
London Moon(BRZ) captured his second G1 title in the Grande Premio Linneo de Paula Machado 2000m turf at Gavea on Oct 12th 2022. :D

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-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d51pJcZrNrI

https://www.jcb.com.br/home/noticias/36 ... ndon-moon/
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Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:49 am

Auguste Rodin(IRE), 2020C. Deep Impact(JPN) x Rhododendron(IRE) by Galileo(IRE), won impressively the G1 Vertem Futurity Trophy Stakes 8F turf at Doncaster on Oct 22nd 2022 overcoming the soft ground!!

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-- replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVYOo7QypjY
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-- numbers of mares bred by Sunday Silence-line stallions in North America 2022

Stallion Name -- (stallion's stallion) -- number of mares bred in 2022 -- (number of mares bred in 2021)

Dowsing(JPN)(Deep Impact) 12 (15)
Silent Name(JPN)(Sunday Silence) 61 (51)
Win Win Win(USA)(Hat Trick) 61 (90)
Yoshida(JPN)(Heart's Cry) 50 (84) :(
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Kitasan Black(JPN)(Black Tide/ Sunday Silence) sired his first G1 winner, when his first crop 3yo colt Equinox(JPN)[o/o Chateau Blanche(JPN) by King Halo(JPN)] won the G1 Tenno Sho Autumn 2000m turf at Tokyo under Christophe Lemaire defeating the older rivals on Oct 30th 2022. :D

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-- replay (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqljDQ0j9kE
-- replay (Japanese - full version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvtfIprDSwQ
1st 7 Equinox(JPN) [Kitasan Black(JPN) x Chateau Blanche(JPN) by King Halo(JPN)] C3 56 01:57.5
2nd 3 Panthalassa(JPN) [Lord Kanaloa(JPN) x Miss Pemberley(IRE) by Montjeu(IRE)] H5 58 01:57.6 1
3rd 5 Danon Beluga(JPN) [Heart's Cry(JPN) x Coasted(USA) by Tizway(USA)] C3 56 01:57.7 NK
4th 9 Jack d'Or(JPN) C4 58 01:57.8 1/2
5th 8 Shahryar(JPN) C4 58 01:58.1 2
6th 2 Karate(JPN) H6 58 01:58.2 1
7th 1 Maria Elena(JPN) F4 56 01:58.2 NS
8th 14 Uberleben(JPN) F4 56 01:58.3 NK
9th 6 Geoglyph(JPN) C3 56 01:58.3 NK
10th 13 Ablaze(JPN) M5 56 01:58.3 NK
11th 10 North Bridge(JPN) C4 58 01:58.4 HD
12th 15 Cadenas(JPN) H8 58 01:58.4 NK
13th 4 Potager(JPN) H5 58 01:58.4 NK
14th 11 Red Galant(JPN) H7 58 01:58.7 1 1/2
15th 12 Babbitt(JPN) H5 58 01:58.7 HD

Equinox(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001309176/
5-3-2-0

Kitasan Black(JPN)
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standing at Shadai Stallion Station
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tachyon wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:47 am -- numbers of mares bred by Sunday Silence-line stallions in North America 2022

Stallion Name -- (stallion's stallion) -- number of mares bred in 2022 -- (number of mares bred in 2021)

Dowsing(JPN)(Deep Impact) 12 (15)
Silent Name(JPN)(Sunday Silence) 61 (51)
Win Win Win(USA)(Hat Trick) 61 (90)
Yoshida(JPN)(Heart's Cry) 50 (84) :(
Silent Name benefits from standing in Canada due to the prevalence of turf and synthetic racing, but sadly the U.S. continues to neglect this bloodline.
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Gemini wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:02 pm
tachyon wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:47 am -- numbers of mares bred by Sunday Silence-line stallions in North America 2022

Stallion Name -- (stallion's stallion) -- number of mares bred in 2022 -- (number of mares bred in 2021)

Dowsing(JPN)(Deep Impact) 12 (15)
Silent Name(JPN)(Sunday Silence) 61 (51)
Win Win Win(USA)(Hat Trick) 61 (90)
Yoshida(JPN)(Heart's Cry) 50 (84) :(
Silent Name benefits from standing in Canada due to the prevalence of turf and synthetic racing, but sadly the U.S. continues to neglect this bloodline.
It will be very sad if Yoshida leaves the US without covering some of the TOP dirt broodmares in the US....

But I know well that Sunday Silence descendants have to show more results on the conventional dirt first in order to deny superstitions that Sunday Silence had no way to be a useful stallion in the US.
I don't imagine that breeders in the US will be convinced without the facts.
Orfevre mare Marche Lorraine won the BC Distaff last year.
But, obviously, her gallant win was not good enough to convince experts.
Okay that Distaff was nothing but a bizarre race that was led by a ridiculous pace....

So I always hope that Japanese horse people bring very top contenders, of the turf or the dirt, to the biggest dirt races in the US, the Kentucky Derby and/or the BC Classic, to restore Sunday Silence’s honor.

Let's now forget about turf races!! (haha!)
I would love to see Equinox run in the BC Classic next year!! ;)
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tachyon wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:49 am
Gemini wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:02 pm
tachyon wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:47 am -- numbers of mares bred by Sunday Silence-line stallions in North America 2022

Stallion Name -- (stallion's stallion) -- number of mares bred in 2022 -- (number of mares bred in 2021)

Dowsing(JPN)(Deep Impact) 12 (15)
Silent Name(JPN)(Sunday Silence) 61 (51)
Win Win Win(USA)(Hat Trick) 61 (90)
Yoshida(JPN)(Heart's Cry) 50 (84) :(
Silent Name benefits from standing in Canada due to the prevalence of turf and synthetic racing, but sadly the U.S. continues to neglect this bloodline.
It will be very sad if Yoshida leaves the US without covering some of the TOP dirt broodmares in the US....
I really hope when his first crop races in 2023 that they can prove that he deserves a chance. Buyers didn't seem to like his yearlings, his average was low for a stallion that stood for 20k his first year at stud.
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Sunday Silence Has Lasting Impact at Highest Level
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... hest-level
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Flanders wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:30 pm
tachyon wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:49 am
Gemini wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:02 pm
Silent Name benefits from standing in Canada due to the prevalence of turf and synthetic racing, but sadly the U.S. continues to neglect this bloodline.
It will be very sad if Yoshida leaves the US without covering some of the TOP dirt broodmares in the US....
I really hope when his first crop races in 2023 that they can prove that he deserves a chance. Buyers didn't seem to like his yearlings, his average was low for a stallion that stood for 20k his first year at stud.
Me too!
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Starine wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:25 pm Sunday Silence Has Lasting Impact at Highest Level
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... hest-level
Interesting read!
Thanks for sharing!!
I always like Alan Porter's pedigree analysis on Bloodhorse.
His reference to Goodbye Halo(USA) in this article made me smile, too, by the way.
King Halo(JPN), Dancing Brave(USA) x Goodbye Halo(USA), became an excellent broodmare sire in Japan.
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