2022 Matings

[mariasmon]

Eileen's Dream (½ to Dream Rush) --> Curlin
Eileen's Song (o/o Rutherienne) --> Essential Quality
Elaine's Cat (o/o Unbridled Elaine) --> Street Boss
Elusive Bird (o/o Bird Town) --> Maximus Mischief
Elusive Collection --> Yaupon
Emily B (½ to Awesome Maria) --> Justify
Enaya Alrabb --> Into Mischief
End Times (o/o Last Full Measure) --> Improbable
Endless Chatter --> Game Winner
Engaginglee --> Complexity
Enliven (o/o It's Tricky) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Enrichment (full to Better Lucky) --> Essential Quality
Eres Tu --> Daredevil
Essentially (½ to Runway Model) --> Twirling Candy
Espresso Time (o/o Super Espresso) --> Liam's Map
Evidently --> Hard Spun

[mariasmon]

Fairyland --> Omaha Beach
Faithfully --> Munnings
Fantastic Style --> Charlatan
Farofa (o/o Pure Clan) --> Constitution
Feedback --> Constitution
Feel That Fire (dam of Mind Control) --> Uncle Mo AND Curlin
Field (½ to Lea) --> Uncle Mo
Fierce Boots --> Uncle Mo AND Constitution
Figure of Speech --> Gun Runner
Fila Primera --> Tonalist
Filare l'Oro (SW/GSP, dam of Silver Dust) --> Charlatan
Final Reward (dam is ½ to Kitten's Joy, full to Precious Kitten) --> Audible
Flawless (dam of Authentic) --> Into Mischief
Flipcup --> Curlin
Flirting With Fate (dam of Dance With Fate) --> Mo Town
Flora Dora --> Candy Ride
Floy (dam of Hogy) --> Hard Spun
Fly So High --> Gun Runner
Flying Spur --> Omaha Beach
Four Sugars (½ to Flashy Bull) --> Charlatan
Fresh Feline --> Accelerate
Fuhriously Kissed --> Quality Road
Fun Affair (½ to West Coast) --> Not This Time
Funfair --> Charlatan

[mariasmon]

Gale Force --> Quality Road
Galileo's Lady (o/o Lady Shakespeare) --> More Than Ready
Game For More (dam of Isotherm) --> Not This Time
Gangbusters (½ to Mind Control) --> Bolt d'Oro
Giant Blossom (o/o Cotton Blossom) --> Hard Spun
Giant Deduction (½ to Suntracer, Leading Astray) --> Tiz the Law
Glittering Jewel (½ to Street Sense) --> Street Boss
Global Brand (SP, o/o Marketing Mix) --> Caravaggio
Glory Dancer (dam of Bigger Picture, etc.) --> Oscar Nominated
Going for Broke --> Ghostzapper
Gold Serenade (o/o Serena's Song) --> Not This Time
Golden Principal --> Quality Road
Goldfield (dam of Complexity, Valadorna) --> Charlatan
Grand Cru Classe --> Street Sense
Grand Moon (full to Malibu Prayer) --> Tonalist
Grand Prix (SW, ½ to Finest City) --> Quality Road
Great Island --> Quality Road
Greenfield d'Oro (o/o Maryfield) --> American Pharoah
Grosse Pointe Anne (½ to Uncle Mo) --> Complexity
Guiltless (dam of Du Jour) --> Street Sense

[mariasmon]

Hallie Gay (o/o Jostle) --> Good Samaritan AND Independence Hall
Halljoy (IRE) --> Practical Joke
Halloween Party (dam of Morticia) --> Audible
Happy Week --> Into Mischief
Hard to Resist (dam of Going to Vegas) --> Charlatan
Haunted Heroine (MSW, ½ to Celestine) --> City of Light
Hearty Laugh (½ to Dreaming of Anna, etc.) --> Into Mischief
Helensvale (o/o In the Gold) --> Tiz the Law
Hello Dearie (o/o Bit of Whimsy) --> Preservationist
Hey Paige (½ to Nickname) --> Liam's Map
Hibiscus Punch --> Munnings
Hidden Message --> Kitten's Joy
Highway Mary (dam of Hit the Road) --> Gun Runner
Hillhouse High --> Charlatan
Hollywood Heroine (o/o Hollywood Story) --> Charlatan
Honest Answer (dam of Law Abidin Citizen) --> Tacitus

[mariasmon]

