2022 Matings
- mariasmon
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America --> Curlin
Antoinette --> Into Mischief
Avenge --> Into Mischief
Baciami Piccola (GB) --> Kitten's Joy
Beach Walk (dam of Life Is Good) --> Into Mischief
Belle of the Hall --> Into Mischief
Butterflies (IRE) (½ to Giant's Causeway) --> Into Mischief
By the Light --> Into Mischief
By the Moon --> Curlin
Cheery (dam of Elate) --> Into Mischief
Civil Union --> Into Mischief
Cover Song --> Into Mischief
Daddys Lil Darling --> Into Mischief
Dreamologist --> Into Mischief
Dunbar Road --> Into Mischief
Fancy Dress Party --> Into Mischief
Faufiler (IRE) --> Into Mischief
Filimbi --> Into Mischief
Fleet of Gold --> Charlatan
Antoinette --> Into Mischief
Avenge --> Into Mischief
Baciami Piccola (GB) --> Kitten's Joy
Beach Walk (dam of Life Is Good) --> Into Mischief
Belle of the Hall --> Into Mischief
Butterflies (IRE) (½ to Giant's Causeway) --> Into Mischief
By the Light --> Into Mischief
By the Moon --> Curlin
Cheery (dam of Elate) --> Into Mischief
Civil Union --> Into Mischief
Cover Song --> Into Mischief
Daddys Lil Darling --> Into Mischief
Dreamologist --> Into Mischief
Dunbar Road --> Into Mischief
Fancy Dress Party --> Into Mischief
Faufiler (IRE) --> Into Mischief
Filimbi --> Into Mischief
Fleet of Gold --> Charlatan
- mariasmon
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Dogtag --> Into Mischief
Gas Station Sushi --> Yaupon
Golden Award --> Into Mischief
Got Stormy --> Yaupon
Grazie Mille (dam of Mo Town) --> Into Mischief
Greer Lynn (dam of Mia Mischief) --> Into Mischief
Highway Star --> Curlin
Holy Helena --> Yaupon
I'm a Chatterbox --> Into Mischief
Joint Return --> Bolt d'Oro
Late Night Pow Wow --> Charlatan
Lewis Bay --> Into Mischief
Lull --> Curlin
Maraschino Red (dam of Arrest Me Red) --> American Pharoah
Mary's Follies --> Into Mischief
Micheline --> Curlin
Misty Rosette --> Honest Mischief
More Oats Please (dam of Peace and War) --> Not This Time
Motion Emotion --> Yaupon
My Tina (dam of Midnight Storm) --> Tiz the Law
Gas Station Sushi --> Yaupon
Golden Award --> Into Mischief
Got Stormy --> Yaupon
Grazie Mille (dam of Mo Town) --> Into Mischief
Greer Lynn (dam of Mia Mischief) --> Into Mischief
Highway Star --> Curlin
Holy Helena --> Yaupon
I'm a Chatterbox --> Into Mischief
Joint Return --> Bolt d'Oro
Late Night Pow Wow --> Charlatan
Lewis Bay --> Into Mischief
Lull --> Curlin
Maraschino Red (dam of Arrest Me Red) --> American Pharoah
Mary's Follies --> Into Mischief
Micheline --> Curlin
Misty Rosette --> Honest Mischief
More Oats Please (dam of Peace and War) --> Not This Time
Motion Emotion --> Yaupon
My Tina (dam of Midnight Storm) --> Tiz the Law
- mariasmon
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Paris Lights --> Into Mischief
Peggy Jane (dam of Gamine) --> Curlin
Point of Honor --> Into Mischief
Pretty N Cool --> Charlatan
Rubies are Red (½ to Tapit) --> Yaupon
Salty --> Into Mischief
Separationofpowers --> Into Mischief
Shamrock Rose --> Curlin
She's a Julie --> Into Mischief
Sippican Harbor --> Into Mischief
Tiger Moth --> Charlatan
Tin Type Gal --> Curlin
Toasting --> Quality Road
Tonalist's Shape --> Charlatan
Tsunami of Love (o/o My Typhoon) --> Curlin
Unbridled Mo --> Into Mischief
Veracity (half to the dam of Elate, o/o Yell) --> Authentic
Vexatious --> Into Mischief
Wait No More (o/o Wait a While) --> Not This Time
Warren's Veneda --> Clubhouse Ride
Yahilwa --> Into Mischief
Zofelle (IRE) --> Into Mischief
Peggy Jane (dam of Gamine) --> Curlin
Point of Honor --> Into Mischief
Pretty N Cool --> Charlatan
Rubies are Red (½ to Tapit) --> Yaupon
