horses with unique coloring/facial markings

Flanders · Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:24 pm

I don't have any clue who it was but during the Eclipse Awards tonight(the owner/breeder portion), when they went to Calumet, they had a palomino in the barn that looked like a Thoroughbred.

Retrospectiv · Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:16 pm

Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:24 pm I don't have any clue who it was but during the Eclipse Awards tonight(the owner/breeder portion), when they went to Calumet, they had a palomino in the barn that looked like a Thoroughbred.

Why would it not be? There's tons of dilute TBs out there and they did foray into colour breeding standing one of the frame line stallions (Risque Remarque)

Mylute · Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:40 pm

Sometimes quarter horses can look more like thoroughbreds (especially the racing ones). Maybe he could be a teaser?

Flanders · Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:50 am

Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:16 pm
Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:24 pm I don't have any clue who it was but during the Eclipse Awards tonight(the owner/breeder portion), when they went to Calumet, they had a palomino in the barn that looked like a Thoroughbred.
Why would it not be? There's tons of dilute TBs out there and they did foray into colour breeding standing one of the frame line stallions (Risque Remarque)

Well you'd think when they have hundreds of horses they wouldn't want to show off their weird foray into breeding for color. Cause it is weird for a farm with that history to start breeding nicely bred mares to color stallions for the hell of it.

Retrospectiv · Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:36 am

Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:50 am
Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:16 pm
Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:24 pm I don't have any clue who it was but during the Eclipse Awards tonight(the owner/breeder portion), when they went to Calumet, they had a palomino in the barn that looked like a Thoroughbred.
Why would it not be? There's tons of dilute TBs out there and they did foray into colour breeding standing one of the frame line stallions (Risque Remarque)
Well you'd think when they have hundreds of horses they wouldn't want to show off their weird foray into breeding for color. Cause it is weird for a farm with that history to start breeding nicely bred mares to color stallions for the hell of it.

Why is it weird? A farm can produce race horses, and pleasure/show horses on the side if they wish. They're still all registered TBs. And just because the name is Calumet, there's no relation of the current owner to the past history. No one is even sure if Risque Remarque is still there so not sure why you'd be upset about what they may or not be breeding to him. I can't imagine anyone being so upset by seeing one palomino in a barn.

Flanders · Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:31 am

Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:36 am
Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:50 am
Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:16 pm

Why would it not be? There's tons of dilute TBs out there and they did foray into colour breeding standing one of the frame line stallions (Risque Remarque)
Well you'd think when they have hundreds of horses they wouldn't want to show off their weird foray into breeding for color. Cause it is weird for a farm with that history to start breeding nicely bred mares to color stallions for the hell of it.
Why is it weird? A farm can produce race horses, and pleasure/show horses on the side if they wish. They're still all registered TBs. And just because the name is Calumet, there's no relation of the current owner to the past history. No one is even sure if Risque Remarque is still there so not sure why you'd be upset about what they may or not be breeding to him. I can't imagine anyone being so upset by seeing one palomino in a barn.

I'm not upset. But that is the thing, they weren't breeding him to make sporthorses. They were breeding him to try and make colorful racehorses. If they were trying to breed sporthorses I'd be okay with it. I hate when people breed horses just to get color.

Retrospectiv · Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:08 pm

Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:31 am
Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:36 am
Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:50 am

Well you'd think when they have hundreds of horses they wouldn't want to show off their weird foray into breeding for color. Cause it is weird for a farm with that history to start breeding nicely bred mares to color stallions for the hell of it.
Why is it weird? A farm can produce race horses, and pleasure/show horses on the side if they wish. They're still all registered TBs. And just because the name is Calumet, there's no relation of the current owner to the past history. No one is even sure if Risque Remarque is still there so not sure why you'd be upset about what they may or not be breeding to him. I can't imagine anyone being so upset by seeing one palomino in a barn.
I'm not upset. But that is the thing, they weren't breeding him to make sporthorses. They were breeding him to try and make colorful racehorses. If they were trying to breed sporthorses I'd be okay with it. I hate when people breed horses just to get color.

So what if he was trying to produce some overo TB race horses. His mares, his stallion. As long as they're not backyard trainwrecks, I don't have an issue breeding additionally for colour. And like it or not, most coloured TBs have a better chance attracting a home for pleasure or sport after their racing career. He wasn't breeding hundreds of coloured foals, and then dumping them in the sales so as a side hobby, power to him.

Mylute · Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:34 pm

Speightstown Gal (Cairo Prince) is a very unique gray.
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/m ... lane-farm/

Missbeholder · Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:17 am

Mylute wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:34 pm Speightstown Gal (Cairo Prince) is a very unique gray.
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/m ... lane-farm/

I found this picture of Liam's Map who's grey coat is quite similar to this girl's. I was at first thinking that Unbridled's Song had a coat color like it (before he turned white), but I was apparently thinking of his son, Liam's Map.

https://images.app.goo.gl/GbQ9JVgRhv2YLTv16

I don't know when this picture was taken, so Liam's Map might be considerably lighter now.

starrydreamer · Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:48 am

Mylute wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:34 pm Speightstown Gal (Cairo Prince) is a very unique gray.
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/m ... lane-farm/

She's not too unique. I've seen plenty of greys that dapple out that way - one of my favorite horses to ride looked like that when he was younger. She's young - as she ages, she'll grey out in the same way as her sire.

