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Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:14 pm

Falinadin wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:47 pm It's all about "brilliance". Charlatan had that 'it' factor, where he ran horses off their feet for most of his career, short as it was. It's how Army Mule and similar horses get mares.
Charlatan in a first year sire and Authentic is a 2nd year sire, most stallions have lesser books their 2nd year. I think Charlatan is better looking than Authentic. Charlatan also sold better as a yearling which might attract the commercial breeders. His female side is better, with his dam being a G2W/mG1P (you have to go back to Authentic's 3rd dam to find a stakes winner). Charlatan's stud fee is $20k cheaper. Into Mischief is still going strong and already has more sons at stud than Speightstown and will continue to make more. At 24 years old Speightstown's books may be being reduced in size to help him out, which would funnel more mares to his son.
I'm not necessarily saying that I 'agree' with so many nice mares going to Charlatan.... but I also get it.

As far as Knicks Go goes, he's California Chrome 2.0. Nice racehorse, but the family isn't great and he'll be overseas in a couple years.
Add to that Paynter isn't a commercial sire and that Knicks Go didn't get really good til he was pretty much 5. Breeders hate that. Sure he was precocious enough to win a G1 at 2 and place in the BC Juvenile. But he didn't do anything at 3 and missed almost his entire 4yo year. Commercial breeders would rather breed to a horse that was brilliant at 3 than a horse that was brilliant at 5.

As for Yaupon, who was mentioned in another post, he is a G1 winning sprinter by Uncle Mo. That is enough to get breeders to flock to him.
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Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:30 pm

brunanas wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:13 pm Absinthe Minded (Secret Oath) → not reported
I've been wondering about her. There was an article around the time of the Preakness saying her (and Secret Oath's) owners might miss going to the Preakness because she was due to foal that weekend. However she doesn't have a 2022 foal listed anywhere. I mean its possible she had a dead foal and they just didn't breed her back cause the foal would have been born even later next year.
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Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:42 pm

Cashing Tickets (dam of Leggs Galore) ---> Into Mischief
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Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:17 pm

Flanders wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:30 pm
brunanas wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:13 pm Absinthe Minded (Secret Oath) → not reported
I've been wondering about her. There was an article around the time of the Preakness saying her (and Secret Oath's) owners might miss going to the Preakness because she was due to foal that weekend. However she doesn't have a 2022 foal listed anywhere. I mean its possible she had a dead foal and they just didn't breed her back cause the foal would have been born even later next year.
i thought i had seen photos of her 2022 foal but i've looked everywhere and couldn't find it, so i'm guessing what i saw was her 2021 baby. i was really surprised to see she hadn't been bred for 2023. i wonder why we didn't hear anything though, given the success of Secret Oath.
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Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:44 pm

