Stallion News

[Mylute]

Immensely upsetting.

[Flanders]

The Last Lion, winner of the 2016 G1 Middle Park who retired at 3 to stand at Darley, then Hedgeholme Stud, before fertility issues saw him return to training in 2021, has died after fracturing a hind pastern in a 6f Handicap at Kempton.

Probably couldve done better by an 8 year old former G1 winner who was off the track for 5 years

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... ion/546388

Its absolutely disgusting.

#1 - no horse that has been away from the track for 5 years should even be allowed to race. I would say even 2 years is too long.
#2 - imo, once a horse is used for breeding it shouldn't be allowed to race again. There have been so many incidents of a horse returned to training after being subfertile/infertile or just unpopular and almost all of them end badly for the horse. Everyone needs to do better for them by changing the rules.

[BaroqueAgain1]

I don't know that it's the breeding itself that causes problems; IMHO it's the time off from the rigorous training that keeps the horse's bones/tendons/muscles racing fit. After five years, getting his body back to racing fit/safe may not be possible.
I feel sorry for The Last Lion.

[Izvestia]

The Last Lion, winner of the 2016 G1 Middle Park who retired at 3 to stand at Darley, then Hedgeholme Stud, before fertility issues saw him return to training in 2021, has died after fracturing a hind pastern in a 6f Handicap at Kempton.

Probably couldve done better by an 8 year old former G1 winner who was off the track for 5 years

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... ion/546388

Its absolutely disgusting.

#1 - no horse that has been away from the track for 5 years should even be allowed to race. I would say even 2 years is too long.
#2 - imo, once a horse is used for breeding it shouldn't be allowed to race again. There have been so many incidents of a horse returned to training after being subfertile/infertile or just unpopular and almost all of them end badly for the horse. Everyone needs to do better for them by changing the rules.

How many times does this need to happen before it stops? Why? He deserved more than this.

[Slewfan2]

The Last Lion, winner of the 2016 G1 Middle Park who retired at 3 to stand at Darley, then Hedgeholme Stud, before fertility issues saw him return to training in 2021, has died after fracturing a hind pastern in a 6f Handicap at Kempton.

Probably couldve done better by an 8 year old former G1 winner who was off the track for 5 years

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... ion/546388

Its absolutely disgusting.

#1 - no horse that has been away from the track for 5 years should even be allowed to race. I would say even 2 years is too long.
#2 - imo, once a horse is used for breeding it shouldn't be allowed to race again. There have been so many incidents of a horse returned to training after being subfertile/infertile or just unpopular and almost all of them end badly for the horse. Everyone needs to do better for them by changing the rules.

How many times does this need to happen before it stops? Why? He deserved more than this.

This is so heartbreaking...poor boy. To many racing people, horses are just commodities with which to try and make money off of. Not nearly the majority, but way, way too many.

[TapitsGal]

How is justify 13 already?

[TapitsGal]

The Last Lion, winner of the 2016 G1 Middle Park who retired at 3 to stand at Darley, then Hedgeholme Stud, before fertility issues saw him return to training in 2021, has died after fracturing a hind pastern in a 6f Handicap at Kempton.

Probably couldve done better by an 8 year old former G1 winner who was off the track for 5 years

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ ... ion/546388

Geeze this gives me real George Washington vibes and it's awful

[ThreeMustangs]

How is justify 13 already?

He’s not. He was born in 2015, so he’s 7.

[Mylute]

Every time I cringe at the US breeding industry I remember that horses retiring to stud who only really ran at 2 is far more commonplace down under.
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... lia/546867

[Northport]

Every time I cringe at the US breeding industry I remember that horses retiring to stud who only really ran at 2 is far more commonplace down under.
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... lia/546867

I like how they specify that his injury was sustained from a walker accident, rather than a conformation flaw. It'll be interesting to see how well supported he is, because you know Coolmore won't be sending any of their own mares to him.

Australian racing does a lot of things right, but they definitely are lightning fast on retiring their 2 and 3 year old colts once they get a couple group wins or a single G1 win... or in the case of Acrobat, a single win that happened to be very fast.

While the prizemoney down there is excellent, they have far too many group races in my opinion. It's fun in the Spring and Autumn Carnivals to see top horses (usually the mares and geldings) racing in two or three G1s over the course of four or five weeks, but when there are sooo many group races, you get a decent colt having a really good day to win his G1, then poof he's off to the breeding shed.

