Stallion News

[Nenikikamen23]

Any idea where Air Force Blue has ended up?

[Flanders]

Any idea where Air Force Blue has ended up?

Nope didn't even know they removed him from the Coolmore page. They had listed a 2022 stud fee for him, so it must have been a very recent sale. He doesn't have an open export at this time. But doesn't surprise me he was sold, he only got 35 mares in 2021.

[tachyon]

Shadai Stallion Station has announced stud fees for 2022 today.

Epiphaneia(JPN)(JPY 18,000,000) becomes the most expensive stallion at Shadai for 2022, followed by Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (15,000,000) and Kizuna(JPN)(12,000,000).
Drefong(USA)(7,000,000) sees a major increase for 2022 to tie with Maurice(JPN), Rey de Oro(JPN) and Saturnalia(JPN).
New stallion Poetic Flare(IRE) will stand for 6,000,000.
Fee for Contrail(JPN) is expected to be announced after his final run in the Japan Cup on Sunday.


Sire Name (Sire of Sire) : stud fee 2022 (in JPY) --- (stud fee 2021)
Admire Mars(JPN) (Daiwa Major) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway) : 6,000,000 (6,000,000)
Chrysoberyl(JPN) (Gold Allure) : 3,000,000 new
Contrail(JPN) (Deep Impact) : N/A new
Daiwa Major(JPN) (Sunday Silence) : Private
Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti) : 7,000,000 (3,000,000)
Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 18,000,000 (10,000,000)
Harbinger(GB) (Dansili) : 4,000,000 (4,000,000)
Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Kinshasa no Kiseki(AUS) (Fuji Kiseki) : N/A (2,500,000)
Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide) : 5,000,000 (3,000,000)
Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 12,000,000 (10,000,000)
Le Vent Se Leve(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 2,500,000 (1,500,000)
Logotype(JPN) (Lohengrin) : 800,000 (800,000)
Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 15,000,000 (15,000,000)
Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero) : 7,000,000 (8,000,000)
Mikki Isle(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 2,500,000 (2,500,000)
Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Nadal(USA) (Blame) : 4,000,000 (4,000,000)
New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry) : 2,500,000 (2,500,000)
Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold) : 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Poetic Flare(IRE) (Dawn Approach) : 6,000,000 new
Real Steel(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 3,000,000 (2,500,000)
Red Falx(JPN) (Swept Overboard) : 800,000 (800,000)
Rey de Oro(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 7,000,000 (6,000,000)
Rulership (King Kamehameha) : 3,000,000 (4,000,000)
Satono Aladdin(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 1,000,000 (1,000,000)
Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju) : 1,000,000 (1,500,000)
Satono Diamond(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 3,000,000 (3,000,000)
Saturnalia(JPN) (Lord Kanaloa) : 7,000,000 (6,000,000)
Siskin(USA) (First Defence) : 3,000,000 (3,500,000)
Suave Richard(JPN) (Heart's Cry) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)

https://shadai-ss.com/cms/wp-content/up ... 211124.pdf

Shadai has announced Contrail's stud fee today!!!