A question for anyone. Does anyone know where Unexpected ( California Chrome- Laffina) is? She last ran in January, but she is not in equineline database, though still in equibase. was she exported? Did she die? Even if she wasn't a good racehorse, given her half sister, I imagine she would be given a chance as a broodmare.
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CorridorZ75 wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:44 pm A question for anyone. Does anyone know where Unexpected ( California Chrome- Laffina) is? She last ran in January, but she is not in equineline database, though still in equibase. was she exported? Did she die? Even if she wasn't a good racehorse, given her half sister, I imagine she would be given a chance as a broodmare.
Unexpected is a colt.
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yeah, I just realized that- for some reason, I thought he was a filly. :lol:
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Madame du Lac (dam of Divisidero) --> Upstart
Made Great Again (o/o Book Review) --> Munnings
Madone --> Uncle Mo AND Speightstown
Magic of Reality (FR) (SP, family of Six Perfections) --> Munnings
Majestic Reason --> Street Sense
Malibu Beach --> Jimmy Creed
Malibu Cove (dam of Kalypso) --> Authentic
Malibu Model (½ to McKinzie) --> Liam's Map
Mama Maxine (½ to Ce Ce) --> Uncle Mo
Mama Yay (full to Dialed In) --> Union Rags AND Violence
Mandrell (o/o Country Star) --> Good Samaritan
March X Press --> Honor A.P.
Mata Mua (dam of Scarlett Sky) --> Candy Ride
May Be Now (3/4 to Al's Gal) --> Uncle Mo
Maybellene --> Gormley
Meadowsweet (o/o Tranquility Lake) --> Into Mischief
Medusa (o/o Wait a While) --> Brethren
Memento d'Oro (o/o Intangaroo) --> Practical Joke
Merry Meadow --> Constitution
Miss Stormy D --> Gun Runner
Misty North (dam of War Like Goddess) --> Curlin
Modification (G1P, dam of Yaupon) --> Gun Runner
Moonlight Sky (SP, ½ to Abel Tasman) --> Curlin
Mufajaah --> Curlin
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Lake Garda (by American Pharoah) ---> Uncle Mo
Profit (by Not For Love) ---> Caracaro
Freedom (by War Front) ---> Caravaggio
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Mezah (½ to Mine That Bird, Dullahan) --> Practical Joke
Mi Vida (2nd dam is Dream Supreme) --> Authentic
Milania (o/o Keeper Hill) --> Charlatan
Mines and Magic --> Maxfield
Minnie Macy (½ to Liam's Map, etc.) --> Quality Road
Miss Catomine (o/o Sweet Catomine) --> Daredevil
Miss Empire --> City of Light
Miss Houdini --> Global Campaign
Miss Squeal (dam of Spielberg) --> Gun Runner
Miss Sunset --> Quality Road
Mo' Green --> American Pharoah
Molly Morgan --> Liam's Map
Mom's On Strike --> Twirling Candy
Momentiempo (½ to Time and Motion) --> Dialed In
Moonlight d'Oro --> Authentic
Moonlit Promise --> Charlatan
Moonstone (½ to Shedaresthedevil) --> Constitution
More’n Likely (½ to Hootenanny) --> Not This Time
Moving Away (½ to Higher Power, Alternation) --> Take Charge Indy
Moving Moon (IRE) (dam is full to Rock of Gibraltar) --> Omaha Beach
Moyne Abbey (dam of Wicked Strong) --> Candy Ride
Ms Locust Point --> Into Mischief
Ms Short Fuze (½ to Cloud Computing) --> Authentic
Mucho Unusual --> American Pharoah
Munasara (o/o Lahudood) --> Curlin
Murafrif (IRE) (½ to Tantheem) --> Kitten's Joy
My Miss Tapit --> Charlatan
Myriad --> Street Sense
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Nagambie (dam of Juju's Map) --> Gun Runner
Naples Parade (½ to Long Island Sound) --> Into Mischief
Naples Princess (family of Live Lively) --> Curlin
No Joke (½ to Moonshine Memories) --> Gun Runner
No Sweat (SP, ½ to Looking Cool) --> Essential Quality
No Trespassing (½ to Lookin at Lucky) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Nobody's Fault (SW, ½ to Vacare) --> War Front
Nomadic (FR) (family of Freedonia) --> Cupid
Not Ready (o/o Zaftig) --> American Pharoah

Oblige (dam of Hunter O'Riley) --> Tiz the Law
Ocean Goddess (dam of Ocean Knight, Nero) --> Gun Runner
Ocean Reef (½ to Catalina Cruiser, Eagle) --> Honor A.P.
Off Topic --> More Than Ready
Orphea (o/o Nasty Storm) --> Unified
Oscar Party --> Constitution
Our Smile (½ to Order of St George) --> Mendelssohn
Outburst (GB) --> Charlatan
Overprepared (SW, ½ to Shadow Cast) --> Goldencents
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Pachinko (½ to Announce, Mexican Gold) --> Not This Time
Pacific Gale --> Uncle Mo
Palace Princess (o/o Arienza) --> Munnings
Paradise Alley (o/o Sealy Hill) --> Justify
Parris Hill (½ to Take Charge Lady) --> Lexitonian
Passion Flower (½ to Shopchargingmaria) --> City of Light
Patou (o/o Cambiocorsa) --> City of Light
Patti's Regal Song (dam of Maracuja) --> Charlatan
Pearl Turn (dam of Gretzky the Great) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Peppy Rafaela (dam of Mopotism) --> Uncle Mo
Perfect for You (dam of Romantic Vision) --> Game Winner
Photograph (½ to Lines of Battle/Helene Super Star) --> Constitution
Perfect La Comete (½ to Munnings) --> Speightstown
Pinkie Pact (½ to Air Force Blue) --> Collected
Playtime (o/o Storm Flag Flying) --> Into Mischief
Plein Air (IRE) --> Collected
Plenty O'Toole (dam of Mr. Money) --> War of Will
Plus One (SW, dam of No Parole) --> Gun Runner
Positive Spirit --> Into Mischief
Precious Princess (dam of Zipessa) --> Mineshaft
Primp (½ to McKinzie) --> Maximum Security
Princess Aspen (½ to Zazu, Flashback) --> Violence
Princess La Quinta --> Into Mischief
Princess Peggy (½ to Gamine) --> Curlin
Private Client (½ to Keertana, Snow Top Mountain, Diversy Harbor) --> Nyquist
Project Whiskey --> Maxfield
Promotional (GSP, 3/4 to Marketing Mix) --> Munnings
Pure Silver --> Constitution
Purely a Dream --> Essential Quality
Purely Hot (dam of Eight Rings) --> Into Mischief
Purrfectly Mine (½ to Santa Catarina) --> Gun Runner
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Quargent (o/o Naples Bay) --> Liam's Map
Quiet Flirt (½ to Gun Runner) --> Into Mischief
Queen Bee to You --> Not This Time
Queen Eli (½ to Rushing Fall) --> Nyquist
Queen Nekia --> Gun Runner
Queen's Wood (dam of True Timber) --> Speightstown
Quiet Place (½ to Songbird) --> Quality Road