Salty --> Into Mischief
Separationofpowers --> Into Mischief
Shamrock Rose --> Curlin
She's a Julie --> Into Mischief
Sippican Harbor --> Into Mischief
Tiger Moth --> Charlatan
Tin Type Gal --> Curlin
Toasting --> Quality Road
Tonalist's Shape --> Charlatan
Tsunami of Love (o/o My Typhoon) --> Curlin
Unbridled Mo --> Into Mischief
Veracity (half to the dam of Elate, o/o Yell) --> Authentic
Vexatious --> Into Mischief
Wait No More (o/o Wait a While) --> Not This Time
Warren's Veneda --> Clubhouse Ride
Yahilwa --> Into Mischief
Zofelle (IRE) --> Into Mischief
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I see many top mares going to Charlatan...and I don't get it. What did he ever do to deserve that kind of support?
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- Flanders
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Its a mix of him winning - 4 out of 5 starts, a 3yo TC prep race, a 8f G1, his first 4 races by open lengthsBaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:05 pm I see many top mares going to Charlatan...and I don't get it. What did he ever do to deserve that kind of support?
having a commercial pedigree
his ownership group to support him
beating Knicks Go in their only meetup (yes he lost the race too but doesn't matter)
I thought the 50k stud fee was a big reach when they first announced it but everyone seems fine with it.
- Miss Woodford
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His name is certainly apt.BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:05 pm I see many top mares going to Charlatan...and I don't get it. What did he ever do to deserve that kind of support?
- ThreeMustangs
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Nailed it.Miss Woodford wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:41 pmHis name is certainly apt.BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:05 pm I see many top mares going to Charlatan...and I don't get it. What did he ever do to deserve that kind of support?
- brunanas
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don't know if this fits here, but BH+ now has mares bred in numbers for a few stallions (i believe only second year+, as i have looked through some first year and none are available), so here are the numbers for the most well known second year sires (in comparison to 2021):
Tiz the Law - 218 (160)
Authentic - 202 (229)
Vekoma - 196 (222)
McKinzie - 171 (214)
Volatile - 157 (181)
Instagrand - 141 (190)
Game Winner - 131 (157)
Thousand Words - 121 (184)
War of Will - 112 (143)
Maximum Security - 100 (135)
Echo Town - 87 (93)
Honor A.P. - 81 (110)
Country House - 31 (58)
not released:
Improbable
Toms d'Etat
i think that's all. if there any numbers y'all want but you can't access BH+ just lmk and i'll check that out for you
Tiz the Law - 218 (160)
Authentic - 202 (229)
Vekoma - 196 (222)
McKinzie - 171 (214)
Volatile - 157 (181)
Instagrand - 141 (190)
Game Winner - 131 (157)
Thousand Words - 121 (184)
War of Will - 112 (143)
Maximum Security - 100 (135)
Echo Town - 87 (93)
Honor A.P. - 81 (110)
Country House - 31 (58)
not released:
Improbable
Toms d'Etat
i think that's all. if there any numbers y'all want but you can't access BH+ just lmk and i'll check that out for you
i like plushies. a lot.
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The only stallion on your list who had more mares this year was Tiz the Law. Everyone else dropped quite a bit.
An early judgment on their success as sires? Or a statement on the state of the economy?
An early judgment on their success as sires? Or a statement on the state of the economy?
