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Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:21 pm

Very Elleegant was last in her European debut.
https://www.breednet.com.au/news/18622/ ... gledbanner
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Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:55 am

Francis Graffard reported he was happy with Verry Elleegants run on Sunday she needed the run and was ring rusty.

She will go for the Prix Vermeille next and then a crack at the Arc.

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Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am

The Late Robert Sangster's Grandson Ollie Sangster is set to start training he will be base at the Famous Manton Stables which was once owned by his Grandfather.

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Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:46 am

William Haggas has confirmed Baaeed will not run in the Irish Champion Stakes.

Its the Arc or Champion Stakes at Ascot.

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Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:11 am

20hayes20 wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:46 am William Haggas has confirmed Baaeed will not run in the Irish Champion Stakes.

Its the Arc or Champion Stakes at Ascot.

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Yay!
William Haggas says there is a "strong chance" Baaeed could end his career in the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe if ground conditions suit.
Personally I hope that the weather will be fine in Paris!
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Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:50 am

Looks that way Tachyon

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Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:31 am

I really hope he does go to the Arc, but I’m trying not to get my hopes up. Shadwell aren’t huge on rolling the dice that often and taking big swings. But, if there was any year to try 12f for the first time in the Arc, it would be this year. Besides Titleholder and Alpinista, it really is not a strong field coming together.
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Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:17 am

So there are some good horse going to the Arc - the 2 from Germany (they have had a good record in recent years)
Torquator Tasso and Sammarco - next Sundays Grosser Preis von Baden will tells us alot

As Pyledriver will be there

France will have Vadeni and Oneston plus Mare Australis and a few others

Haggas will have a few good ones

Godolpin and Ballydoyle will be will have a say

since Mill Reef ran and won the going has been a big factor and in recent years its been soft / heavy not often Good

If they go to Arc then the Champion stakes its a huge ask of any great horse and only 2 weeks between. I would hate to see Baaeed beat.
Haggas i'm sure he will do the right thing.
I'm off to Champion Day so fingers crossed he will be there
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Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:37 am

I don’t think Toquator Tasso will be a factor unless the ground turns bottomless.

It seems like connections don’t think Vadeni will get 12f, they have said in the past that they wanted to keep him to 10f. I guess we’ll learn more after Leopardstown.

Alenquer is a decent horse, as are some of the Sunderland horses that Haggas has, but they would need to come on massively to have a say.

Ballydoyle is lacking a middle distance superstar, or any 3 year old and older superstar. I’m sure Luxembourg will come on from his comeback, but who else is there? Tuesday? Broome? Their last races aren’t enough to win an Arc.

The Godolphin older horses have gone off the rails. I’m shocked they haven’t retired Adayar, and Hurricane Lane looks like he hasn’t trained on and has been MIA for a while now. Their best three year olds are all best at 8-10f.

Pyledriver and Alpinista are the best hopes that England has, as of now.
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Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:36 pm

In 2019 I shared that:
South Korean star Dolkong has probably been retired. He suffered a proximal sesamoid fracture in his left foreleg during a trial on November 22, which he won (injury was discovered afterwards). His injury is reportedly treatable. The owner is holding out hope of him racing again (Dolkong returned from a 10 month absence due to a foot abscess as a four-year-old) but he'll be six next year, quite possibly seven before he can *maybe* race again.
And to my surprise, he apparently recovered and has returned to racing.
https://www.skyracingworld.com/content. ... Cup-Sprint

He is by Afleet Alex.
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:07 am

’’Sammarco latest name to enter the Arc equation’’
https://www.attheraces.com/news/2022/Au ... c-equation

German Derby hero faces Torquator Tasso test at the weekend.
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:04 am

That should be a great race to watch Tachyon.

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Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:08 am

Joseph O'briens State Of Rest winner of the Prince Of Wales at Royal Ascot has sustained an injury and has been retired.

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Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:30 am

“The four-year-old globetrotter, who also won the Prince of Wales's Stakes at Royal Ascot this summer, had been aimed at a defence of his Moonee Valley crown in October, but an MRI scan conducted by Racing Victoria found an issue, meaning he will not pass the necessary protocols to travel to Melbourne.”

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... sue/576177

Major bummer. I know some complain about the strict protocols and the MRIs for foreign horses racing at the Melbourne Spring Carnival, but if said MRI discovered an “issue” (extremely vague there) severe enough to keep him from racing in Australia and merit immediate retirement, then I guess the whole procedure and protocols do work. At least in this one specific instance.
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:21 am

Northport wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:30 am “The four-year-old globetrotter, who also won the Prince of Wales's Stakes at Royal Ascot this summer, had been aimed at a defence of his Moonee Valley crown in October, but an MRI scan conducted by Racing Victoria found an issue, meaning he will not pass the necessary protocols to travel to Melbourne.”

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... sue/576177

Major bummer. I know some complain about the strict protocols and the MRIs for foreign horses racing at the Melbourne Spring Carnival, but if said MRI discovered an “issue” (extremely vague there) severe enough to keep him from racing in Australia and merit immediate retirement, then I guess the whole procedure and protocols do work. At least in this one specific instance.
We should have this in the Breeders Cup for all entries.
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:22 pm

20hayes20 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:08 am Joseph O'briens State Of Rest winner of the Prince Of Wales at Royal Ascot has sustained an injury and has been retired.
That's a shame; he was very talented. Guess we will just have to look forward to his foals.
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Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:49 pm

William Haggas runs a beautiful bred filly tomorrow at Salisbury called Doom by Dubawi out of the wonderful mare Dank Group 1 winner

Whatever she does tomorrow she will be a better 3 year old

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Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:34 pm

20hayes20 wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:49 pm William Haggas runs a beautiful bred filly tomorrow at Salisbury called Doom by Dubawi out of the wonderful mare Dank Group 1 winner

Whatever she does tomorrow she will be a better 3 year old

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Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:07 am

Doom a non runner

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Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:30 am

Unlike Aiden O' Brien to bring a couple of unraced 2 year olds to the U K to make there debuts.

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