Rare Event (dam of Improbable) --> Curlin
Rayya --> Speightstown
Ready to Act --> Improbable
Rebalite (½ to Lite Light, dam of Race Day) --> Take Charge Indy
Receivership (dam of Palace) --> More Than Ready AND Improbable
Recollect (full to Winter Memories) --> Charlatan
Recollection (½ to Imagining) --> Ghostzapper
Red Lark (IRE) --> Essential Quality
Regia Marina (½ to Midshipman, Fast Cookie) --> Cairo Prince
Reina Maria (dam of Maximus Mischief) --> Into Mischief
Reve d'Amour (o/o Smolensk) --> Munnings
Riley's Choice (½ to Sharing) --> Street Sense
Riviera Romper (dam of Lexitonian) --> Keen Ice AND Speightstown
Road to Victory --> Into Mischief
Rocket Twentyone (dam of Frank's Rockette) --> Into Mischief
Rose and Shine (dam of British Idiom) --> Quality Road
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Rehear (dam of Mani Bhavan, etc.) --> Twirling Candy
Rehearsed (½ to Mani Bhavan, etc.) --> Candy Ride
Reimpose (½ to Flute) --> Tiz the Law
Remit (MSW, dam of Finite) --> Silver State
Reunited (dam of Code of Honor) --> Quality Road
Room for Me --> Improbable
Roxy Gap --> Justify
Rubindy (½ to Red Ruby, Beautician, Mo Tom) --> Street Boss
Ruthville --> Union Rags

Saba (FR) (½ to Sagawara) --> Yaupon
Sass and Class (dam of Royal Charlotte) --> Curlin
Sassifaction (dam of Cambodia) --> Twirling Candy
Savvy Star (½ to Bluegrass Cat) --> Speightstown
Scratch N Claw (½ to In Lingerie) --> Justify
Search and Seizure (dam of Tammy the Torpedo, Seek and Destroy) --> Charlatan
Secret Thoughts (o/o Chicquita) --> Charlatan
Seek and Destroy --> Into Mischief
Sex Symbol (o/o Icon Project) --> Gun Runner
Shadowing (o/o Streaming) --> Into Mischief
Shenandoah Queen --> Gun Runner
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Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:47 pm