I Bet Toni Knows (SW, dam of Toinette) --> Improbable
I Wonder (o/o Roan Inish) --> Audible
I'll Show Me (½ to Proud Spell) --> Maclean's Music
I'm a Looker --> Charlatan
I'm the Reason (o/o Blind Luck) --> Audible
Ida Clark (dam of Just One Time) --> Essential Quality
Ifurhappynuknowit (o/o Mushka) --> Uncle Mo
Illicit Affair (o/o Silverbulletday) --> Frosted
Inlovewithlove (dam of Lovely Bernadette) --> Twirling Candy
In the Moonlight (½ to Wilburn, etc.) --> Gun Runner
In Tune --> Curlin
Indian Pride --> Constitution
Indy Punch (dam of Harlan Punch, etc.) --> Into Mischief
Inspired by Grace (full to Off the Tracks) --> Authentic
Inventive (dam of Klimt) --> Charlatan
Is It Gold (½ to Swiss Skydiver) --> Street Sense
Isabel's On It (GB) (o/o Check the Label) --> Omaha Beach
Istiraaha (full to Tapizar) --> Tom's d'Etat
It Tiz Well --> Into Mischief
Ivana Beat Yabad (½ to Songbird) --> Charlatan
Ivory Empress (dam of McCraken, etc.) --> Authentic

[BaroqueAgain1]

Dream of Summer --> Knicks Go

I know KG was a talented racehorse, but I kind of hate seeing a blue-hen-mare like DoS going to a freshman stallion.

[mariasmon]

Jazz Tune (dam of Rattle N Roll) --> Quality Road
Julia's Kitty (½ to Mr. Money) --> Constitution
Just Talkin (SP, full to Lady Shipman) --> Maxfield

Kallio --> Gun Runner
Kareena (½ to Mozu Ascot) --> Constitution
Kateri (½ to Tiz Miz Sue, dam of Souper Sensational) --> Curlin
Kydd Gloves (dam of She's a Julie) --> Tamarkuz

La Madrina (½ to Verrazano, El Padrino) --> Gun Runner
La Manta Gris --> Street Sense
Lady Godiva (dam of Leofric) --> Gun Runner
Lady Hester (o/o Questing) --> Liam's Map
Lady Mamba (½ to Luminance) --> Honor A.P.
Lady Sabelia --> Yaupon
Lady Tapit --> Munnings
Lady Ten --> Into Mischief
Laffina (dam of Bast) --> Uncle Mo
Land Mine (½ to Bar of Gold) --> Uncle Mo
Laurier (½ to Skyler’s Scramjet) --> Not This Time
Layreebelle (dam of Spellbound, Kid Cruz) --> Candy Ride
Lazy Susan (½ to Last Full Measure) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Le Relais (dam of Soldat) --> Good Magic
Lemon Gin (½ to Without Parole, Tamarkuz) --> Tiz the Law AND Upstart
Lemoona --> Into Mischief

[mariasmon]

Dream of Summer --> Knicks Go

I know KG was a talented racehorse, but I kind of hate seeing a blue-hen-mare like DoS going to a freshman stallion.

I kind of hate to see a 23-year-old mare get bred She has been SO good to them and I truly hope she produces a nice KG foal next year. But it's not worth the risk.

[mariasmon]

Lift Up --> Liam's Map
Lil Nugget (dam of Dr. Schivel) --> Violence
Little Jude (½ to Little Mike) --> Classic Empire AND Tiz the Law
Lira (½ to Avenge) --> Uncle Mo
Locally Known (½ to Temple City) --> Gormley
Lonely Road --> Not This Time
Love Contract (dam of Bella Sofia) --> Uncle Mo
Love This Kitty (½ to Hootenanny) --> Volatile
Lovely Daughter (½ to Starship Truffles) --> Mitole
Lovely Isle --> Daredevil
Lucky I Guess (o/o Blind Luck) --> Tiz the Law
Luna Rosa (½ to Gabby's Golden Gal, etc.) --> Tiz the Law

[brunanas]

i'm still really curious as to why Charlatan is getting so many good mares. he only lasted 5 starts, had a positive test in one of his 2 Gr. I wins (of course that has been disputed, but still..) and had a pretty high stud fee. it seems he is getting better mares than KG who was HOTY and EQ who is a dual champion... might be a stretch but this looks like one of the best 1st books since AP and Justify.

[brunanas]

Little Jude (½ to Little Mike) --> Classic Empire AND Tiz the Law

in cases like these, she's technically I/F to the 2nd name, right? as in that was her second cover?

[mariasmon]

Little Jude (½ to Little Mike) --> Classic Empire AND Tiz the Law

in cases like these, she's technically I/F to the 2nd name, right? as in that was her second cover?

I list the one the mare is i/f/t first and other covers after that.

[mariasmon]

i'm still really curious as to why Charlatan is getting so many good mares. he only lasted 5 starts, had a positive test in one of his 2 Gr. I wins (of course that has been disputed, but still..) and had a pretty high stud fee. it seems he is getting better mares than KG who was HOTY and EQ who is a dual champion... might be a stretch but this looks like one of the best 1st books since AP and Justify.

I wish I understood it. I don't really get all the love for Yaupon, either. The only explanation for Charlatan is that Hill n Dale is throwing a lot of weight behind him, along with other entities who were part of his racing career.

