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Slewfan2 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:39 am

Seeing the names like that, it’s even worse...it’s annoying how he puts zero effort into naming his horses. Honestly, I just can’t like him ....

At some point, he’s going to have to breed to different sires due to gross inbreeding possibilities ...and also, because maybe he’d have better luck. I feel sorry in a way for these mares - they’re not given real shots at success
Agree with the inbreeding issue.

He names his horses the way he does so he can look at the name and know the sire and dam. Annoying, maybe, but he's definitely stuck with his game plan.
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Flanders wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:28 amAlso I don't personally like that Mine's Perfect and Perfect Mine (Mineshaft - Perfect Forever, by Perfect Soul) went to Seeking the Soul (Perfect Soul - Seeking The Title, by Seeking The Gold) because of the 2x3 inbreeding.
I didn't think about that aspect of it, but you're right. It's closer on the inbreeding than I like to see, that's for sure.
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Slewfan2 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:56 am
Flanders wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:28 am
mariasmon wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:06 am

When I look at his names, I think, "There's a man who made a plan and is fully committed to it." :lol:

Looks like Creme Caramel was sold as a yearling, so she got a normal name. When I check for names of his 2YOs each year, I can usually tell right off from just the name if it's one he sold. Essentially, if the horse was given a good or normal name, he no longer owns it. He sent some 2YOs to Dubai, though, and they didn't get named at the same time he named the ones who stayed in North America, so that threw me a bit.

It also seems that he tends to keep the offspring of certain mares, as he's hung onto everything from Lemons Forever, Unbridled Forever and Forever Unbridled. Perfect Forever has gone through the ring 3 times and RNAd each time, so he must not want to sell her that badly. But he's sold some of her offspring. He does have her 2 Mineshaft daughers (Mine's Perfect and Perfect Mine :roll: ), both of whom visited Seeking the Soul last year.
I don't get why he never tried Lemons Forever with another Unbridled line stallion. She clearly did well with UBS, as that is her only 2 foals that are really of note. Forever d'Oro finished 3rd in a stakes at 3 but nothing else of note. She hasn't crossed well with the Sadler's Wells line, its been done the majority of her breeding career.

Also I don't personally like that Mine's Perfect and Perfect Mine (Mineshaft - Perfect Forever, by Perfect Soul) went to Seeking the Soul (Perfect Soul - Seeking The Title, by Seeking The Gold) because of the 2x3 inbreeding. There aren't many "normal" names for the resulting foals as Seeking The Title was bred to Perfect Soul so many times that pretty much all the name combos he has already used.
For the Mineshaft mares, I like Absolution, Lost Lemon Mine (a “real” Canadian legend), Lost Dutchman Mine (another legend - Arizona), ...but I’m sure we’ll get 🙄 Forever Mine, Mine Forever, Shaft Soul, Seeking Shaft, etc..
I don't know if Seeking Shaft would get an okay from the Jockey Club. :lol:
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Flanders wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:23 pm
Slewfan2 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:56 am
Flanders wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:28 am
I don't get why he never tried Lemons Forever with another Unbridled line stallion. She clearly did well with UBS, as that is her only 2 foals that are really of note. Forever d'Oro finished 3rd in a stakes at 3 but nothing else of note. She hasn't crossed well with the Sadler's Wells line, its been done the majority of her breeding career.

Also I don't personally like that Mine's Perfect and Perfect Mine (Mineshaft - Perfect Forever, by Perfect Soul) went to Seeking the Soul (Perfect Soul - Seeking The Title, by Seeking The Gold) because of the 2x3 inbreeding. There aren't many "normal" names for the resulting foals as Seeking The Title was bred to Perfect Soul so many times that pretty much all the name combos he has already used.
For the Mineshaft mares, I like Absolution, Lost Lemon Mine (a “real” Canadian legend), Lost Dutchman Mine (another legend - Arizona), ...but I’m sure we’ll get 🙄 Forever Mine, Mine Forever, Shaft Soul, Seeking Shaft, etc..
I don't know if Seeking Shaft would get an okay from the Jockey Club. :lol:
Ha, maybe not, but they approved Isitingood and several other suggestive names...you never know, 😂😂😂
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starrydreamer wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:55 am
Slewfan2 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:39 am

Seeing the names like that, it’s even worse...it’s annoying how he puts zero effort into naming his horses. Honestly, I just can’t like him ....