brunanas wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:09 am not released:
Improbable
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Saharan (½ to My Conquestadory) --> West Coast
Sambuca Classica (dam of Classic Empire) --> Quality Road
Sangrita (½ to Offlee Wild, dam of Tequilita) --> Hard Spun
Scribbling Sarah (dam of Speech) --> Constitution
Sea Trial (o/o Storm Flag Flying) --> Blame
Second Street City (dam of Con Lima) --> Constitution
Secret Jewel (½ to Shared Account) --> Munnings
Secret Message --> Into Mischief
Secret Sigh (½ to Mozu Ascot) --> Gun Runner
Selflessly --> Charlatan
Sensible Gal (½ to Get Stormy) --> Authentic
Serenading --> Charlatan
Settle 'n Speight (½ to Tonalist) --> Honor A.P.
Settling for Gold (½ to Tonalist) --> Silver State
Shadow Play (½ to Hootenanny) --> American Pharoah
Shane's Girlfriend --> American Pharoah
She's Funny (o/o Hystericalady) --> Street Sense
Shieldmaiden (dam of Fair Maiden) --> Omaha Beach
Silk Route (dam of Taraz) --> Into Mischief
Silky Serenade (dam of Restless Rider) --> Justify
Silver At Midnight (o/o Silverbulletday) --> American Pharoah
Silver Reunion --> Cairo Prince AND War Front
Silverbulletfolly (o/o Silverbulletday) --> Raging Bull
Silvery Starlet (½ to Maimonides, El Corredor) --> Into Mischief
Size --> Violence
Slew of Money (½ to Awesome Slew) --> More Than Ready
Slew's Quality (dam of Shamrock Rose) --> Nyquist
Slewfoundmoney (dam of Awesome Slew, etc.) --> Not This Time
Smart Shopping (SP, ½ to Power Broker) --> Constitution
Smashing Serena (o/o Serena's Sister) --> Charlatan
Smiling Causeway --> Gun Runner
Smooth As Usual (dam of Smooth Like Strait) --> City of Light
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Soarwiththebirds (3/4 to Up With the Birds) --> Maclean's Music
Sociable (dam of Keeper Ofthe Stars) --> Midnight Lute
Solent (o/o Sightseek) --> Constitution
Solerina (dam of Concrete Rose) --> Game Winner
Solid Appeal --> Twirling Candy
Song of Bernadette (dam of Catholic Boy) --> Gun Runner
Sounds of the City (SP, dam of Venetian Harbor) --> Gun Runner
Sotto Voce (full to Cupid) --> Gun Runner
South Bank (o/o Special Duty) --> Violence
Southern Girl (½ to Mucho Macho Man) --> Maclean's Music
Southern Ring --> Curlin
Special Relativity --> Constitution
Special Thanks (o/o Bedanken) --> Constitution
Spellbind (GB) (½ to Street Sense) --> Maximum Security
Spelling Again --> Quality Road
Spice Is Nice --> Into Mischief
Stageplay --> Medaglia d'Oro
Stainless --> Charlatan
Starship Jubilee --> Quality Road
Stayclassysandiego (dam of Pretty N Cool) --> Gun Runner
Stormy B (dam of Itsaknockout) --> Maxfield
Stormy Caress (½ to West Coast) --> Union Rags
Strike Charmer --> Into Mischief
Stunning Sky --> Medaglia d'Oro
Sue's Good News (dam of Tiz Miz Sue, Bulletin) --> Not This Time
Sue's Sweet Sioux (½ to Tiz Miz Sue, Bulletin) --> Practical Joke
Summer in Saratoga --> Munnings
Summer Love (ARG) --> Gun Runner
Summer Vacation (o/o Dream of Summer) --> Gun Runner
Summersault --> Charlatan
Super Philly (½ to Got Stormy) --> Tapiture
Sundaysatthebeach (o/o Ask the Moon) --> Uncle Mo
Sunny Dale --> Gun Runner
Sweet Awakening (dam of Are You Kidding Me) --> Gun Runner
Sweet Bernardini (o/o Sweet Catomine) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Sweeter Still (IRE) (GSW, dam of Kameko) --> Kitten's Joy
Swingit --> Charlatan
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Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:15 pm

I hope Kitten's Joy got decent mares this year.
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Talkin And Singing (dam of Danzing Candy) --> Justify
Tamboz (full to Tapizar) --> Liam's Map
Tap Gun (½ to Gun Runner) --> Quality Road
Tapas (½ to Justwhistledixie) --> Quality Road
Tapitry (GSP, o/o My Trusty Cat) --> Munnings
Tapping Colors (½ to Eskimo Kisses) --> Street Sense
Team of Teams --> Constitution
Thicker Than Water (½ to Kantharos) --> Flameaway
This Tea --> Into Mischief
Tiger Ride --> Charlatan
Tiz o' Gold (dam of Bravazo) --> Speightstown
Tizahit --> Curlin
Tiztalented (½ to Bodemeister) --> Hard Spun
Tocco d’Amore (IRE) --> Caravaggio
Tokyo Time --> Speightstown
Too Complicated (o/o It's Tricky) --> Street Boss
Torre di Pisa (½ to Karelian) --> Catalina Cruiser
Tortuga Lady (dam of Princess Arabella, etc.) --> Game Winner
Touch of Grace (o/o Sealy Hill) --> Kantharos
Transplendid --> Gun Runner
Treasuring (SW, full to Streaming) --> Uncle Mo
Try Your Luck --> Candy Ride
Twenty Carat --> Gun Runner
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