[SukiSatsuki]

Every time I cringe at the US breeding industry I remember that horses retiring to stud who only really ran at 2 is far more commonplace down under.
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... lia/546867

I like how they specify that his injury was sustained from a walker accident, rather than a conformation flaw. It'll be interesting to see how well supported he is, because you know Coolmore won't be sending any of their own mares to him.

Australian racing does a lot of things right, but they definitely are lightning fast on retiring their 2 and 3 year old colts once they get a couple group wins or a single G1 win... or in the case of Acrobat, a single win that happened to be very fast.

While the prizemoney down there is excellent, they have far too many group races in my opinion. It's fun in the Spring and Autumn Carnivals to see top horses (usually the mares and geldings) racing in two or three G1s over the course of four or five weeks, but when there are sooo many group races, you get a decent colt having a really good day to win his G1, then poof he's off to the breeding shed.

Stallions who retire after one start should automatically be gelded theyre not needed or wanted in the shed

[Palace Malice]

Race Day has two good contenders for the derby. Another stallion sold too soon to Korea...

[SukiSatsuki]

Race Day has two good contenders for the derby. Another stallion sold too soon to Korea...

its spendthrist theyre a terrible farm

[brunanas]

Race Day has two good contenders for the derby. Another stallion sold too soon to Korea...

its spendthrist theyre a terrible farm

my biggest issue with them is how overbred their studs are. and it's obvious they don't have all that 'drive' naturally. breeding + medications must do wonders to their hearts

[Retrospectiv]

Race Day has two good contenders for the derby. Another stallion sold too soon to Korea...

its spendthrist theyre a terrible farm

my biggest issue with them is how overbred their studs are. and it's obvious they don't have all that 'drive' naturally. breeding + medications must do wonders to their hearts

And they will cover absolutely anything for the stud fee.
Saw a post last week with a breeder with a coloured TB mare who was booked into Goldencents. She was unraced, from a whole family of unraced and/or raced but non winners or single race maiden winners. Zero pedigree basically. And he's not even on the bottom ladder of their cheapest sires. Imagine what they'd breed to them

[brunanas]

its spendthrist theyre a terrible farm

my biggest issue with them is how overbred their studs are. and it's obvious they don't have all that 'drive' naturally. breeding + medications must do wonders to their hearts

And they will cover absolutely anything for the stud fee.
Saw a post last week with a breeder with a coloured TB mare who was booked into Goldencents. She was unraced, from a whole family of unraced and/or raced but non winners or single race maiden winners. Zero pedigree basically. And he's not even on the bottom ladder of their cheapest sires. Imagine what they'd breed to them

do you remember who the breeder was?
and they'd probably breed a mule to their stallions if you paid enough

[PersonalE]

Race Day has two good contenders for the derby. Another stallion sold too soon to Korea...

I’m sure there are talks for bringing back Race Day. Did that for Take Charge Indy but his subsequent runners afterwards hasn’t been so successful thus far.

[Retrospectiv]

my biggest issue with them is how overbred their studs are. and it's obvious they don't have all that 'drive' naturally. breeding + medications must do wonders to their hearts

And they will cover absolutely anything for the stud fee.
Saw a post last week with a breeder with a coloured TB mare who was booked into Goldencents. She was unraced, from a whole family of unraced and/or raced but non winners or single race maiden winners. Zero pedigree basically. And he's not even on the bottom ladder of their cheapest sires. Imagine what they'd breed to them

do you remember who the breeder was?
and they'd probably breed a mule to their stallions if you paid enough

No, the post seems to be gone now. They were looking for boarding recommendations while the mare was in KY. I believe she purchased her from an online auction last year
https://www.pedigreequery.com/seattle+fire3

[Flanders]

my biggest issue with them is how overbred their studs are. and it's obvious they don't have all that 'drive' naturally. breeding + medications must do wonders to their hearts

And they will cover absolutely anything for the stud fee.
Saw a post last week with a breeder with a coloured TB mare who was booked into Goldencents. She was unraced, from a whole family of unraced and/or raced but non winners or single race maiden winners. Zero pedigree basically. And he's not even on the bottom ladder of their cheapest sires. Imagine what they'd breed to them

do you remember who the breeder was?
and they'd probably breed a mule to their stallions if you paid enough

They wouldn't live cover but they already sell collected semen to other breeds. I saw a pic of a foal by Into Mischief out of a QH Mare earlier this year.

[BaroqueAgain1]

That isn't something new. IIRC, there were a few Storm Cat QH offspring.