At some point, he’s going to have to breed to different sires due to gross inbreeding possibilities ...and also, because maybe he’d have better luck. I feel sorry in a way for these mares - they’re not given real shots at success
Agree with the inbreeding issue.

He names his horses the way he does so he can look at the name and know the sire and dam. Annoying, maybe, but he's definitely stuck with his game plan.
Why doesn’t he just keep a spreadsheet ? 😂😂

The man is committed, there’s no doubt !
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Military Order c Frankel x Anna Salai (Dubawi). Full to Derby/King George winner Adayar.
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All by Dubawi (IRE):

Feud (GB) c x Agnes Stewart (IRE)
Alamiya (IRE) f x Almela (IRE)
Lenormand (GB) c x Baisse (GB)
Fair Rosamund (IRE) f x Beautiful Romance (GB)
Changing Colours (GB) c x Blossomtime (GB)
Victory Dance (IRE) c x Dane Street (USA)
Gillingham (GB) c x Darkova (USA)
Fairy Cross (IRE) f x Devonshire (IRE)
Cruella de Vil (IRE) f x Hoity Toity (GB)
Reasonable (GB) f x In Clover (GB)
Karriewhitchit (GB) f x Kailani (GB)
Resolute Man (GB) c x Lady Momoka (IRE)
Striking Star (GB) c x Lucida (IRE)
Espionne (GB) f x Lunar Vega (IRE)
Lion City (IRE) c x Marigold Hotel (IRE)
Fifth Harmonic (FR) f x Peace in Motion (USA)
Local Dynasty (IRE) c x Really Special (GB)
Regal Honour (IRE) c x Serena's Storm (IRE)
Youngest (GB) f x Sheikha Reika (FR)
Courageous Knight (GB) c x Spring Mist (GB)
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mariasmon wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:07 pm
Thutmose - c. War Front x Queen Nefertiti (IRE)
Soooo.... LONG shot, but does anyone know what happened to her 4 yr old colt, War Monarch?
Unraced, papers stamped retired from racing.
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Federated - c. War Front x Indy Punch - full to Tensas Punch, half to Harlan Punch
Pret a Toucher - f. War Front x Tocco d'Amore (IRE)
Seal Team (GB) - c. War Front x Mrs McDougal
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Moonstrike (GB) - c. Zoustar x Wind Fire
Stars On Fire (IRE) - f. Zoustar x Out of The Flames (GB)
Starstriker (GB) - f. Zoustar x Lightening Quick (GB)

These 3 are all in the US with Wesley Ward, although Starstriker is the only one with posted workouts.
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^^^^Looks like Qatar Racing really wants a Royal Ascot winner.


They are also having a naming contest for one of Roaring Lion's foals

https://twitter.com/Qatar_Racing/status ... 0012376065
weeeeeeeee
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Governor of India (GB) - c. Dubawi (IRE) x Star of Seville (GB)
Outfoxed (IRE) - c. Dubawi (IRE) x Urban Fox (GB)
Tamaluk (IRE) - f. Dubawi (IRE) x Mutebah (IRE)
Turquoise Diamond (GB) - f. Dubawi (IRE) x Besharah (IRE)
Vandeek (GB) - c. Dubawi (IRE) x Golden Valentine (FR)
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Zarkala(FR) - f. Frankel(GB) x Zarkava(IRE)
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Captain Jack c. McCraken x Great Family
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Eternal Silence - f. War Front x Princess Highway
Freewheeling - c. War Front x Fresh Feline
Minuit a Paris - f. War Front x Exotic Notion (dam is half to City of Light)
Nakoa - f. War Front x Liscanna (IRE) (full to Hit it a Bomb, Brave Anna)
War Frontier - c. War Front x Agreeable Miss (half to Top Brass)
Worlds Collide - c. War Front x Elizabeth Browning (IRE) (dam is full to Johannes Vermeer)
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Tivy - c. Into Mischief x Jellicle Song (2nd dam is Precious Kitten)

I'm not sure what's going on with this one. He was an out at OBS (after the breeze show) and an out at the FT Gulfstream Sale. He now has 2 works at Keeneland in Equibase.
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Tue May 03, 2022 8:44 pm

Sorry if it's a repeat, but I don't recall seeing her name before now.

Froshado - f. Frosted x Ashado.
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