- mariasmon
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Airs (½ to Covfefe) --> Yaupon
Ancient Goddess (FR) --> Good Magic
Assets of War (dam of Instagrand) --> Vino Rosso AND Authentic
Athena's War (KOR) (full to Maximum Security) --> Charlatan
Awestruck (SP, ½ to Tiz the Law) --> City of Light
Ausus --> Maclean's Music
Azm (o/o Marketing Mix) --> Curlin
Berned --> Into Mischief
Bloody Point (o/o Mona de Momma, ½ to Vekoma) --> Quality Road
Bonita Mia (½ to Carina Mia) --> Authentic
Broadway's Alibi --> City of Light
Cash Control --> Goldencents
Cheery Oats (o/o Oatsee) --> Charlatan
Cherry Lodge --> Curlin
Communique --> Union Rags
Compelled --> Curlin
Cozze Up Lady (dam of Kimari) --> Charlatan
Crystal Moon (o/o Kitten's Point) --> Not This Time
Ancient Goddess (FR) --> Good Magic
Assets of War (dam of Instagrand) --> Vino Rosso AND Authentic
Athena's War (KOR) (full to Maximum Security) --> Charlatan
Awestruck (SP, ½ to Tiz the Law) --> City of Light
Ausus --> Maclean's Music
Azm (o/o Marketing Mix) --> Curlin
Berned --> Into Mischief
Bloody Point (o/o Mona de Momma, ½ to Vekoma) --> Quality Road
Bonita Mia (½ to Carina Mia) --> Authentic
Broadway's Alibi --> City of Light
Cash Control --> Goldencents
Cheery Oats (o/o Oatsee) --> Charlatan
Cherry Lodge --> Curlin
Communique --> Union Rags
Compelled --> Curlin
Cozze Up Lady (dam of Kimari) --> Charlatan
Crystal Moon (o/o Kitten's Point) --> Not This Time
- Miss Woodford
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Not all mares have reported yet. Wait for the official Jockey Club Report of Mares BredBaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:51 am The only stallion on your list who had more mares this year was Tiz the Law. Everyone else dropped quite a bit.
An early judgment on their success as sires? Or a statement on the state of the economy?
- mariasmon
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Daddy Is a Legend --> Curlin
Danceinthesunlight (dam of Moreno) --> Maclean's Music
Dawn the Destroyer --> Curlin
Delightful Joy --> Into Mischief
Devil By Design --> Into Mischief
Discreet Moon (GB) (½ to Awesome Maria) --> Good Magic
Distinta --> Into Mischief
Doll Collection (o/o Groupie Doll) --> Charlatan
Don't Leave Me --> Into Mischief
Empress Maker (o/o Ticker Tape) --> Unified
Enchanting Lady --> Charlatan
Evening Primrose (IRE) (full to Sizzling) --> Twirling Candy
Exotic Bloom (dam of Stopchargingmaria) --> Into Mischief
Expo Gold (dam of Swiss Skydiver) --> Into Mischief
Fair Maiden --> Into Mischief
Fifth Avenue Ball --> Authentic
Fun in the Desert (o/o Eye of the Sphynx, dam of Desert Ride) --> Charlatan
Danceinthesunlight (dam of Moreno) --> Maclean's Music
Dawn the Destroyer --> Curlin
Delightful Joy --> Into Mischief
Devil By Design --> Into Mischief
Discreet Moon (GB) (½ to Awesome Maria) --> Good Magic
Distinta --> Into Mischief
Doll Collection (o/o Groupie Doll) --> Charlatan
Don't Leave Me --> Into Mischief
Empress Maker (o/o Ticker Tape) --> Unified
Enchanting Lady --> Charlatan
Evening Primrose (IRE) (full to Sizzling) --> Twirling Candy
Exotic Bloom (dam of Stopchargingmaria) --> Into Mischief
Expo Gold (dam of Swiss Skydiver) --> Into Mischief
Fair Maiden --> Into Mischief
Fifth Avenue Ball --> Authentic
Fun in the Desert (o/o Eye of the Sphynx, dam of Desert Ride) --> Charlatan
- mariasmon
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Gabriellestoblame (½ to Nyquist) --> Charlatan
Glinda the Good --> Into Mischief
Hail (½ to Close Hatches) --> Into Mischief
Heart Stealer --> Into Mischief
Holy Place (½ to Lady Eli) --> Charlatan
I O Ireland --> Temple City
Innovative Idea --> Curlin
Ithinkisawapudycat (dam of Sweet Loretta) --> Curlin