[brunanas]

i'm still really curious as to why Charlatan is getting so many good mares. he only lasted 5 starts, had a positive test in one of his 2 Gr. I wins (of course that has been disputed, but still..) and had a pretty high stud fee. it seems he is getting better mares than KG who was HOTY and EQ who is a dual champion... might be a stretch but this looks like one of the best 1st books since AP and Justify.

I wish I understood it. I don't really get all the love for Yaupon, either. The only explanation for Charlatan is that Hill n Dale is throwing a lot of weight behind him, along with other entities who were part of his racing career.

i feel like he is getting a better book than Authentic did on his first year and i might be mistaken but imo Authentic got way more support from Spendthrift and his other owners/shareholders than what Charlatan is getting from his, given he was HOTY/Champ 3YO and all. it's strange really. i was expecting him to snatch a few good mares, but if by the start of the season you told me all these he got were going to a 1st crop sire, i'd be guessing either EQ or Knicks, maybe even Maxfield. he will have no excuses really when they hit the track.

[mariasmon]

i'm still really curious as to why Charlatan is getting so many good mares. he only lasted 5 starts, had a positive test in one of his 2 Gr. I wins (of course that has been disputed, but still..) and had a pretty high stud fee. it seems he is getting better mares than KG who was HOTY and EQ who is a dual champion... might be a stretch but this looks like one of the best 1st books since AP and Justify.

I wish I understood it. I don't really get all the love for Yaupon, either. The only explanation for Charlatan is that Hill n Dale is throwing a lot of weight behind him, along with other entities who were part of his racing career.

i feel like he is getting a better book than Authentic did on his first year and i might be mistaken but imo Authentic got way more support from Spendthrift and his other owners/shareholders than what Charlatan is getting from his, given he was HOTY/Champ 3YO and all. it's strange really. i was expecting him to snatch a few good mares, but if by the start of the season you told me all these he got were going to a 1st crop sire, i'd be guessing either EQ or Knicks, maybe even Maxfield. he will have no excuses really when they hit the track.

I usually make my list into a spreadsheet when I'm finished. It's interesting to sort by stallion and compare. I never got around to making a spreadsheet from my 2021 list, but it's not too late. It won't be a complete list for Authentic or Charlatan, mind you. It should be enough to give a inkling of how their first books compare, though.

[brunanas]

I wish I understood it. I don't really get all the love for Yaupon, either. The only explanation for Charlatan is that Hill n Dale is throwing a lot of weight behind him, along with other entities who were part of his racing career.

i feel like he is getting a better book than Authentic did on his first year and i might be mistaken but imo Authentic got way more support from Spendthrift and his other owners/shareholders than what Charlatan is getting from his, given he was HOTY/Champ 3YO and all. it's strange really. i was expecting him to snatch a few good mares, but if by the start of the season you told me all these he got were going to a 1st crop sire, i'd be guessing either EQ or Knicks, maybe even Maxfield. he will have no excuses really when they hit the track.

I usually make my list into a spreadsheet when I'm finished. It's interesting to sort by stallion and compare. I never got around to making a spreadsheet from my 2021 list, but it's not too late. It won't be a complete list for Authentic or Charlatan, mind you. It should be enough to give a inkling of how their first books compare, though.

i don't know if you want to add him as of course his boik isn't nowhere near theirs, but i have Tiz the Law's report of mares bred from Equineline if you're interested.

[Mylute]

has anyone heard anything about "top tier" mares visiting Knicks Go?

Not seen a whole lot shared here...

Other than maybe Dream of Summer, which is a big surprise.

[Falinadin]

It's all about "brilliance". Charlatan had that 'it' factor, where he ran horses off their feet for most of his career, short as it was. It's how Army Mule and similar horses get mares.
Charlatan in a first year sire and Authentic is a 2nd year sire, most stallions have lesser books their 2nd year. I think Charlatan is better looking than Authentic. Charlatan also sold better as a yearling which might attract the commercial breeders. His female side is better, with his dam being a G2W/mG1P (you have to go back to Authentic's 3rd dam to find a stakes winner). Charlatan's stud fee is $20k cheaper. Into Mischief is still going strong and already has more sons at stud than Speightstown and will continue to make more. At 24 years old Speightstown's books may be being reduced in size to help him out, which would funnel more mares to his son.
I'm not necessarily saying that I 'agree' with so many nice mares going to Charlatan.... but I also get it.

As far as Knicks Go goes, he's California Chrome 2.0. Nice racehorse, but the family isn't great and he'll be overseas in a couple years.

[Mylute]

I would say that Knicks Go's pedigree is more "fashionable" than Chrome's was, which is in his favor.

Paynter has stood his entire career in Kentucky, was a MGSW, and has sired several other stakes horses. Lucky Pulpit...not so much.

Curiously, they're both o/o mares by Maryland-associated stallions.

[brunanas]

Charlatan in a first year sire and Authentic is a 2nd year sire, most stallions have lesser books their 2nd year.

you've made some real nice points and i think that helps clear some things up for me at least. just in this part what i meant is that he is getting a better first book than Authentic did last year.