Diver52 · Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:34 pm

It may not be terribly unusual, but it's certainly a striking pattern. Very attractive!

starrydreamer · Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:12 am

Diver52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:34 pm It may not be terribly unusual, but it's certainly a striking pattern. Very attractive!

Definitely striking. Love to see it on a horse.

brunanas · Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:12 am

Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:36 am
Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:50 am
Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:16 pm

Why would it not be? There's tons of dilute TBs out there and they did foray into colour breeding standing one of the frame line stallions (Risque Remarque)
Well you'd think when they have hundreds of horses they wouldn't want to show off their weird foray into breeding for color. Cause it is weird for a farm with that history to start breeding nicely bred mares to color stallions for the hell of it.
Why is it weird? A farm can produce race horses, and pleasure/show horses on the side if they wish. They're still all registered TBs. And just because the name is Calumet, there's no relation of the current owner to the past history. No one is even sure if Risque Remarque is still there so not sure why you'd be upset about what they may or not be breeding to him. I can't imagine anyone being so upset by seeing one palomino in a barn.

Risque Remarque apparently had moved to a sporthorse farm a few years (?) ago and it seems like he died last year.

RugbyGirl · Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:28 am

Mylute wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:12 pm Interesting!

Do you have any updates on The Opera House? Did she foal this year?

Her studbook page has now been updated. She missed for her 2021 foal and was bred to Circus Maximus for a 2022 foal

Retrospectiv · Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:30 pm

brunanas wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:12 am
Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:36 am
Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:50 am

Well you'd think when they have hundreds of horses they wouldn't want to show off their weird foray into breeding for color. Cause it is weird for a farm with that history to start breeding nicely bred mares to color stallions for the hell of it.
Why is it weird? A farm can produce race horses, and pleasure/show horses on the side if they wish. They're still all registered TBs. And just because the name is Calumet, there's no relation of the current owner to the past history. No one is even sure if Risque Remarque is still there so not sure why you'd be upset about what they may or not be breeding to him. I can't imagine anyone being so upset by seeing one palomino in a barn.
Risque Remarque apparently had moved to a sporthorse farm a few years (?) ago and it seems like he died last year.

I'm on a FB page for some of the coloured TBs, and what's funny is none of them seem to know where he, even those with offspring by him. I've seen no death report any where for him.

Flanders · Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:45 pm

Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:30 pm
brunanas wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:12 am
Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:36 am

Why is it weird? A farm can produce race horses, and pleasure/show horses on the side if they wish. They're still all registered TBs. And just because the name is Calumet, there's no relation of the current owner to the past history. No one is even sure if Risque Remarque is still there so not sure why you'd be upset about what they may or not be breeding to him. I can't imagine anyone being so upset by seeing one palomino in a barn.
Risque Remarque apparently had moved to a sporthorse farm a few years (?) ago and it seems like he died last year.
I'm on a FB page for some of the coloured TBs, and what's funny is none of them seem to know where he, even those with offspring by him. I've seen no death report any where for him.

The Inverted Y is who posted on Facebook that he died of an an aneurysm in 2021. They own quite a few foals by him and Calumet even let them breed to him while he was standing in Kentucky.

Retrospectiv · Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:30 pm

Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:45 pm
Retrospectiv wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:30 pm
brunanas wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:12 am

Risque Remarque apparently had moved to a sporthorse farm a few years (?) ago and it seems like he died last year.
I'm on a FB page for some of the coloured TBs, and what's funny is none of them seem to know where he, even those with offspring by him. I've seen no death report any where for him.
The Inverted Y is who posted on Facebook that he died of an an aneurysm in 2021. They own quite a few foals by him and Calumet even let them breed to him while he was standing in Kentucky.

Ya, that one's a ding bat and typical 'color breeder'. Loves to make claims about the genetics of her horses that are not true and blocks anyone who tries to explain anything to her

BaroqueAgain1 · Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:04 pm

I'm sorry if it's true Risque Remarque has died (or that he ended up with a 'dingbat' owner

). Maybe he wasn't a racehorse, but he was a handsome stallion. IIRC, he had the more 'uphill' build that fits sport horse use better than racing.

Gemini · Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:03 am

American Gentleman (American Pharoah x Makison [Mineshaft]) is chestnut with a large white patch on the inside of his left front leg. I have a poor quality screen shot of him but can't upload it.

brunanas · Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:22 am

2YO colt by Gormley o/o Catching Diamonds