Sire Name (Sire of Sire) : stud fee 2022 (in JPY) --- (stud fee 2021)
Admire Mars(JPN) (Daiwa Major) : 2,500,000 (3,000,000)
Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway) : 6,000,000 (6,000,000)
Chrysoberyl(JPN) (Gold Allure) : 3,000,000 new
Contrail(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 12,000,000 new
Daiwa Major(JPN) (Sunday Silence) : Private
Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti) : 7,000,000 (3,000,000)
Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 18,000,000 (10,000,000)
Harbinger(GB) (Dansili) : 4,000,000 (4,000,000)
Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki) : 1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Kinshasa no Kiseki(AUS) (Fuji Kiseki) : N/A (2,500,000)
Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide) : 5,000,000 (3,000,000)
Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 12,000,000 (10,000,000)
Le Vent Se Leve(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) : 2,500,000 (1,500,000)
Logotype(JPN) (Lohengrin) : 800,000 (800,000)
Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 15,000,000 (15,000,000)
Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero) : 7,000,000 (8,000,000)
Mikki Isle(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 2,500,000 (2,500,000)
Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)
Nadal(USA) (Blame) : 4,000,000 (4,000,000)
New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry) : 2,500,000 (2,500,000)
Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold) : 3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Poetic Flare(IRE) (Dawn Approach) : 6,000,000 new
Real Steel(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 3,000,000 (2,500,000)
Red Falx(JPN) (Swept Overboard) : 800,000 (800,000)
Rey de Oro(JPN) (King Kamehameha) : 7,000,000 (6,000,000)
Rulership (King Kamehameha) : 3,000,000 (4,000,000)
Satono Aladdin(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 1,000,000 (1,000,000)
Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju) : 1,000,000 (1,500,000)
Satono Diamond(JPN) (Deep Impact) : 3,000,000 (3,000,000)
Saturnalia(JPN) (Lord Kanaloa) : 7,000,000 (6,000,000)
Siskin(USA) (First Defence) : 3,000,000 (3,500,000)
Suave Richard(JPN) (Heart's Cry) : 2,000,000 (2,000,000)

https://shadai-ss.com/cms/wp-content/up ... 211130.pdf <------------

Chrysoberyl, Drefong, Epiphaneia, Kitasan Black, Le Vent se Leve, Real Steel, Rey de Oro and Saturnalia have been quoted as ''book-full'' as of Nov 30th.

[Mylute]

Contrail's fee set at ¥12 million, which equates to just over $100K.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... t-for-2022

[Flanders]

Fortune Ticket, a full brother to Gun Runner, will stand at Anchor & Hope Farm in Maryland in 2022.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/f ... -maryland/

[Flanders]

Galawi (Dubawi - Galikova, by Galileo) will stand at Northview Stallion Station. His dam is a G1 winning 1/2 sister to Goldikova. He won his US debut in June but never raced again.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... on-station

[Nenikikamen23]

Uncle Chuck, held together by tape, is apparently entering stud in Florida. Not my first choice of stallion with that race record

[Mylute]

Uncle Chuck, held together by tape, is apparently entering stud in Florida. Not my first choice of stallion with that race record

All siblings are heald together with preschool glue

[Timely Writer]

Re: Uncle Chuck
Y'all glass half empty on him. His dam did make 18 starts, and 5 of 6 of her foals 3yo and over did made it to the track, including one with 27 starts. He's a big leggy horse who ended up with Baffert.

[Flanders]

Valor Farm in Texas has added two stallions for 2022.

G1pSw Shoplifted (Into Mischief - Shopit, by Yes It's True) - $5,000

winner Gold Double (Medaglia d'Oro - Fiftyshadesofgold, by My Golden Song) - $1,000

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -to-roster

[Flanders]

Re: Uncle Chuck
Y'all glass half empty on him. His dam did make 18 starts, and 5 of 6 of her foals 3yo and over did made it to the track, including one with 27 starts. He's a big leggy horse who ended up with Baffert.

Yeah and her foals are unsound. Sure the gelding has 34 starts but he had 5 starts before age 5, with massive breaks between the first and 2nd start (8 months) and 2nd and 3rd start(6 months). He then managed 3 starts pretty quickly and needed an additional nearly 6 months to make another start. That is unsound. Maybe his issues are figured out now but doesn't change the fact he was unsound through the beginning of his career.

Being with Baffert has nothing to do with Uncle Chuck being unsound. That's like saying it was Steve Asmussen's fault MacLean's Music made one start or it was Chad Brown's fault that Electric Forest raced 5 times. Its not any of their fault, its that the mare produces unsound foals. And sure they are sound enough to make it to the races but they aren't going to stay sound for very long, none of them have. Maybe they just need a lot of time but they aren't going to get it. The only one that did is the gelding and they aren't many left to race, her 2yo has started working out 3 different times and stopped on and she has a weanling filly. The mare died earlier this year.