Joe'sgoldenholiday (3/4 to Goldencents) --> Violence
Just Jenda --> Yaupon
Kid Majic (full to JP's Gusto, dam of Miss Mischief) --> Mendelssohn
Lady Serena (½ to Honor Code) --> Charlatan
Life's Blessings (o/o Indian Blessing) --> Charlatan
Long View (IRE) (½ to Golan, etc.) --> Maclean's Music
Lucy N Ethel --> Into Mischief
Glinda the Good --> Into Mischief
Hail (½ to Close Hatches) --> Into Mischief
Heart Stealer --> Into Mischief
Holy Place (½ to Lady Eli) --> Charlatan
I O Ireland --> Temple City
Innovative Idea --> Curlin
Ithinkisawapudycat (dam of Sweet Loretta) --> Curlin
Joe'sgoldenholiday (3/4 to Goldencents) --> Violence
Just Jenda --> Yaupon
Kid Majic (full to JP's Gusto, dam of Miss Mischief) --> Mendelssohn
Lady Serena (½ to Honor Code) --> Charlatan
Life's Blessings (o/o Indian Blessing) --> Charlatan
Long View (IRE) (½ to Golan, etc.) --> Maclean's Music
Lucy N Ethel --> Into Mischief
- brunanas
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tbf if Tiz had entered stud earlier than he did he'd probably have gotten more mares and a drop this year. also like someone said not all reports are out yet so some of them might see a rise on the numbers shown rnBaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:51 am The only stallion on your list who had more mares this year was Tiz the Law. Everyone else dropped quite a bit.
An early judgment on their success as sires? Or a statement on the state of the economy?
i like plushies. a lot.
- brunanas
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i don't think it will change too much though. most of them will still have dropped to some extent, that if their numbers change at allMiss Woodford wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:11 amNot all mares have reported yet. Wait for the official Jockey Club Report of Mares BredBaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:51 am The only stallion on your list who had more mares this year was Tiz the Law. Everyone else dropped quite a bit.
An early judgment on their success as sires? Or a statement on the state of the economy?
i like plushies. a lot.
- StellarWind
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Pragmatic Princess (1/2 to G2P Bluegrass Princess)----> Vino Rosso
Trainingat the Bar (dam of MSW Alittlelesstalk) ----> Omaha Beach
She's So Cali (1/2 to G2W Shotski) -----> Violence
Lady Chesley (family of Pure Profit) -----> Tonalist
Heartofchrome -----> Maximus Mischief
Seeking the Blue (dam of G3P Janis Joplin) -----> Ghostzapper
Dessert (G1W, 1/2 to G1W Johar) ----> Balance the Books
Breeze Show (1/2 to G2W Balance the Books) -----> Cloud Computing
Jeweled Princess (SW) -----> Candy Ride (ARG)
Trainingat the Bar (dam of MSW Alittlelesstalk) ----> Omaha Beach
She's So Cali (1/2 to G2W Shotski) -----> Violence
Lady Chesley (family of Pure Profit) -----> Tonalist
Heartofchrome -----> Maximus Mischief
Seeking the Blue (dam of G3P Janis Joplin) -----> Ghostzapper
Dessert (G1W, 1/2 to G1W Johar) ----> Balance the Books
Breeze Show (1/2 to G2W Balance the Books) -----> Cloud Computing
Jeweled Princess (SW) -----> Candy Ride (ARG)
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- Flanders
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Its just how it is. The vast majority of stallions will have their first crop be their biggest crop of foals, until they prove they deserve to be bred to more mares. Its uncommon for a stallion to get more mares bred in his 2nd to 4th year at stud.BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:51 am The only stallion on your list who had more mares this year was Tiz the Law. Everyone else dropped quite a bit.
An early judgment on their success as sires? Or a statement on the state of the economy?