[Timely Writer]

Re: Uncle Chuck
Y'all glass half empty on him. His dam did make 18 starts, and 5 of 6 of her foals 3yo and over did made it to the track, including one with 27 starts. He's a big leggy horse who ended up with Baffert.

Yeah and her foals are unsound. Sure the gelding has 34 starts but he had 5 starts before age 5, with massive breaks between the first and 2nd start (8 months) and 2nd and 3rd start(6 months). He then managed 3 starts pretty quickly and needed an additional nearly 6 months to make another start. That is unsound. Maybe his issues are figured out now but doesn't change the fact he was unsound through the beginning of his career.

Being with Baffert has nothing to do with Uncle Chuck being unsound. That's like saying it was Steve Asmussen's fault MacLean's Music made one start or it was Chad Brown's fault that Electric Forest raced 5 times. Its not any of their fault, its that the mare produces unsound foals. And sure they are sound enough to make it to the races but they aren't going to stay sound for very long, none of them have. Maybe they just need a lot of time but they aren't going to get it. The only one that did is the gelding and they aren't many left to race, her 2yo has started working out 3 different times and stopped on and she has a weanling filly. The mare died earlier this year.

Aw, just think you would have missed out on all those $50,000 stud fees on Macleans Music had you owned him...right?

[Nenikikamen23]

Good breeding, nice looking horse. But the last thing American racing needs is more unsound influence. Hopefully he proves me wrong and produces sound foals but it's not a good point in racing when studs with 5 or fewer starts due to unsoundness are regularly retired to stand because they have in-demand families or sires

[Flanders]

Re: Uncle Chuck
Y'all glass half empty on him. His dam did make 18 starts, and 5 of 6 of her foals 3yo and over did made it to the track, including one with 27 starts. He's a big leggy horse who ended up with Baffert.

Yeah and her foals are unsound. Sure the gelding has 34 starts but he had 5 starts before age 5, with massive breaks between the first and 2nd start (8 months) and 2nd and 3rd start(6 months). He then managed 3 starts pretty quickly and needed an additional nearly 6 months to make another start. That is unsound. Maybe his issues are figured out now but doesn't change the fact he was unsound through the beginning of his career.

Being with Baffert has nothing to do with Uncle Chuck being unsound. That's like saying it was Steve Asmussen's fault MacLean's Music made one start or it was Chad Brown's fault that Electric Forest raced 5 times. Its not any of their fault, its that the mare produces unsound foals. And sure they are sound enough to make it to the races but they aren't going to stay sound for very long, none of them have. Maybe they just need a lot of time but they aren't going to get it. The only one that did is the gelding and they aren't many left to race, her 2yo has started working out 3 different times and stopped on and she has a weanling filly. The mare died earlier this year.

Aw, just think you would have missed out on all those $50,000 stud fees on Macleans Music had you owned him...right?

None of that changes the fact that her foals are unsound. Breeders don't care, if they did, they wouldn't breed to most of the stallions that they breed to.

[sweettalk]

Yeah and her foals are unsound. Sure the gelding has 34 starts but he had 5 starts before age 5, with massive breaks between the first and 2nd start (8 months) and 2nd and 3rd start(6 months). He then managed 3 starts pretty quickly and needed an additional nearly 6 months to make another start. That is unsound. Maybe his issues are figured out now but doesn't change the fact he was unsound through the beginning of his career.

Being with Baffert has nothing to do with Uncle Chuck being unsound. That's like saying it was Steve Asmussen's fault MacLean's Music made one start or it was Chad Brown's fault that Electric Forest raced 5 times. Its not any of their fault, its that the mare produces unsound foals. And sure they are sound enough to make it to the races but they aren't going to stay sound for very long, none of them have. Maybe they just need a lot of time but they aren't going to get it. The only one that did is the gelding and they aren't many left to race, her 2yo has started working out 3 different times and stopped on and she has a weanling filly. The mare died earlier this year.

Aw, just think you would have missed out on all those $50,000 stud fees on Macleans Music had you owned him...right?

None of that changes the fact that her foals are unsound. Breeders don't care, if they did, they wouldn't breed to most of the stallions that they breed to.

hardcore on your side.
funny as i just brought this up to my dad re: Danzig. 3 starts, retired unsound... huuuge impact in the shed. however, he's an outlier. the odds of someone having a Danzig on their hands is slim, on the absolute best of days.
otherwise, both of zenyatta's sons would be in the shed and as big of a Z fan as i am (i even have a tattoo) i think gelding/retraining them was the right call.

[Flanders]

Aw, just think you would have missed out on all those $50,000 stud fees on Macleans Music had you owned him...right?

None of that changes the fact that her foals are unsound. Breeders don't care, if they did, they wouldn't breed to most of the stallions that they breed to.

hardcore on your side.
funny as i just brought this up to my dad re: Danzig. 3 starts, retired unsound... huuuge impact in the shed. however, he's an outlier. the odds of someone having a Danzig on their hands is slim, on the absolute best of days.
otherwise, both of zenyatta's sons would be in the shed and as big of a Z fan as i am (i even have a tattoo) i think gelding/retraining them was the right call.

I just think what I'm trying to say is coming across wrong. I wasn't one of the people condemning the fact that Uncle Chuck was going to stud, of course he is going to stud, the owners would be fools to not send him to stud given who his 1/2 brother is. I was just backing up the people that said Forest Music's foals were unsound, which they were.
There have been tons of horses that have gone to stud that their soundness could be highly questioned but if they were never given a chance then the thoroughbred world would look a lot different. Danzig was given a chance because he was so brilliant, he did have knee issues though and he did pass that on sometimes. Can you image the forum if a Kentucky farm advertised a new stallion that was undefeated in 3 starts, highest being an allowance win and starting out at $60,000 stud fee(2021 equivalent for the 20k Danzig started out at in 1981)? Ahhh that would be good times.

[sweettalk]

None of that changes the fact that her foals are unsound. Breeders don't care, if they did, they wouldn't breed to most of the stallions that they breed to.

hardcore on your side.
funny as i just brought this up to my dad re: Danzig. 3 starts, retired unsound... huuuge impact in the shed. however, he's an outlier. the odds of someone having a Danzig on their hands is slim, on the absolute best of days.
otherwise, both of zenyatta's sons would be in the shed and as big of a Z fan as i am (i even have a tattoo) i think gelding/retraining them was the right call.

I just think what I'm trying to say is coming across wrong. I wasn't one of the people condemning the fact that Uncle Chuck was going to stud, of course he is going to stud, the owners would be fools to not send him to stud given who his 1/2 brother is. I was just backing up the people that said Forest Music's foals were unsound, which they were.
There have been tons of horses that have gone to stud that their soundness could be highly questioned but if they were never given a chance then the thoroughbred world would look a lot different. Danzig was given a chance because he was so brilliant, he did have knee issues though and he did pass that on sometimes. Can you image the forum if a Kentucky farm advertised a new stallion that was undefeated in 3 starts, highest being an allowance win and starting out at $60,000 stud fee(2021 equivalent for the 20k Danzig started out at in 1981)? Ahhh that would be good times.

ah, yeah i get you a little better now. (they are, still agree there)
however... i almost kind of would love to see that second part i'd at least make us popcorn tho!

[Slewfan2]

Malibu Moon is also a great example of a horse who had a brief career and turned into a fantastic stallion...he ran twice; it broke my heart when he had to be retired.

[Mylute]

Dee Ex Bee (Farhh) has been retired to Arctic Tack Stud. Won two G3s and is multiple G1 and G2 placed from age 2 to 4. Family of Timber Country.
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... eer/525202

[Flanders]

Channel Cat - $7500
Hence - $5000
True Timer - $7500

Join the Calumet roster for 2022.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... rm-in-2022